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The Ringer

‘The Ringer Wrestling Show’ brings you instant reactions to the biggest matches, breakdowns of the hottest feuds, and analysis of all the latest gossip in the wild world of professional wrestling. Join "The Masked Man" David Shoemaker, Kazeem Famuyide, Ben Cruz and Brian H. Waters for a podcast feed that redefines what it means to be a wrestling fan.

The Ringer Wrestling Show

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: Would it be better for Bron Breakker or Jacob Fatu to be mad at you (1:03)?The band is back together. David, Kaz, Ben, and Brian kick off the show by resuming their conversation about pro wrestling’s Trae Young comparison (4:20). Then they fantasy book a Survivor Series: WarGames match featuring USA vs. the world (10:50).Then David and Kaz recap the following from the weekend:

 Je’Von Evans's first match as part of the 'Raw' roster (15:33)

 Drew McIntyre defeats Cody Rhodes for the WWE Championship (25:38)

 Finn Balor’s chances of defeating CM Punk for the World Heavyweight title (39:11)

 The women’s tag team division (56:00)

 Which NBA star could get a YEET entrance (1:06:29)?

 Oba Femi left the NXT title in the ring (1:12:27)

Be sure to check out our videos on⁠ BlueSky⁠,⁠ TikTok⁠,⁠ Instagram Threads⁠, and⁠ X⁠.Hosts: David Shoemaker, Kazeem Famuyide, Ben Cruz, and Brian H. WatersProducer: Brian H. WatersAdditional Production Support: Ben Cruz
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Drew McIntyre Wins WWE Championship. Will Finn Balor Become World Champion Next Week?

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: For $600, would you rather have a bad Ric Flair cameo or nosebleed seats at the Elimination Chamber (1:00)?

Shoes is back, and he is joined by Ben and Brian. He has a few more cold open questions, including:

 
A bad Ric Flair cameo or an immaculate AI ’80s Ric Flair promo (3:32)?

 
Bigger loss: EC3 leaving NWA or Brock Lesnar retiring from wrestling events (6:19)?

 
Who is the wrestling Trae Young (7:38)?

Then they discuss the following:

 
Bron Breakker’s path to the main event of WrestleMania (14:37)

 
Oba Femi vacating the NXT title (21:53)

 
Trick Williams and Matt Cardona join 'SmackDown,' Je’Von Evans joins 'Raw,' and Jordynne Grace is still deciding (27:34)

 
Ricky Saints is now the guy in NXT (34:43)

 
Andrade and Jake Doyle debut in AEW (36:00)

 
Jon Moxley’s babyface turn (42:05)

 
MJF’s reign as AEW World Champion (45:12)

 
CM Punk’s comments about fans complaining (53:23)

 
Why Damian Priest is too cool to be a babyface (59:19)

Be sure to check out our videos on⁠ BlueSky⁠,⁠ TikTok⁠,⁠ Instagram Threads⁠, and⁠ X⁠.

Hosts: David Shoemaker, Ben Cruz, and Brian H. Waters

Producer: Brian H. Waters

Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz

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Shoemaker Plays Catch-Up With Everything He Missed in Pro Wrestling

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: What is your pro wrestling New Year’s resolution?

Ben and Brian fill in for David and Kaz and kick off the show by discussing the one-year anniversary of ‘WWE Raw’ on Netflix, which had a ‘Stranger Things’ theme. They talk about the following:

 Brian’s experience in the arena vs. Ben’s experience watching on Netflix (3:00)

 How WWE incorporated ‘Stranger Things’ (8:23)

 CM Punk retains the world title against Bron Breakker (13:56)

 Is the Vision lackluster without Seth Rollins (20:09)?

