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The Verge

The Vergecast is the flagship daily podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And Monday through Thursday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

The Vergecast

For years, Rivian has looked like one of the most compelling electric vehicle companies in America — and maybe the car maker most equipped to take on Tesla. All that potential comes down to this: the R2, the long-awaited and more affordable car that Rivian hopes can make it truly mainstream. After a journey to the R2's factory earlier this year, The Verge's Andrew Hawkins explains what the R2 is, why it matters, and what happens to Rivian if it's a hit — or a flop.

Further reading:

 ⁠Range anxiety⁠

 ⁠The Rivian R2 is too much fun to let drive itself⁠

 ⁠Rivian surprises with R3 and R3X electric SUVs⁠

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Rivian’s last chance to take on Tesla

The Onion's takeover of conspiracy show InfoWars isn't officially complete — but comedian Tim Heidecker, who's serving as creative director, won't let that stop him from building out a slate of comedy programming. Before the new InfoWars launches July 2, The Verge's Mia Sato interviews Tim about what drew him to the project, how long he can (or wants to) maintain an Alex Jones parody, and whether it's worth doing an interview with The Verge when you've already done one with Wired.

Further reading:

 ⁠The Onion’s rebooted InfoWars is coming July 2nd⁠

 ⁠The Onion’s acquisition of Infowars was blocked by a judge⁠

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Meet The Onion's new and improved InfoWars

It's time for a new series on The Vergecast! (It still needs a name. Please help.) We're going to give Verge staffers a challenge, and regroup a few weeks later to see who did it best. We're starting with some vibe coding. The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes and Hayden Field share what they've made with AI that has actually stuck in their lives, before David gives the challenge: build a website to solve a problem in your life. The more ambitious and impressive the better. We'll be back with the results soon, and in the meantime, send us ideas for more challenges! (Also, names for the series. PLEASE.)

Further reading:

 ⁠Anthropic’s Mythos 5 is back | The Verge⁠

 ⁠Supreme Court allows firing of FTC commissioners, ends agency independence⁠

 ⁠Comcast is splitting in two | The Verge⁠

 ⁠WhatsApp is launching usernames: here’s how to reserve yours | The Verge⁠

 ⁠Welcome to the personal software revolution⁠

 ⁠I used Claude to vibe-code my wildly overcomplicated smart home⁠

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Our vibe coded projects that actually work

Meta's business is doing just fine. But Meta as a company, and Meta as a series of products? That is, uh, messier. David and Nilay discuss the company's ongoing desire to be relevant and cool, the unceasing importance of Instagram, and why it makes perfect sense that Facebook would clone Polymarket. After that, the hosts talk about Apple's huge price increases, and the ways in which RAMageddon might change the gadget market forever. Then it's time for Brendan Carr is a dummy, the latest on the movie Artificial, and the looming fight over AI data.

Further reading: 

 ⁠The Steam Machine is the most ambitious game console I’ve ever played ⁠

 ⁠Valve prices the Steam Machine at $1,049 ⁠

 ⁠How much would the Steam Machine cost to build? ⁠

 ⁠Valve describes just how brutal RAM negotiations are in 2026 ⁠

 ⁠The Steam Machine is the start of an even more expensive future for game consoles ⁠

 ⁠I drove the Slate Truck — there’s more to it than EV minimalism ⁠

 ⁠The Slate Auto pickup truck starts at $24,950 ⁠

 ⁠Meta pauses employee tracking tool after internal leak. ⁠

 ⁠Now Meta will track what employees do on their computers to train its AI agents ⁠

 ⁠Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth Admits the Company’s AI Reorg Was ‘Atrocious’ | WIRED⁠

 ⁠Zuckerberg reportedly wants a Polymarket clone — but without real money⁠

 ⁠Polymarket paid creators to post fake videos of themselves placing and winning bets. ⁠

 ⁠Meta plans to release AI-powered prediction market app⁠

 ⁠Facebook’s Creator Studio has been revived as an AI companion app⁠

 ⁠Kaleidescape’s Strato E player blows streaming, and your wallet, away ⁠

 ⁠Something’s off with Midjourney’s pivot to body scanners ⁠

 ⁠People Inc. CEO says it’s “probably” headed for a confrontation with Google over AI crawling.⁠

 ⁠ABC encourages viewers to back network amid FCC investigations⁠

 ⁠Bob Iger’s Disney wanted Apple, Twitter, and 007 ⁠

 ⁠The film about Sam Altman has been dropped by Amazon MGM ⁠

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:01:00 Cannes Cold Open

00:07:00 Coach x Spotify Absurdity

00:10:00 Vox Media PMX Shakeup

00:14:00 Meta Chaos vs Money

00:26:00 Gambling as Engagement

00:33:00 Ramageddon Hits Gadgets

00:44:00 Slate Truck Price

00:45:00 Range And Truck Feel

00:48:00 Tech Bloat Backlash

00:50:00 BYD Versus Tesla

00:56:00 FCC Targets The View

01:04:00 Amazon Drops Artificial

01:08:00 Kaleidescape Versus Blu Ray

01:13:00 Bob Iger Merger Rumors

01:17:00 Blocking AI Crawlers

01:22:00 Wrap Up And Next Week
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Of course Meta thinks gambling is the future

Training data is the raw material of the AI industry. Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and the rest are built on top of oceans of stuff. What is that stuff? Books. Blog posts. YouTube videos. Reddit comments. All of it and more, in virtually incomprehensible quantities. Alex Reisner, a staff writer at The Atlantic who has been investigating training data, explains how AI companies get all this data, why they'd really prefer you not know what's in it, and whether training data could ever be a fair trade.

