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Ungovernable Misfits

Sick of being spied on, stolen from, and lied to?

Ungovernable Misfits aim to ignite a rebellious spark in every listener. 

We explore ways to regain privacy and freedom using Bitcoin and open source software.

Freedoms are not granted, they are taken and defended. 

We are rebels with a cause. 

Join us and become Ungovernable.

A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.

TO DONATE TO ROMAN'S DEFENSE FUND: https://freeromanstorm.com/donate

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https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ungovernablemisfits.com

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FOUNDATION

https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!

Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase

CAKE WALLET

https://cakewallet.com

Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.

Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.

Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.

Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.

Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!

Our Favorite Freedom Tech Apps | FREEDOM TECH FRIDAY 08

In this episode of The Bitcoin Brief, Max and Q delve into the latest happenings in the world of Bitcoin and privacy. 

AOB
 • Back after a 1 show hiatus
 • Freedom Tech Friday
 • Riga recap
Core • shipping
 • Prime 
video • from Zach

NEWS
Samourai devs take plea dealRoman storm found guilt of unlicensed money transmissionArk Labs runs mainnet test in RigaBlock launches modular Bitcoin minerGoogle gives the industry a scare
UPDATES/RELEASES
Envoy v2.0.2Passport v2.3.9Phoenix v2.6.4Zeus v0.11.3Cake v5.2.0Robosats v0.8.1 alphaBluewallet v7.2.0

IMPORTANT LINKS 

https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ungovernablemisfits.com

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FOUNDATION

https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!

Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase

CAKE WALLET

https://cakewallet.com

Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.

Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.

Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.

Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.

Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!

MYNYMBOX

https://mynymbox.io

Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.

Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

Robot Riga Report | THE BITCOIN BRIEF 63

Google Goes Rogue | FREEDOM TECH FRIDAY 07

In this episode, Jon recaps the heartwarming experiences at Lake Satoshi, an event that has become a beacon for the Meshtadel community in Michigan. Jon shares his recent visit to this unique gathering, highlighting the sense of camaraderie and community that permeates the event. Attendees from various parts of the world come together, not just to discuss Bitcoin, but to build lasting relationships and enjoy the great outdoors. The episode paints a vivid picture of the event's atmosphere, from the communal campfires to the entrepreneurial spirit of the children, and the heartfelt connections made among families.

IMPORTANT LINKS 

https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ungovernablemisfits.com

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- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!

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- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com
- DONATE via Paynym to JON @ https://paynym.rs/+idealpresident82
- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf
- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/

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(00:00:00) Lift Off

(00:02:26) Lake Satoshi Recap

(00:07:15) Meshtadhill | Lake Satoshi 2025

(00:12:35) Sealminer A2, Best Price! | ALTAIRTECH.IO

(00:16:46) Sound Coffee

(00:27:08) Children and Community Connections

(00:37:12) LateStage HUGS

(00:44:42) THANKS CHET | BOOSTS

(00:55:46) Reflections from Tammy/Debbie

Pure Michigan Meshtadel | PMM 15

Roman Storm Found Guilty | FREEDOM TECH FRIDAY 06

A monthly show where Max and Seth take a trip down memory lane to see what happened in the last 4 weeks of Monero.

What to know
 • Supposedly launching a 51% attack on August 2nd
 • Theoretically have shown the ability to deploy 
~30% of the network hashrate • for a 6h period, and only peaking at 20% over a 24h period as of July 28th
 • Founder has been doxxing Monero community members and slandering many others
 • Clearly a marketing ploy of a dying coin IMO, but a good test of Monero's PoW decentralization and resistance
 • Their goal, 
quote by Luke Parker:Fear-mongering and promoting a project which aims to remove Monero's decentralized block building, and appears to be the same as any other centralized mining pool (even if shares are submitted over some centralized network), don't contribute though. Don't get manipulated into it.What you can do
 • Mine Monero via p2pool to do your part securing Monero
https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1949842968673751330 • If the attack actually happens, be wary of accepting Monero without sufficient confirmations for goods and services
 • The more confirmations, the more hashrate required to re-org the chain and double spend
 • If running BTCPay, you can easily change the number of confirmations required in the "XMR Wallet" settings on the left side bar
Call out Selsta's tireless efforts
https://monero.observer/selsta-posts-monero-dev-report-june-2025/Software updates
Cake Wallet released v5.2.0
 • BIP 353 proof support for hardware wallets
 • Improved support for Cupcake
 • Monero and Bitcoin view-only support
 • Ledger for desktop
 • macOS and Windows
 • Automatic node switching
 • Minor Silent Payment enhancements and fixes
Cake Wallet released v5.1.0, 5.1.1, 5.1.2
 • Featuring
 • An all-new Cake Pay UI
 • Further Silent Payment fixes and enhancements
 • Built-in Tor support
 • Android-only for now
 • Much improved Ledger support
 • Payjoin improvements and bug fixes
https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/releasesMonero v0.18.4.1 released
https://monero.observer/monero-v0.18.4.1-fluorine-fermi-released/p2pool v4.9 released
 • Focused on reproducible builds
https://monero.observer/schernykh-releases-p2pool-v4.9-reproducible-builds/Eigenwallet v3.0.0-beta released
 • Previously known as UnstoppableSwap, recently rebranded
https://monero.observer/unstoppableswap-completes-eigenwallet-rebrand-3.0.0-beta-release/Cuprate v0.0.5 released
https://monero.observer/cuprated-v0.0.5-molybdenite-released/