 Rhea Ripley and Iyo Sky win the women’s tag team titles (25:45)

 Becky Lynch beats Maxxine Dupri for the Women’s Intercontinental Championship (33:34)

 Fans are upset that Chris Jericho did not appear on ‘WWE Raw’ (40:29)

 Trick Williams and Matt Cardona debuting on 'SmackDown' (50:00)

 Drew McIntyre challenging Cody Rhodes to a Three Stages of Hell match (54:39)

 MJF becoming AEW world champion and Willow Nightingale winning two titles, including dethroning Mercedes Moné (58:21)

Then they recap a few things we missed over the break, including:Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.

Hosts: Ben Cruz and Brian H. WatersProducer: Brian H. WatersAdditional Production Support: Ben Cruz
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Was the One-Year Anniversary of ‘WWE Raw’ on Netflix Too "Strange"?

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: When is the last time you tapped out like John Cena (1:05)? David is joined by Ben and Brian and they kick off the show to discuss wrestling after Cena. Then they get open the mailbag and look at your responses for some end-of-year awards, which include best hair, best entrance, most not-for-me angle, best pivot, and more (25:01).Then, they welcome the man who brought so many tears to adults and children when he retired Cena: the Ring General, Gunther (1:37:40). He discusses the following:

 His trolling posts on social media after his win (1:38:30)

 The tension backstage the before Saturday Night’s Main Event (1:4916)

 How he is loving the boos (1:52:00)

 His interaction with AJ Styles backstage (1:54:23)

Read David’s piece on The Ringer reflecting on John Cena’s career.Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.Hosts: David Shoemaker, Kazeem Famuyide, Ben Cruz and Brian H. WatersGuest: GuntherProducer: Brian H. Waters
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Best of 2025 Mailbag. Plus, Gunther Talks the Heat Behind Retiring John Cena.

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: If you were John Cena, who would you have wanted to put over in your last match?

David and Kaz spend today’s show diving into every angle of John Cena’s retirement at Saturday Night’s Main Event this past weekend. They give their initial reactions to Cena tapping out to Gunther and the fan response to one of the biggest stars in wrestling history calling it a career.

Plus, they discuss the following:

 Gunther as Cena’s final opponent (12:20)

 Who from NXT gained the most from SNME (34:31)?

 Gunther’s best WrestleMania opponent (43:56)

 How SNME affects John Cena’s GOAT status (58:35)

 Whether Saturday was Triple Hs "Mr. McMahon” moment (1:12:39)

Be sure to check out our videos on⁠ BlueSky⁠,⁠ TikTok⁠,⁠ Instagram Threads⁠, and⁠ X⁠.

Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem Famuyide

Producer: Bruce Baldwin
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Reviewing John Cena’s Last Match and Saturday Night’s Main Event

On the eve of John Cena’s last match, David, Kaz, and Brian discuss his legacy and the hype meter for his final match with Gunther at Saturday Night’s Main Event (5:18)

Then they discuss the following:

 
Cody Rhodes vs. Oba Femi (39:15)

 
Bayley vs. Sol Ruca (48:00)

 
World Tag Team Champions AJ Styles & Dragon Lee vs. Je'Von Evans & Leon Slater (52:20)

 
Who is the Masked Man in WWE (56:12)?

 
Kyle Fletcher vs. SpeedBall Mike Bailey (1:03:20)

 
LA Knight gets destroyed on 'Raw' (1:13:34)

Then, they welcome NXT Champion Oba Femi ahead of his match with Cody Rhodes and he discusses the following:

Preparing to serve Cody Rhodes a dish of dominance (1:25:10)

Lessons he has learned from John Cena (1:30:12)

How he is enjoying his run on top of NXT (1:40:30)

Read David’s piece on the ringer dot com reflecting on John Cena’s career.

Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.

