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The Verge

The Vergecast is the flagship daily podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And Monday through Thursday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

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For many of us in the US, it's the beginning of a holiday weekend. So we figured we'd try and help you out. We grabbed a bunch of Verge staffers, and asked them all a simple question: How do you disconnect? We have ideas about Wi-Fi, about phone hygiene, about smartwatches, and much more. We're certainly not here to tell you to ditch screens entirely, but... screen responsibly, you know? Send us your tips, and have a great summer vacation!

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Our favorite tips for logging off

Things don't look great for console and game makers right now. With Xbox and PlayStation sales flagging, Microsoft preparing for big layoffs in its gaming division, and the price of everything on the rise, maybe it makes sense to save money where you can. You know, like making discs? David and Nilay discuss the end of the physical video game, before wondering whether Microsoft might be getting ready to get rid of Xbox altogether. After that, they talk about the new wave of hardware for AI coders, and the ongoing attempt to replace your laptop keyboard with... something, plus the latest iPhone 18 rumors and leaks. Finally, it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a Dummy, some breaking SpaceX phone news, and some truly wild BMW headlights.

Further reading:

 Sony is killing all physical PlayStation game discs

 Xbox testing disc-to-digital feature that digitizes a physical game collection

 Xbox weighs canceling Blade game and shuttering Arkane 

 Xbox: “We’re not reducing our overall investment in games.” 

 Sony’s next-gen PlayStation will go ‘beyond the living room’ 

 PlayStation and Xbox hardware had a tough May. 

 Xbox prices spike another $100 or more

 With GTA looming, consoles are getting expensive at the worst possible time

 007 First Light’s developer lays off staff but claims its next franchise will continue

 Rockstar workers push to unionize ahead of GTA VI’s launch

 OpenAI is teasing new hardware… for Codex 

 Here’s a photo of OpenAI’s Codex hardware. 

 iPhone 18 Pro ‘drop test’ leaks get yanked from X 

 Leaked iPhone 18 Pro photos reportedly wound up on the dark web 

 A future Qi standard could bring 50W wireless charging to more devices. 

 Exclusive | SpaceX Showed Investors Prototype of Elon Musk’s New AI Device - WSJ

 Comcast is splitting in two

 The Supreme Court stops Trump’s attempt to end birthright citizenship

 WhatsApp is launching usernames: here’s how to reserve yours 

 Supreme Court allows firing of FTC commissioners, ends agency independence 

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:00:00 Intro

00:02:00 Book Pitch and Grill Week

00:04:00 Discs Are Dying

00:08:00 Live Service Shopping Malls

00:11:00 Microsoft Xbox Layoffs Talk

00:16:00 Console Sales Slump and Prices

00:20:00 PlayStation Beyond Living Room

00:24:00 OpenAI Codex Macro Keyboard

00:27:00 Voice Coding and Verification Loops

00:31:00 Dictation Hype and AI Limits

00:39:00 iPhone 18 Pro Leak Mystery

00:44:00 Battery Life Tradeoffs

00:48:00 Fast Wireless Charging Heat

00:52:00 CarPlay Beta Workarounds

00:56:00 Netflix Horror Unhinged

01:03:00 Cozy Repair Game Restory

01:06:00 Brendan Carr is a Dummy

01:16:00 SpaceX AI Phone Rumors

01:22:00 Grok OS App Problem

01:25:00 Comcast Splits In Two

01:33:00 WhatsApp Username Land Grab

01:35:00 BMW Headlights Go Bananas

01:40:00 Wrap Up And Plugs
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The video game disc is dead

For years, Rivian has looked like one of the most compelling electric vehicle companies in America — and maybe the car maker most equipped to take on Tesla. All that potential comes down to this: the R2, the long-awaited and more affordable car that Rivian hopes can make it truly mainstream. After a journey to the R2's factory earlier this year, The Verge's Andrew Hawkins explains what the R2 is, why it matters, and what happens to Rivian if it's a hit — or a flop.