IMPORTANT LINKS 

https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ungovernablemisfits.com

VALUE FOR VALUE

Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.

You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.

TIME:

- create fountain clips for the show
- create a meetup
- help boost the signal on social media

TALENT:

- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!

TREASURE:

- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com
- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf
- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/

FOUNDATION

https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!

Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase

CAKE WALLET

https://cakewallet.com

Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.

Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.

Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.

Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.

Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!

MYNYMBOX

https://mynymbox.io

Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.

Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

Monero Under Attack | MONERO MONTHLY 08

A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.

IMPORTANT LINKS 

https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ungovernablemisfits.com

VALUE FOR VALUE

Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.

You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.

TIME:

- create fountain clips for the show
- create a meetup
- help boost the signal on social media

TALENT:

- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!

TREASURE:

- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com
- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf
- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/

FOUNDATION

https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!

Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase

CAKE WALLET

https://cakewallet.com

Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.

Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.

Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.

Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.

Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!

Privacy Under Attack! | FREEDOM TECH FRIDAY 05

In this emergency episode of Ungovernable Misfits, we explore the potential cosmic and earthly threats that could impact our world. Return guest, Kerim, presents a theory that combines astrophysical phenomena with the current state of our planet, suggesting that we may be on the brink of a significant event. 

1 - Solar Maximum - The Sun is at the maximal peak of it's 11 year cycle, there is a confirmed increase in solar flare activity which suggests an increased risk of a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME).

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/solar-maximum-could-hit-us-harder-and-sooner-than-we-thought-how-dangerous-will-the-suns-chaotic-peak-be/

https://science.nasa.gov/science-research/heliophysics/nasa-noaa-sun-reaches-maximum-phase-in-11-year-solar-cycle/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/science/sun-cycles-solar-maximum-minimum-corona.html

2 - Earth's magnetic field is weakened - The magnetic field that sheilds us from solar plasma is at a low which leaves us more vulnerable to solar particle radiation and plasma discharges such as a CME.

https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/Swarm/Swarm_probes_weakening_of_Earth_s_magnetic_field

https://www.space.com/23131-earth-magnetic-field-shift-explained.html

https://www.sciencefocus.com/planet-earth/earth-magnetic-field

https://www.livescience.com/62577-earth-magnetic-field-drifts.html

3 - Local Nova activity & Energy storage - Two confirmed Nova are currently visible. V462 Lupi (in the constellation Lupus, the wolf, one Ptolomy's 48 constellations) and V572 Velorum (in the large constellation Argo Navis, a great ship shaped constellation) are both classic nova. These are binary star systems that undergo periodic explosions. Exploding stars pulse a direct current through the normally alternating current plasma system of the galaxy. 

Almost all astronomical bodies have alternating layers of conductive plasmas and insulating uncharged matter (Earth's layers include the Ionosphere, Plasmasphere, Magnetosheath, Magnetosphere and could include the oceans and or subterranean plasma layers) in this manner they can act as multilayered capacitors. 

When an Alternating Current (AC) is applied to a capacitor, it acts like a resistor in a DC circuits, dissipating energy and attenuating it's flow.

When a Direct Current (DC) is applied to a capacitor, it acts as a battery as electric potential difference builds between the conductive plasma layers. This stores energy in the system increasing the risk of plasma discharges such as a CME.

In short, the local Nova activity generates DC pulses into the local plasma system making bodies act as batteries instead of resistors increasing the energy potentials and the risk of a CME. 

https://www.iflscience.com/for-only-the-second-recorded-time-two-novae-are-visible-with-the-naked-eye-at-once-79824

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364682617303711

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B0122270908001445

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364682612000995

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-019-0819-7

4 - The Taurid meteor stream - The presence of a conductive material into the solar system (such as a comet stream made up of metallic meteor fragments) could mediate an electrical discharge by lowering the resistance of the system.

Meteors are largely comprised of Iron. The meteor stream could act as "Iron filings" sprinkled between highly charged conductive plates. This could trigger a plasma discharge (arc discharge, essentially lightning) or CME.

