From hypercars to cruise missiles: Lukas Czinger on the future of US defense | E2292

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Startups like Divergent Technologies are producing components and aircraft for the military through new systems that are better, faster, and cheaper than conventional methods. CEO and co-founder Lukas Czinger stops by TWiST to share the company’s vertically integrated, AI-driven manufacturing platform and how he transitioned from hypercar parts to working directly with the Pentagon on autonomous aircraft.

Plus, 50 million Americans are on antidepressants, and it’s not necessarily the right treatment for all of them. Outro Health co-founders Brandon Goode and Dr. Mark Horowitz share their hyperbolic tapering method, which helps patients get off drugs like Zoloft and Prozac without suffering through traumatic and potentially dangerous side effects.

Guests

Lukas Czinger: https://x.com/lukasczinger

Divergent Technologies: https://www.divergent3d.com

Czinger Vehicles: https://www.czinger.com/

Brandon Goode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodebrandon/

Dr. Mark Horowitz: https://x.com/markhoro

Outro Health: https://outro.com

Timestamps:

0:00 Divergent shifted from hypercar development to 3D printing all kinds of components

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4:10 How 3D printing has exponentially improved

8:18 Making military components faster, better, and cheaper

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11:00 How Divergent caught the Pentagon's attention

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25:29 Why Outro Health helps patients taper off SSRIs

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36:37 Is depression caused by a "chemical imbalance"?

46:37 Understanding the hyperbolic tapering method

58:32 How Outro makes money

1:10:01 Leaked Meta layoff audio

1:13:41 Cloudflare CEO drops "measurer" roles

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1:19:17 Why Trump canceled his AI executive order

1:28:08 Polymarket sharps on Russia vs. Ukraine, SpaceX ticker symbol

1:33:34 Luel vs. Kled update: Is this nepotism at work?

1:37:02 Chris Nolan doesn't have a smartphone

1:43:04 Jason's favorite new espresso machine

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