Hosts: David Shoemaker, Kazeem Famuyide and Brian H. Waters

Guest: Oba Femi

Producer: Brian H. Waters

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Oba Femi Joins to Talk Saturday Night’s Main Event, Plus Favorite John Cena Moments

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: Who is your favorite “old guy” wrestler (0:41)?David and Kaz kick off the show recapping NXT Deadline and comparing the current NXT men’s roster to the 2003 NBA draft (5:06). They also discuss the following:

 The Men’s and Women’s Iron Survivor Match (14:00)

 Gunther wins the Last Time Is Now tournament and will face John Cena (22:53)

 Breaking news regarding the Rock (25:15)

 Expected cameos for John Cena’s last match (31:15)

 Red Velvet defeats Mercedes Moné for the Ring of Honor Women’s TV Title (55:23)

 David proposes a new NXT championship title (58:10)

 Who is John Cena’s best rivalry (1:02:00)?

Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem FamuyideProducer: Brian H. Waters
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John Cena vs. Gunther Set for Saturday Night’s Main Event. Plus, NXT Deadline Recap.

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: Who would be the absolute worst musical act to feature in a pro-wrestling-match soundtrack?

David and Kaz kick off the show by discussing the big news that is the Netflix–Warner Brothers deal and how they think this will affect AEW and WWE, before getting into some wild speculation (5:00). Plus, they discuss the following:

 
TNA’s new television deal with AMC (24:19)

 
Things that actually happened on wrestling programs this week (42:46)

 
CM Punk’s beloved dog Larry passing away (50:38)

 
Who'll win the ‘Last Time Is Now’ tournament (57:30)

 
The women’s tag team divisions in both AEW and WWE (1:04:15)

Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky⁠, TikTok⁠, Instagram Threads⁠, and⁠ X⁠.

Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem Famuyide

Producer: Bruce Baldwin
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What Does the Netflix–WB Deal Mean for Wrestling?

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: If David, Kaz, Ben, and Brian were in a WarGames match, in what order would they go into the match (0:45)?

The guys kick off the show by discussing the current state of Survivor Series and whether or not WarGames is still necessary (2:51). Plus they discuss the following:

 
Could the Iron Survivor Challenge be a part of Survivor Series (21:45)?

 
The WrestleMania main events set up at Survivor Series (26:00).

 
Is Dominik Mysterio the fourth-biggest male superstar (34:45)?

 
The Iyo Sky trash can (59:09)

 
Who was the mystery man at the end of Survivor Series (1:07:50)?

Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.

Hosts: David Shoemaker, Kazeem Famuyide, Ben Cruz, and Brian H. Waters

Producer: Brian H. Waters

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Did Survivor Series Give Us a Preview of the Two WrestleMania Main Events?

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: Make up Bret Hart’s next controversial claim.David and Kaz kick off the week by recapping AEW Full Gear, where Samoa Joe regained the AEW World Championship from Adam “Hangman” Page (7:25).Later, they preview WWE ‘Raw,’ where the Time Is Now Tournament continues with Solo Sikoa vs. Penta and Carmelo Hayes vs. Gunther (1:03:40). Plus, they discuss the hype levels for WarGames vs. John Cena’s retirement match (1:08:19).Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem FamuyideProducer: Brian H. Waters
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Samoa Joe Regains the AEW World Championship. Plus, Hype Levels for the Last Time Is Now Tournament.

COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: In kayfabe, who is the worst father: Paul Bearer, Rey Mysterio, Ric Flair, or Stu Hart (0:30)? David and Kaz kick off the week by discussing the reports about Triple H’s decision to make Gunther vs. Goldberg a world title match (3:35). Then they also discuss the following:

 
Whether or not the John Cena heel turn is turning the corner (20:05)

 
Who the one to dethrone Cena should be (32:55)

 
King and Queen of the Ring Tournaments shape up (42:38)

 
Tag team wrestling at the top of the card (52:24)

Catch all our video content on ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠TikTok⁠, ⁠Instagram Threads⁠, and ⁠X⁠.

Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem Famuyide

Producer: Brian H. Waters

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John Cena’s Heel Turn Is Picking Up Steam. Plus, Evaluating Today’s Tag Team Wrestling Scene. | The Masked Man Show

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