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The Verge

The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

The Vergecast

Åhead of our last Friday episode of 2025, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr did The Vergecast an enormous favor: he went in front of Congress and said a bunch of wild things about regulation. So, of course, Nilay and David have to talk about them. For a really long time. After that, the hosts look at all the ways YouTube and Netflix are becoming more like one another, and then update the Go90 Scale of Doomed Streaming Services to round out the year. Finally, in the lightning round, there's talk of web apps, EVs, Bluesky, and the metaverse.

Further reading:

 The Vergecast live at CES

 Brendan Carr doesn’t regret his threats to broadcasters 

 Former FCC Chairman Michael Powell: ‘Cable companies are at the mercy of content companies’

 The Oscars will stream on YouTube in 2029 

 Netflix’s next big TV game is FIFA soccer 

 My Favorite Murder and The Breakfast Club podcasts are ditching YouTube for Netflix 

 Warner Bros. wants its shareholders to reject Paramount’s latest offer 

 Netflix is “100% committed” to releasing WB films in theaters. 

 Even Jared Kushner thinks the Paramount WB bid sucks.

 Peacock will bombard you with ads as soon as you open the app 

 HBO Max’s new channels keep Friends and Game of Thrones playing 24/7 

 Instagram is putting Reels on your TV 

 LG forced a Copilot web app onto its TVs but will let you delete it

 Mercedes-Benz discontinues feature that syncs music to driving

 Ford’s big bet on EVs didn’t pan out — now it’s pivoting to hybrids and energy storage

 Bluesky claims its new contact import feature is ‘privacy-first’ 

 Gemini 3 Flash is here, bringing a ‘huge’ upgrade to the Gemini app 

 The ChatGPT app store is here

 Alexa Plus’ website is live for some users 

 Meta pauses third-party Horizon VR headsets program 

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Brendan Carr is a dummy

Who's going to win the Super Bowl? What about the latest season of Survivor? Or the race to be the next chair of the Federal Reserve? Who will be Portugal's next president? How many times will Elon Musk tweet in the next week? On Polymarket, and other prediction markets, you can bet on all these things and more. Are we entering a world in which everything is gambling and gambling is everything? Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal joins the show to explain the rise of prediction markets, what's betting and what's investing, and more. Then, The Verge's Hayden Field teaches us about Model Context Protocol, a wonky bit of AI infrastructure that might be key to making AI agents work. MCP is barely a year old, and practically all of tech is ready to embrace it. Finally, Hayden helps David answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about why every AI company seems to want you to go shopping.

Further reading:

 Are prediction markets gambling? Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev is betting not

 Election night at Kalshi HQ

 
Joe Weisenthal at Bloomberg

 From Bloomberg: My Biggest Question About Prediction Markets

 Anthropic launches tool to connect AI systems directly to datasets

 AI companies want a new internet — and they think they’ve found the key

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Everything is gambling now

A year ago, David and Nilay sat down with Wall Street Journal senior tech columnist Joanna Stern to make a bunch of confident predictions about 2025. We got them... you know what, never mind. Let's look ahead to 2026! This year, we gather again to make increasingly bold bets about the year to come, including the future of a few of the world's biggest companies and whether we're finally going to get a foldable iPhone. Last year's predictions may not have been our best, but we're feeling good about these.

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The end of OpenAI, and other 2026 predictions

Technically, the Netflix / Warner Bros. news is almost a week old, but what a week it has been! And so, after some follow-up on smart shades and CES, Nilay and David talk through all that’s at stake in the fight between Paramount and Netflix — and whether it’s even possible for someone to win this deal. After that, Charlie Harding, co-host of Switched on Pop and honorary Vergecast intern, explains how AI is taking over the country music scene in Nashville. He also makes us a song, and it’s a jam. Lastly, the hosts talk about font news (with a special guest), Brendan Carr, smart rings, garage wars, and more.