Further reading:

 ⁠Range anxiety⁠

 ⁠The Rivian R2 is too much fun to let drive itself⁠

 ⁠Rivian surprises with R3 and R3X electric SUVs⁠

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Rivian’s last chance to take on Tesla

The Onion's takeover of conspiracy show InfoWars isn't officially complete — but comedian Tim Heidecker, who's serving as creative director, won't let that stop him from building out a slate of comedy programming. Before the new InfoWars launches July 2, The Verge's Mia Sato interviews Tim about what drew him to the project, how long he can (or wants to) maintain an Alex Jones parody, and whether it's worth doing an interview with The Verge when you've already done one with Wired.

Further reading:

 ⁠The Onion’s rebooted InfoWars is coming July 2nd⁠

 ⁠The Onion’s acquisition of Infowars was blocked by a judge⁠

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Meet The Onion's new and improved InfoWars

It's time for a new series on The Vergecast! (It still needs a name. Please help.) We're going to give Verge staffers a challenge, and regroup a few weeks later to see who did it best. We're starting with some vibe coding. The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes and Hayden Field share what they've made with AI that has actually stuck in their lives, before David gives the challenge: build a website to solve a problem in your life. The more ambitious and impressive the better. We'll be back with the results soon, and in the meantime, send us ideas for more challenges! (Also, names for the series. PLEASE.)

Further reading:

 ⁠Anthropic’s Mythos 5 is back | The Verge⁠

 ⁠Supreme Court allows firing of FTC commissioners, ends agency independence⁠

 ⁠Comcast is splitting in two | The Verge⁠

 ⁠WhatsApp is launching usernames: here’s how to reserve yours | The Verge⁠

 ⁠Welcome to the personal software revolution⁠

 ⁠I used Claude to vibe-code my wildly overcomplicated smart home⁠

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Our vibe coded projects that actually work

Meta's business is doing just fine. But Meta as a company, and Meta as a series of products? That is, uh, messier. David and Nilay discuss the company's ongoing desire to be relevant and cool, the unceasing importance of Instagram, and why it makes perfect sense that Facebook would clone Polymarket. After that, the hosts talk about Apple's huge price increases, and the ways in which RAMageddon might change the gadget market forever. Then it's time for Brendan Carr is a dummy, the latest on the movie Artificial, and the looming fight over AI data.

Further reading: 

 ⁠The Steam Machine is the most ambitious game console I’ve ever played ⁠

 ⁠Valve prices the Steam Machine at $1,049 ⁠

 ⁠How much would the Steam Machine cost to build? ⁠

 ⁠Valve describes just how brutal RAM negotiations are in 2026 ⁠

 ⁠The Steam Machine is the start of an even more expensive future for game consoles ⁠

 ⁠I drove the Slate Truck — there’s more to it than EV minimalism ⁠

 ⁠The Slate Auto pickup truck starts at $24,950 ⁠

 ⁠Meta pauses employee tracking tool after internal leak. ⁠

 ⁠Now Meta will track what employees do on their computers to train its AI agents ⁠

 ⁠Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth Admits the Company’s AI Reorg Was ‘Atrocious’ | WIRED⁠

 ⁠Zuckerberg reportedly wants a Polymarket clone — but without real money⁠

 ⁠Polymarket paid creators to post fake videos of themselves placing and winning bets. ⁠

 ⁠Meta plans to release AI-powered prediction market app⁠

 ⁠Facebook’s Creator Studio has been revived as an AI companion app⁠

 ⁠Kaleidescape’s Strato E player blows streaming, and your wallet, away ⁠

 ⁠Something’s off with Midjourney’s pivot to body scanners ⁠

 ⁠People Inc. CEO says it’s “probably” headed for a confrontation with Google over AI crawling.⁠