An even more dangerous scenario could see the discharge diverting one or more meteors from the stream towards Earth. This could be a beautiful display of shooting stars and Northern Lights or a Younger Dryas Level event.

We pass through the stream every June and November.

5 - Psychosocial Temperature - Pick any issue, any fucking issue. Epstein, JFK, 911, Macron's Husband, Mass migration, the Genocide of the Palestinians. The people in power are acting like they will never face accountability for their crimes. In fact they are behaving like they know everything is coming down and they've known about it for a while and are prepped, ready and taking advantage of teh situation like the parasites they are. There are rumours of a 21 Trillion dollar breakaway civilisation (Caroline Fitz solari.com). Underground structures and spaceships. Elon Musk is boring tunnels and he and Bezos are sending rockets to space. It certainly seems like the people who would know about this are acting exactly as you would expect them to if it were true.

The Sun will have dropped back to minimum activity levels by 2030. The greatest risk is over the next three months. If we make it past November then the immediate danger is over and we could have hundreds or even thousands of years before this level of risk is approached again.

FOUNDATION

https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!

Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase

CAKE WALLET

https://cakewallet.com

Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.

Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.

Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.

Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.

Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!

MYNYMBOX

https://mynymbox.io

Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.

Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

Ragnarök

We're Live! Kind Of? | FREEDOM TECH FRIDAY 04

In this episode of The Bitcoin Brief, Max and Q delve into the latest happenings in the world of Bitcoin and privacy. They discuss the current state of Bitcoin's value and the surprising low transaction fees despite its high price, reflecting on the implications for mass adoption and self-custody. They also explore the technical intricacies of Ashigaru's new Whirlpool implementation, addressing privacy concerns and the potential for malicious coordinators. The conversation touches on the importance of layered privacy and the role of tools like Monero swaps and Lightning channels in enhancing user security.

Max and Q highlight recent software updates, including the release of Envoy 2.0, Cake Wallet's new features, and the introduction of FrostSnap, a new consumer-ready product for Taproot multisig. The episode wraps up with a discussion on the benefits of multisig, the potential of Frost technology, and the ongoing developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Join us as we navigate the complexities of Bitcoin privacy, security, and innovation.

AOB
 • Freedom Tech Friday
 • Q heading on holiday Thursday
 • Live stream with Katie from CitizenX
 • Riga weekend after
 • Core starts shipping this week
NEWS
 • Roman Storm 
case • under way (see latest FTF)
Trump signs GENIUS Act into lawCLARITY act passes the houseMempool now shows sub 1 sat.vb feesAshigaru terminal critiques and responsesUPDATES/RELEASES
Envoy 2.0 main release • Ashigaru terminal coming to startOS 0.4
Cake Wallet v5.1.2Zeus 0.11.2 main releasePhoenix v2.6.2Electrum Desktop 4.6Bitcoin Keeper v2.5.0 (and 2.5.1)Frostsnap releaseBTC Sesstions quick tutorial on a no HWW multisig with Blue/Sparrow
IMPORTANT LINKS 

https://freesamourai.comhttps://p2prights.org/donate.htmlhttps://ungovernablemisfits.com

VALUE FOR VALUE

Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.

You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.

TIME:

- create fountain clips for the show
- create a meetup
- help boost the signal on social media

TALENT:

- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music
- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better
- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!

TREASURE:

- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ https://podcastapps.com
- DONATE via Monero @ https://xmrchat.com/ugmf
- BUY SOME STICKERS @ https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/

FOUNDATION

https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable

Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.

As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.

Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!

Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase

CAKE WALLET

https://cakewallet.com

Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.

Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.

Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.

Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.

Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!

MYNYMBOX

https://mynymbox.io

Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private & dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.

Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy & security, and human support.

Sub 1 Sat Summer | THE BITCOIN BRIEF 62

EP65 Bitcoin podcast with 21ism
 
Im joined by the rest of our 21ism crew.
 
@rebelmoneyart
 
@mtcbtc
 
@HodlerThanThou
 
@Mrcrownnnnn
 
@selfbankt
 
We celebrate Art as The State suppresses it. Freedom over fear. Each month we spin the ‘Creative Carousel’ to feature new Artists, inspired to create by the ultimate expression of liberty – Bitcoin. Art is a language through which it speaks.
 
Bitcoin is an idea whose time has come. The world is being repriced in ‘sats’. Its Truth Machine is a safe haven for storing value in uncertain futures. Sovereignty through mathematics. Rules not rulers.
 
I really enjoyed this conversation and I hope you enjoy listening. 
 
 
 
twitter - @twentyoneism
 
website -https://21ism.com 
 
 
 
As always please feel free to reach out and ask me any questions.
 
 
 
Twitter - @BitBuyBitPod

EP65 Bitcoin podcast with 21ism

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