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The Ringer

Chris Vernon and David Jacoby discuss all the news, trends, and transactions happening in the NBA. They also offer their on-court analysis, and occasionally get into heated debates.

The Mismatch

Verno and Jacoby return as they briefly recap some of Thursday night’s action, including the Sixers beating the Rockets in OT, the Magic’s disappointing season, and yet another blow to the Warriors in their loss to the Mavs. Next, the guys into their loves and loathes from the previous week. 

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (03:12) Tyrese Maxey, Joel Embiid lift Sixers past Rockets in OT (07:05) The disappointing Magic season continues after a blowout loss to the Hornets (09:52) Warriors lose another player to injury in loss to the Mavs (14:05) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (20:39)Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (30:22) No. 2 loves of the week (37:47) No. 2 loathes of the week (44:00) No. 3 loves of the week (56:40) No. 3 loathes of the week 

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Brian Waters, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Are the Sixers Back? Plus: The Suns' Turnaround Season, Jalen Johnson’s Rise, and Draymond’s Delusion

Verno and Jacoby react to the breaking news from last night that Warriors player Jimmy Butler is out for the season after tearing his ACL in the win against the Heat. They debate what the Warriors can do to try salvage the rest of the season, what they will do with Jonathan Kuminga now that Jimmy is injured, and the franchise’s outlook with Steph Curry. Next, the guys share eight things that they care about, including the Knicks, Anthony Edwards vs. Victor Wembanyama, All-Star starters, and so much more. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:38) Jimmy Butler tears ACL in Warriors' win vs. Heat (16:36) Thing no. 1 we care about: The Knicks (28:37) Thing no. 2 we care about: Ja Morant (40:58) Thing no. 3 we care about: The certified top team in each conference (46:37) Thing no. 4 we care about: All-Star starters announced (50:02) Thing no. 5 we care about: Anthony Edwards vs. Victor Wembanyama(50:02) Thing no. 6 we care about: Surging January teams (53:00) Thing no. 7 we care about: What happens next with Steph Curry and LeBron James? (58:28) Thing no. 8 we care about: NBA Europe and PIF (the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia) Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Can the Warriors Still Contend Without Jimmy? Plus: Eight Things We Care About.

Verno and Jacoby return as they share the latest on Ja Morant and the Grizzlies before discussing their game against the Magic in Germany. They then go through the rest of the Thursday night slate of action as they discuss whether it's officially time to be concerned about the Rockets; the struggles of watching Karl-Anthony Towns on the Knicks; whether the Warriors will get anything in return for Jonathan Kuminga; the Pistons, who keep on rolling; Klay Thompson passing Damian Lillard on the all-time 3-point list; and more. Next, the guys dive into their loves and loathes from the past week in the NBA. 

 

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (01:05) Latest on Ja Morant (17:10) Magic beat Grizzlies in Germany (21:53) KD struggles in the Rockets' loss to the Thunder (28:31) LaMelo Ball and Hornets run out Lakers at home (30:46) The Warriors beat the Knicks at home. What can Golden State get for Jonathan Kuminga? (37:23) The Pistons overcome Cade Cunningham’s struggles and rally to beat the Suns (39:25) The rest of Thursday night’s action (47:55) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (56:01) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (01:05:45) No. 2 loves of the week (01:13:41) No. 2 loathes of the week (01:18:38) No. 3 loves of the week (01:28:32) No. 3 loathes of the week 

 

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Brian H. Waters, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Ja Is Done in Memphis, Concern About the Rockets, SGA Gets Spicy, NBA in Europe, and Is Jayson Tatum Close to Returning?