Further reading:

 Apple raises prices on Macs, iPads, and more by hundreds of dollars | The Verge⁠

 ⁠Disney agrees to pay $50 million to YouTube TV and DirecTV subscribers | The Verge⁠

 Two handlebars are better than one, right? | The Verge⁠

 At Least 15 Million YouTube Videos Have Been Snatched by AI Companies⁠⁠

 ⁠⁠The Hypocrisy at the Heart of the AI Industry ⁠⁠

 ⁠⁠The Millions of Songs Mashed Into AI-Generated Music⁠⁠

 ⁠⁠Common Crawl Is Doing the AI Industry’s Dirty Work⁠⁠

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How to train your data

Google is shipping its first smart speaker in six years, and we're starting to test it. The Verge's Jennifer Pattison Tuohy joins the show to explain why the Home Speaker matters, whether Google actually cares about the smart home, and more. Then, she helps answer a few questions from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about the power of Ikea and the future of your thermostat.

Further reading:

 The Google Home Speaker sounds good and looks great — but it’s finicky

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Google's new speaker and your smart home questions

A huge portion of the tech industry has decided that smart glasses are the next big thing. But why? Smart glasses are incredibly hard to make, hugely socially complicated, and require users to want to wear a gadget on their face. The Verge's Victoria Song helps us figure out which features, if any, will make smart glasses worth all the trouble.

Further reading:

 All these smart glasses and nothing to do

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Why Big Tech can't quit smart glasses

Valve has been trying to crack the living room for more than a decade, and the new Steam Machine is its best attempt yet. It's a little bit PC, a little bit console, and a lot pricy — starting at $1,049, it had a lot to live up to. The Verge’s Sean Hollister has been testing the device, and shares his findings on whether the Steam Machine can hang with PlayStation and Xbox. He also explains why, despite a never-ending list of challenges, Valve is still trying to make this device work.

Further reading:

 ⁠The Steam Machine is the most ambitious game console I’ve ever played⁠

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Is the Steam Machine worth the wait?

The Harmony Universal Remote was supposed to be the only controller you needed for all the devices in your life. So what happened? David Pierce is joined by The Verge’s Nilay Patel and John Higgins, as well as Nest co-founder (and current Harmony user) Matt Rogers, to follow the Harmony's timeline from its origins as the "Easy Zapper," through Logitech's acquisition, all the way to its slow death at the hands of smart TVs. And their vastly inferior remotes.

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Version History: Harmony remote

The new smart glasses from Snap look like an impressive bit of technology, and some of the most advanced glasses we've seen. But Nilay and David start the show by wondering, does that matter if nobody wants to put them on? What would it take to overcome the ear-smashing? After that, they discuss the reasons for (and problems awaiting) Fox's acquisition of Roku, the latest updates from Matter, Facebook's wild AI Mode, and more.

Further reading:

 Snap is finally about to ship AR glasses — and they cost a fortune

 Snap Unveils Specs Smart Glasses at AWE 2026

 From CNBC: Snap CEO Evan Spiegel on new AR Specs: New opportunity to bring computing to the world around you

 Qualcomm’s latest chip hints that more powerful smart glasses could be on the way

 The Microsoft Surface Laptop 8 and Surface Pro 12 now come with Snapdragon X2 chips 

 Commodore’s Callback 8020 is a retro flip phone with modern ideals 

 Google’s first smart speaker in six years arrives next week

 Fox is buying Roku 

 Fox wants to take over your TV — and the tech inside it 

 Netflix was reportedly worried about antitrust scrutiny if it bought Roku instead of Fox.

 Fox is taking over Roku City 

 How Stephen Colbert’s Replacement Is Helping Tank the Rest of CBS

 Will Matter finally be able to do what it should have always done? | The Verge

 Thread Direct looks to solve Matter’s biggest setup headache | The Verge

 Half a billion people are using Threads every month 

 Facebook’s new AI Mode search gets its info from public posts 

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:01:00 Intro

00:02:00 Snap Specs revealed

00:06:00 Snap software advantage

00:08:00 Price comfort reality check

00:10:00 True AR breakthrough

00:15:00 Demos vs daily life

00:21:00 Privacy and moderation risks

00:27:00 Fox buys Roku why

00:29:00 Distribution is power

00:33:00 Roku neutrality ends

00:37:00 Roku Lock-In Debate

00:41:00 Piracy Exit Ramp

00:42:00 Tubi Meets Roku Channel

00:46:00 Go90 Scale Rankings

00:52:00 Distribution Matters CBS

00:57:00 Hype Desk Movies

01:03:00 Knicks Laptop Festival

01:06:00 Brendan Carr Is A Dummy

01:10:00 Radio Ownership Waivers

01:12:00 Threads User Numbers

01:16:00 Meta AI Mode Risks

01:19:00 Matter Joint Fabric

01:28:00 Wrap Up and Plugs
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Snap's Specs look good on nobody

Your headphones' microphone matters. A lot. And yet we never know how we sound to others, or whether we're clear to our AI assistants! So from time to time, we like to grab a bunch of headphones and put their microphones through some tough real-world tests. This time, with the help of The Verge's John Higgins, we discover the best-sounding mic we've ever tested. And no, it's not on a pair of AirPods. Not even close.

Further reading:

 Anker’s new earbuds have the best call quality I’ve ever heard

 AirPods Pro 3 review: tripling down on a good thing

 Sennheiser’s new Momentum 5 headphones have upgraded ANC and a replaceable battery

 The tech world is sleeping on the most exciting Bluetooth feature in years

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The best headphone mic we've ever tested

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