Further reading:

 The Verge subscription turns one 

 Netflix is buying Warner Bros. for $83 billion 

 Paramount launches a hostile $108 billion bid to snatch Warner from Netflix 

 David Ellison pitches Paramount’s $108 billion hostile bid for WBD as “pro consumer.” 

 Behind Paramount’s Relentless Campaign to Woo Warner Discovery and President Trump

 New Paramount Speaks: Theatrical Films, Streaming Investment and Tech Upgrades Are Top Priorities

 Netflix CEO made a visit to the White House before buying Warner Bros. 

 Trump isn’t sold on the Netflix-Warner Bros. deal

 Netflix’s leadership thinks the Warner Bros. deal won’t be like other big media mergers.

 Welcome to the big leagues, Netflix 

 There are no good outcomes for the Warner Bros. sale

 OpenAI’s billion-dollar Disney deal puts Mickey Mouse and Marvel in Sora

 Get ready for an AI country music explosion

 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

 Chamberlain’s new technology blocks aftermarket controllers from working with its garage door openers

 The Pebble Index 01 is a smart ring with a built-in microphone

 Calibri is too woke for the State Department | The Verge

 Gruber got a copy of the thing

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How to vibe-write a country hit

Well, friends, it's been a year. And before we turn the page to 2026 and all the stories of 2025 begin to blur together, we decided to take stock of things. Nilay and David are joined by Wall Street Journal senior tech columnist Joanna Stern to debate the best products of the year, the biggest policy moves, the people who broke bad, the good AI things, the bad AI things, and much more. It's been a vibe-everything kind of year, and there's a lot to discuss.

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2025 year in review

AI models are very good at summarizing things, finding other things like those things, and helping you find those things again. But does that mean we should leave all the work of finding and understanding to those models? Sari Azout, the founder of an app called Sublime, doesn't think so. For this episode, the second in our two-part series about how developers are using AI and building models into their products, Azout explains how Sublime tries to balance being a thoroughly human-focused app with the efficiencies that come with new technologies. She has thoughts on curation, taste, and the differences between AI as a creative partner and AI as a creative replacement.

Further reading:

 Sublime

 From Sari's newsletter: What matters in the age of AI is taste

 From The Atlantic: Good Taste Is More Important Than Ever

 AI Is a Lot of Work

 Making human music in an AI world

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A very human vision for going all-in on AI

First things first: David and Nilay are both having some TV problems, and they need to talk it out. But then they get to the news of the week, including Samsung's new extra-foldy foldable phone, and a big change in the design departments at both Apple and Meta. What does it all say about the future of smart glasses? After that, the hosts talk through why Sam Altman declared a code red inside of OpenAI in order to redirect focus to ChatGPT — and whether the technology that has made all these products possible is actually the right technology moving forward. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, recap season, "dear algo," and thermostats.

Further reading:

 Samsung’s Z TriFold is official and it looks like a tablet with a phone attached 

 Huawei tris again. 

 Huawei’s first trifold is a great phone that you shouldn’t buy 

 Apple’s head of UI design is leaving for Meta 

 Apple AI chief steps down following Siri setbacks 

 Louie Mantia’s blog post about Dye

 Zuck’s post about the new team

 Linux usage on Steam hits a record high for the second month in a row 

 OpenAI declares ‘code red’ as Google catches up in AI race 

 OpenAI just made another circular deal 

 Anthropic’s AI bubble ‘YOLO’ warning 

 
Anthropic’s racing OpenAI to go public 

 Normalizing extraterrestrial data centers

 I tested five AI browsers and lost my mind in the process

 The AI boom is based on a fundamental mistake

 Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

 FCC boss Brendan Carr claims another victory over DEI as AT&T drops programs

 First there was nothing, then there was Hoto and Fanttik

 This new Honeywell Home smart thermostat can answer your Ring doorbell

 Spotify Wrapped 2025 turns listening into a competition 

 YouTube introduces its own version of Spotify Wrapped for videos 

 Amazon Music Delivered puts your top tunes on a festival poster. 