Verno and Jacoby are together in New York, and they discuss the reports that the Grizzlies are open to trading Ja Morant. Verno explains why a trade would be bad for both sides and why he hopes Ja will stay in Memphis. Next, they recap some of the Monday night action, including the Jazz's upset win against the Cavs, the Sixers defeating the Raptors, and Joe Mazzulla blaming illegal screens for the Celtics' loss to the Pacers. Next, with the season nearing the halfway point, the guys share their biggest surprises, biggest disappointments, and one thing they love and hate about this season so far. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:55) The Grizzlies are open to trading Ja Morant (25:58) Monday night scores and recaps (37:25) Verno's and Jacoby’s biggest surprises (47:53) Verno's and Jacoby’s biggest disappointments (54:25) What Verno and Jacoby love about the season so far (01:01:52) What Verno and Jacoby hate about the season so far 

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Biggest Surprises, Biggest Disappointments, and What We Love and Hate From This Season. Plus: Verno Can’t Let Ja Go.

Verno and Jacoby return as they discuss the Wolves' victory over the Cavs in which Anthony Edwards became the third-youngest player to reach 10,000 points and explain what could be causing the disappointing season from the Cavs. They then debate whether Anthony Davis is seriously injured, discuss the Pacers ending their 13-game losing streak, and just what the Wizards' plans are with Trae Young. Next, the guys go through their first loves and loathes of the year. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (03:01) Anthony Edwards reaches scoring milestone in Wolves’ win over Cavs (09:03) Cooper Flagg shines, but Anthony Davis appeared to get hurt again in Mavs’ loss (17:07) Pacers finally end 13-game skid with win vs. Hornets (24:30) Trae Young finally gets traded; goes to the Wizards for CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert (35:42) Latest Giannis comments (37:41) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (44:01) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (53:17) No. 2 loves of the week (01:02:28) No. 2 loathes of the week (01:12:20) No. 3 loves of the week (01:17:25) No. 3 loathes of the week Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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The Fading Cavs, Good Vibe Suns, the LinkedIn Warrior, and What Are the Wizards' Intentions With Trae Young?

Verno and Jacoby are back with their first pod of 2026 as they look back at Monday’s night action, including blowout losses by the Thunder and Knicks and Kevin Durant beating his old team, and debate whether the Clippers are starting to turn it around. Next, the guys ask three questions each to start the new year. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:22) Thunder lose second straight, get blown out by Hornets (12:38) Kevin Durant hits the game-winning 3 as the Rockets beat Suns (16:20) Depleted Nuggets survive vs. Sixers (26:50) Clippers win a wild one vs. Warriors (33:12) Pistons completely embarrass the Knicks (38:25) Trae Young and the Hawks working on a trade (49:14) Verno and Jacoby's questions no. 1 (58:14) Verno and Jacoby's questions no. 2 (01:09:11) Verno and Jacoby's questions no. 3 Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Thunder Humbled, Knicks Embarrassed, Edgecombe Madness, and Six Questions to Start 2026

Verno and Jacoby return with the last episode of 2025 as they recap the action from Monday night, including Nikola Jokic’s injury (ESPN’s Shams Charania reported after the recording that Jokic has been diagnosed with a hyperextension in his left knee and will miss at least the next four weeks), the Raptors getting it done by committee against the Warriors and Magic, the Cavs getting back on track against the Spurs, Deni Avdija’s continued success for the Blazers, and how the Mavs are handling Cooper Flagg's development. Next, the guys give out their predictions for 2026. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:26) Nuggets fall to the Heat after Nikola Jokic goes down with injury (05:30) Raptors bounce back after losing to the Wizards with comeback wins against the Warriors and Magic (12:51) Cavs end two-game skid with win over Spurs in San Antonio (16:34) Deni Avdija continues his quietly great season in Blazers win against Mavs (18:53) Will Cooper Flagg ever play with Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving? (24:45) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 1 (37:13) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 2 (41:44) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 3 (51:20) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 4 (58:59) Verno and Jacoby's prediction no. 5 The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Will LeBron Retire at the End of the Season? Plus, Trae’s Future, Tanking Teams, and More 2026 Predictions!

