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The Ringer

Chris Vernon and David Jacoby discuss all the news, trends, and transactions happening in the NBA. They also offer their on-court analysis, and occasionally get into heated debates.

The Mismatch

Verno and Jacoby are together in New York, and they discuss the reports that the Grizzlies are open to trading Ja Morant. Verno explains why a trade would be bad for both sides and why he hopes Ja will stay in Memphis. Next, they recap some of the Monday night action, including the Jazz's upset win against the Cavs, the Sixers defeating the Raptors, and Joe Mazzulla blaming illegal screens for the Celtics' loss to the Pacers. Next, with the season nearing the halfway point, the guys share their biggest surprises, biggest disappointments, and one thing they love and hate about this season so far. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:55) The Grizzlies are open to trading Ja Morant (25:58) Monday night scores and recaps (37:25) Verno's and Jacoby’s biggest surprises (47:53) Verno's and Jacoby’s biggest disappointments (54:25) What Verno and Jacoby love about the season so far (01:01:52) What Verno and Jacoby hate about the season so far 

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Biggest Surprises, Biggest Disappointments, and What We Love and Hate From This Season. Plus: Verno Can’t Let Ja Go.

Verno and Jacoby return as they discuss the Wolves' victory over the Cavs in which Anthony Edwards became the third-youngest player to reach 10,000 points and explain what could be causing the disappointing season from the Cavs. They then debate whether Anthony Davis is seriously injured, discuss the Pacers ending their 13-game losing streak, and just what the Wizards' plans are with Trae Young. Next, the guys go through their first loves and loathes of the year. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (03:01) Anthony Edwards reaches scoring milestone in Wolves’ win over Cavs (09:03) Cooper Flagg shines, but Anthony Davis appeared to get hurt again in Mavs’ loss (17:07) Pacers finally end 13-game skid with win vs. Hornets (24:30) Trae Young finally gets traded; goes to the Wizards for CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert (35:42) Latest Giannis comments (37:41) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (44:01) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (53:17) No. 2 loves of the week (01:02:28) No. 2 loathes of the week (01:12:20) No. 3 loves of the week (01:17:25) No. 3 loathes of the week Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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The Fading Cavs, Good Vibe Suns, the LinkedIn Warrior, and What Are the Wizards' Intentions With Trae Young?

Verno and Jacoby are back with their first pod of 2026 as they look back at Monday’s night action, including blowout losses by the Thunder and Knicks and Kevin Durant beating his old team, and debate whether the Clippers are starting to turn it around. Next, the guys ask three questions each to start the new year. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:22) Thunder lose second straight, get blown out by Hornets (12:38) Kevin Durant hits the game-winning 3 as the Rockets beat Suns (16:20) Depleted Nuggets survive vs. Sixers (26:50) Clippers win a wild one vs. Warriors (33:12) Pistons completely embarrass the Knicks (38:25) Trae Young and the Hawks working on a trade (49:14) Verno and Jacoby's questions no. 1 (58:14) Verno and Jacoby's questions no. 2 (01:09:11) Verno and Jacoby's questions no. 3 Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Thunder Humbled, Knicks Embarrassed, Edgecombe Madness, and Six Questions to Start 2026

Verno and Jacoby return with the last episode of 2025 as they recap the action from Monday night, including Nikola Jokic’s injury (ESPN’s Shams Charania reported after the recording that Jokic has been diagnosed with a hyperextension in his left knee and will miss at least the next four weeks), the Raptors getting it done by committee against the Warriors and Magic, the Cavs getting back on track against the Spurs, Deni Avdija’s continued success for the Blazers, and how the Mavs are handling Cooper Flagg's development. Next, the guys give out their predictions for 2026. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:26) Nuggets fall to the Heat after Nikola Jokic goes down with injury (05:30) Raptors bounce back after losing to the Wizards with comeback wins against the Warriors and Magic (12:51) Cavs end two-game skid with win over Spurs in San Antonio (16:34) Deni Avdija continues his quietly great season in Blazers win against Mavs (18:53) Will Cooper Flagg ever play with Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving? (24:45) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 1 (37:13) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 2 (41:44) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 3 (51:20) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 4 (58:59) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 5 The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Will LeBron Retire at the End of the Season? Plus, Trae’s Future, Tanking Teams, and More 2026 Predictions!

Verno and Jacoby are back to recap the full Christmas Day slate of games. They break down the incredible performances from Nikola Jokic and Anthony Edwards in the Nuggets' thrilling OT win over the Wolves, how the Spurs remain undefeated against the Thunder, the tale of two halves at Madison Square Garden, JJ Redick’s anger after the Lakers' loss to the Rockets, and how Cooper Flagg stole the show in the Mavs' loss to the Warriors. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:37) Nikola Jokic puts up a wild triple-double and outlasts Anthony Edwards and the Wolves in OT thriller (15:08) The Spurs beat the Thunder for the third time in two weeks (25:16) The Knicks overcome a 17-point deficit and defeat the Cavs (39:23) JJ Redick calls out the Lakers after loss to the Rockets (49:34) Anthony Davis is hurt, but Cooper Flagg shines in the Mavs' loss to the Warriors The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Jokic’s Video Game Triple-Double, the Broken Lakers, the Comeback Knicks, and the Spurs Beat the Thunder Yet Again