 ⁠ABC encourages viewers to back network amid FCC investigations⁠

 ⁠Bob Iger’s Disney wanted Apple, Twitter, and 007 ⁠

 ⁠The film about Sam Altman has been dropped by Amazon MGM ⁠

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:01:00 Cannes Cold Open

00:07:00 Coach x Spotify Absurdity

00:10:00 Vox Media PMX Shakeup

00:14:00 Meta Chaos vs Money

00:26:00 Gambling as Engagement

00:33:00 Ramageddon Hits Gadgets

00:44:00 Slate Truck Price

00:45:00 Range And Truck Feel

00:48:00 Tech Bloat Backlash

00:50:00 BYD Versus Tesla

00:56:00 FCC Targets The View

01:04:00 Amazon Drops Artificial

01:08:00 Kaleidescape Versus Blu Ray

01:13:00 Bob Iger Merger Rumors

01:17:00 Blocking AI Crawlers

01:22:00 Wrap Up And Next Week
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Of course Meta thinks gambling is the future

Training data is the raw material of the AI industry. Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and the rest are built on top of oceans of stuff. What is that stuff? Books. Blog posts. YouTube videos. Reddit comments. All of it and more, in virtually incomprehensible quantities. Alex Reisner, a staff writer at The Atlantic who has been investigating training data, explains how AI companies get all this data, why they'd really prefer you not know what's in it, and whether training data could ever be a fair trade.

Further reading:

 Apple raises prices on Macs, iPads, and more by hundreds of dollars | The Verge⁠

 ⁠Disney agrees to pay $50 million to YouTube TV and DirecTV subscribers | The Verge⁠

 Two handlebars are better than one, right? | The Verge⁠

 At Least 15 Million YouTube Videos Have Been Snatched by AI Companies⁠⁠

 ⁠⁠The Hypocrisy at the Heart of the AI Industry ⁠⁠

 ⁠⁠The Millions of Songs Mashed Into AI-Generated Music⁠⁠

 ⁠⁠Common Crawl Is Doing the AI Industry’s Dirty Work⁠⁠

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How to train your data

Google is shipping its first smart speaker in six years, and we're starting to test it. The Verge's Jennifer Pattison Tuohy joins the show to explain why the Home Speaker matters, whether Google actually cares about the smart home, and more. Then, she helps answer a few questions from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about the power of Ikea and the future of your thermostat.

Further reading:

 The Google Home Speaker sounds good and looks great — but it’s finicky

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Google's new speaker and your smart home questions

A huge portion of the tech industry has decided that smart glasses are the next big thing. But why? Smart glasses are incredibly hard to make, hugely socially complicated, and require users to want to wear a gadget on their face. The Verge's Victoria Song helps us figure out which features, if any, will make smart glasses worth all the trouble.

Further reading:

 All these smart glasses and nothing to do

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Why Big Tech can't quit smart glasses

Valve has been trying to crack the living room for more than a decade, and the new Steam Machine is its best attempt yet. It's a little bit PC, a little bit console, and a lot pricy — starting at $1,049, it had a lot to live up to. The Verge’s Sean Hollister has been testing the device, and shares his findings on whether the Steam Machine can hang with PlayStation and Xbox. He also explains why, despite a never-ending list of challenges, Valve is still trying to make this device work.

Further reading:

 ⁠The Steam Machine is the most ambitious game console I’ve ever played⁠

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Is the Steam Machine worth the wait?

Long before Steve Jobs was the unstoppable force of nature atop Apple, shipping hit product after hit product, he was practically run out of the company after a series of bad product and management decisions. But as Geoffrey Cain argues in his new book, Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary, the 12 years Jobs spent outside of Apple turned him into the leader the world came to know. Cain joins the show to talk about Jobs' experiences at NeXT and Pixar, how Jobs learned to be a successful leader, and the true power — and danger — of the reality distortion field.

Further reading:

 Steve Jobs in Exile

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(Timestamps are approximate.)

00:01:30 Intro

00:01:56 90 Seconds on The Verge

00:03:46 Interview with Geoffrey Cain
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How Steve Jobs became Steve Jobs

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