Verno and Jacoby are back to recap the full Christmas Day slate of games. They break down the incredible performances from Nikola Jokic and Anthony Edwards in the Nuggets' thrilling OT win over the Wolves, how the Spurs remain undefeated against the Thunder, the tale of two halves at Madison Square Garden, JJ Redick’s anger after the Lakers' loss to the Rockets, and how Cooper Flagg stole the show in the Mavs' loss to the Warriors. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:37) Nikola Jokic puts up a wild triple-double and outlasts Anthony Edwards and the Wolves in OT thriller (15:08) The Spurs beat the Thunder for the third time in two weeks (25:16) The Knicks overcome a 17-point deficit and defeat the Cavs (39:23) JJ Redick calls out the Lakers after loss to the Rockets (49:34) Anthony Davis is hurt, but Cooper Flagg shines in the Mavs' loss to the Warriors The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Jokic’s Video Game Triple-Double, the Broken Lakers, the Comeback Knicks, and the Spurs Beat the Thunder Yet Again

Verno and Jacoby return to break down the wild Thursday-night slate in the NBA that saw multiple one-score games and overtime finishes. After, the guys dive into their loves and loathes from the past week in the league. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (01:48) Nikola Jokic breaks record in win vs. Magic (05:09) Pelicans storm back in OT win vs. Rockets (09:18) Mavs survive Pistons in OT (14:29) The Suns escape with win against the Warriors (18:18) Lamelo Ball, Hornets spoil Trae Young’s return with win vs. Hawks (21:07) Luka’s triple-double lifts Lakers past Jazz (25:14) Blazers outlast Kings in OT (30:31) Knicks steal a win vs. Pacers(33:02) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loves of the week (36:16) Verno and Jacoby’s no. 1 loathes of the week (43:26) No. 2 loves of the week (51:13) No. 2 loathes of the week (55:42) No. 3 loves of the week (59:33) No. 3 loathes of the week The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Brian Waters Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Thursday Night's Thrillers, Hungover Knicks, and the Giannis-Target Comp

Verno and Jacoby return as they preview the NBA Cup championship between the Knicks and Spurs. They then debate whether the NBA Cup could potentially move away from Las Vegas and what the best options are for the fans to be able to go see the games in person. Next, they go through Monday night’s slate of NBA action. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:40) NBA Cup championship preview (18:16) Will the NBA Cup leave Las Vegas? (24:06) Nuggets win OT thriller vs. Rockets (32:12) Cade Cunningham shines in win vs. Celtics (35:17) Cooper Flagg makes history in loss to Jazz (40:42) Cam Spencer stays hot and Ja Morant is injured in win vs. Clippers (45:35) How the NBA Cup has affected the Giannis trade market (49:24) Kristaps Porzingis out at least two weeks with illness (52:46) Evan Mobley's calf strain and the Cavs' disappointing season so far The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Leave us a message on our Mismatch Voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez and Stefan Anderson Social: Keith Fujimoto 
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Will Vegas Lose the NBA Cup? Plus: Nuggets Outlast Rockets, Spencer Bros., and How the Cup Is Affecting the Giannis Trade Market.

Verno and KOC discuss the latest trade in the NBA as Patrick Beverly makes his way back to Los Angeles, but this time he’ll join LeBron James and the Lakers (01:05). Could this be the first step in the Lakers' attempt to move Russell Westbrook? The Thunder’s Chet Holmgren injured his foot in a pro-am game and will now miss the entire 2022-23 season, and the guys discuss how players with bodies like Chet’s are getting more frequently injured (17:43). Could the Thunder potentially make Shai Gilgeous-Alexander available? While discussing the young stars in the NBA, KOC brings up the idea of a Rising Stars Week, where young stars get a chance to shine on national TV (33:10).
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Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor
Producer: Jessie Lopez
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Reading Between the Lines of the Pat Bev Trade and the Real Impact of Chet’s Injury

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