 Google Photos Recap will tell you how many selfies you took this year

 “Dear algo.” 

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It's code red for ChatGPT

Apple makes a lot of gadgets. You've probably heard of some of them. Most of them are very good! Few companies in tech, or anywhere, can claim a track record as impressive and consistent as the folks in Cupertino. But only one Apple product can be the best Apple product. The Verge's Victoria Song and Allison Johnson join David to rank Apple's nine product categories — iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, Vision Pro, AirPods, AirTags, HomePod, and Apple TV — in order of their best-ness. The gang agrees on a few, disagrees on a few, and gets in one argument that threatens to end the show forever.We want to hear what you think of our ranking! If you have thoughts, on Apple gadgets or anything, you can always call the Vergecast Hotline at 866-VERGE11 or email us at vergecast@theverge.com.

Further reading:

 Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not

 Apple HomePod (second-gen) review: playing it safe

 Apple TV 4K (2022) review: unmatched power, unrealized potential

 Apple Watch SE 3 review: major glow-up

 Apple iPad Pro (2025) review: fast, faster, fastest

 AirTag location trackers are smart, capable, and very Apple

 Apple iPhone 17 review: the one to get

 Apple iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max review

 Apple AirPods (third-gen) review: new design, same appeal

 Apple MacBook Air M4 review: a little more for a little less

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Apple gadgets, ranked

Raycast is an unusual app with an unusual amount of access: it's a launcher and application platform that can directly interact with all the files and apps on your computer. Raycast didn't start as an AI-centric product, but Thomas Paul Mann, the company's co-founder and CEO, thinks AI is the key to making Raycast even better. For this episode, the first in our two-part miniseries about how developers are using and building AI, Mann explains how he plans to turn models loose on your files and apps, how he's thinking about the security risks and privacy issues associated with that plan, and what it takes to build AI products that actually, you know, work. Mann also talks through how he uses AI, both in and out of Raycast, and how he became a prompt-first computer user.

Further reading:

 Raycast

 From the Raycast blog: One interface, many LLMs

 How to use Raycast and how it compares to Spotlight and Alfred

 Raycast’s iOS app is now available for AI chat and notes

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I just want AI to rename my photos

It's a holiday week for many of us, which means a lot of Turkey Trots and a lot of TV. We have something for both in this episode! First, Nick Thompson, the CEO of The Atlantic and author of the new book, The Running Ground, joins the show to talk about his lifelong journey as a runner, and all the tech — from smartwatch to shoes to custom GPTs — he uses in training. After that, The Verge's John Higgins makes his first Vergecast appearance to help us understand how motion smoothing works, why you should turn it off, and all the other ways you can improve your TV watching experience this holiday season. Finally, David follows up on a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) with some recommendations on inexpensive earbuds worth cranking up the volume on.

Further reading:

 Nick Thompson's book, The Running Ground

 From The Atlantic: Why I Run

 TV manufacturers unite to tackle the scourge of motion smoothing

 Dear Roku, you ruined my TV

 How to turn off motion smoothing on your high-definition TV

 Samsung’s Frame TV is finally getting the knockoffs it deserves

 Samsung announces The Frame Pro: could this be the perfect TV?

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The geek's guide to running faster

This week on a late night, sleep-deprived Vergecast, Nilay and Dieter reunite in Los Angeles to attend Recode's Code Conference and meet up with Lauren Goode and Casey Newton to give their take on the interviews and throw in a few anecdotes from the night. Things get silly. Also, Paul Miller updates us on new PC backpacks on this week's Gadget of the Week/Gadget Corner (we're still working on the name). 
04:26 - Jeff Bezos
34:56 - Paul’s Gadget of the Week
37:32 - Casey reads an ad for Squarespace
39:35 - Twitter talk
48:07 - Facebook talk
55:01 - Sundar Pichai
1:10:55 - Elon Musk
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