Verno and Jacoby return to break down the wild Thursday-night slate in the NBA that saw multiple one-score games and overtime finishes. After, the guys dive into their loves and loathes from the past week in the league. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (01:48) Nikola Jokic breaks record in win vs. Magic (05:09) Pelicans storm back in OT win vs. Rockets (09:18) Mavs survive Pistons in OT (14:29) The Suns escape with win against the Warriors (18:18) Lamelo Ball, Hornets spoil Trae Young’s return with win vs. Hawks (21:07) Luka’s triple-double lifts Lakers past Jazz (25:14) Blazers outlast Kings in OT (30:31) Knicks steal a win vs. Pacers(33:02) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (36:16) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (43:26) No. 2 loves of the week (51:13) No. 2 loathes of the week (55:42) No. 3 loves of the week (59:33) No. 3 loathes of the week The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Brian Waters Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Thursday Night's Thrillers, Hungover Knicks, and the Giannis-Target Comp

Verno and Jacoby return as they preview the NBA Cup championship between the Knicks and Spurs. They then debate whether the NBA Cup could potentially move away from Las Vegas and what the best options are for the fans to be able to go see the games in person. Next, they go through Monday night’s slate of NBA action. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:40) NBA Cup championship preview (18:16) Will the NBA Cup leave Las Vegas? (24:06) Nuggets win OT thriller vs. Rockets (32:12) Cade Cunningham shines in win vs. Celtics (35:17) Cooper Flagg makes history in loss to Jazz (40:42) Cam Spencer stays hot and Ja Morant is injured in win vs. Clippers (45:35) How the NBA Cup has affected the Giannis trade market (49:24) Kristaps Porzingis out at least two weeks with illness (52:46) Evan Mobley's calf strain and the Cavs' disappointing season so far The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Will Vegas Lose the NBA Cup? Plus: Nuggets Outlast Rockets, Spencer Bros., and How the Cup Is Affecting the Giannis Trade Market.

Verno and Jacoby return as they recap the NBA Cup games from Tuesday and Wednesday night. They discuss the Thunder's continued dominance to start the season after matching the best 25-game start in NBA history, how the Spurs exploited the Lakers' defensive inefficiencies, and why the Knicks have a chance against the Magic. Next, the guys dive into their loves and loathes from the past week in the NBA. 

 

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! 

(02:30) Western Conference NBA Cup recap 

(16:50) Eastern Conference NBA Cup recap 

(27:40) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week 

(35:58) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week 

(42:00) No. 2 loves of the week 

(51:59) No. 2 loathes of the week 

(58:30) No. 3 loves of the week 

(01:03:20) No. 3 loathes of the week 

 

The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. 

 

Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 

 

Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby 

Producers: Jessie Lopez, Brian Waters, and Oscar De La Luz 

Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Jaylen Brown’s Pippen Moment, Beef Stew Hype, Christmas Cards, and Are the Thunder Chasing History?

It’s NBA Cup week! Verno and Jacoby preview the upcoming games, starting with the Eastern Conference. Can the Magic keep it going against the Heat without Franz Wagner? Can the Knicks finally get past the Cup quarterfinals against the Raptors? Next, they dive into the matchups in the Western Conference. Do the Suns stand any chance at defeating the Thunder? Will Victor Wembanyama return to lead the Spurs against Luka, LeBron, and the Lakers? Also, they guys continue to debate whether the Bucks should trade Giannis Antetokounmpo, and if the teams most interested actually need him. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (07:29) NBA Cup preview: Heat vs. Magic (21:57) NBA Cup Preview: Knicks vs. Raptors (36:12) NBA Cup preview: Suns vs. Thunder (53:48) NBA Cup preview: Spurs vs. LakersThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David JacobyProducers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Oscar De La LuzSocial: Keith Fujimoto
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NBA Cup Special: The Unbeatable Thunder, and Can the Knicks Get Over the Hump? Plus: Do the Spurs Need Giannis?

Verno and Jacoby are back as they discuss LeBron James losing his 10+ points streak in the Lakers' win against the Raptors, Austin Reaves's monster season, and debate if LeBron is still working his way back from injury. They then discuss the thrilling game between the Sixers and Warriors, speculate on the next move for Giannis and the Bucks, as well as the Chris Paul-Clippers drama. Next, the guys dive into their loves and loathes from the past week in the NBA. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:39) LeBron loses 10+ point streak in Lakers win (09:52) Sixers survive thriller against Warriors (15:27) What is Giannis’s next move? (24:25) CP3-Clippers drama (31:15) Loves of the week (50:30) Loathes of the week The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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LeBron Loses His Streak, Giannis’s Next Steps, Anonymous Assassinations, and Are the Celtics Actually Good?

Verno and KOC discuss the Game 6 blowout win from the Timberwolves, as they force a Game 7 on Sunday in Denver (01:18). They then move on to tonight’s Game 6 between the Knicks and Pacers before discussing the Cavs' future after they got eliminated by the Celtics (23:14). Also, the guys debate whether the Thunder can push for a Game 7 against the Mavs and KOC shares his experience watching Dead & Company at the Sphere (42:42).

Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com!
Or you can send the guys a tweet @ChrisVernonShow and @KevinOConnorNBA!

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor
Producer: Jessie Lopez
Social: Keith Fujimoto
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Wolves Force Game 7, Knicks-Pacers Preview, and OKC’s Odds in Dallas

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