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The Ringer

Chris Vernon and David Jacoby discuss all the news, trends, and transactions happening in the NBA. They also offer their on-court analysis, and occasionally get into heated debates.

The Mismatch

Verno and Jacoby return to react to Thursday’s playoff matchups. The Pistons stay hot, James Harden's issues continue, and the Thunder take a 2-0 series lead over the Lakers. Then, they preview Game 3 of the Knicks-76ers and Wolves-Spurs series.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

(00:36) James Harden has issues: 10 pts, 3-13 FG, 4 TO

(2:52) Cavs-Pistons: Detroit up 2-0 with 107-97 victory

(6:26) Cade Cunningham: 25 pts, 15th game of 20+ pts in playoffs

(8:48) Evan Mobley: Limited impact with 9 pts

(13:52 ) Tobias Harris: 21 pts, 7 reb, 7th game of 20+ pts in playoffs

(17:27) Lakers-Thunder: Lakers competitive early in 125-107 loss to OKC

(24:47) Lakers-Thunder: Officiating crew ruined flow of the game

(28:16) Knicks injury concerns: OG Anunoby day-to-day with hamstring strain

(35:23) Knicks' fourth-quarter lockdown: Held Sixers to 12 pts on 4-19 shooting

(40:59) Wolves - Spurs: Seven Spurs scored in double figures in blowout win

(45:28) R-A-I-D! Ant-Man 12 pts, 5-13 FG, 1-5 from the arc

(50:36) Draymond Green: An intense exchange in Charles's house

(54:57) Jaylen Brown the streamer: Who was worse, Draymond or Jaylen?

(57:58) Sunday’s draft lottery: Grizzlies have 37.2 percent chance of a top-four pick

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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Thunder Continue to Roll, Five Straight for Detroit, and OG Injury Concern

Verno and Jacoby return to react to Monday’s playoff matchups. Minnesota takes the first game in San Antonio, and the Knicks continue to click on all cylinders. Then they preview the Lakers-Thunder and Cavs-Pistons series.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:23) Wolves-Spurs: Wolves Steal game 1, Champagnie misses last-second shot

(1:37) Timberwolves with early series road victory 104-102

(3:42) Randle Double-Double: 21 pts, 10 Reb, Clutch buckets in the 4th

(11:06) Anthony Edwards Return: 18pts (8/13 FG) 4th Quarter Heroics

(13:57) Wemby 12-Block Night: Playoff Record not enough in defeat

(20:47) Wolves Shut Down Spurs Stars: Contain Wemby in Game 1

(23:43) 76ers-Knicks: New York takes game 1 with a 137-98 victory

(26:03) Brunson Dominates: 35pts, 27 in first half

(27:06) Knicks put on Clinic: 63% Fg, 51% from the Arch

(30:13) Knicks Capitalize on Sixers' 19 turnovers

(32:59) Sixers Stars Flat Effort: Maxey 13pts, George 17pts

(33:48) Cavs-Pistons: JB Bickerstaff Revenge Series

(43:42) Jaylen Brown Meltdown on Twitch

(48:03) Embiid Struggles: 14pts on 3 for 11 Shooting

(54:29) Lakers-OKC: Thunder outscored LA by 117pts in regular season sweep

(1:03:23) 2019 Draft Loyalty

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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T’Wolves Steal Game, The Knicks Blowout Tour Continues, and Can The Lakers Make Another Push?

Immediately after the Wolves put away the Nuggets, Verno and Jacoby fire up the mics to recap Thursday night’s action from the NBA playoffs.

(0:17) Welcome to The Mismatch!

(1:42) The Wolves finish off the upset over the Nuggets to advance to the second round

(16:32) The Knicks demolish the Hawks in a blowout win to advance

(26:13) The 76ers send the series back to Boston for Game 7

(46:49) Who is smiling more: Mike Malone or Steve Kerr?

(50:55) Raptors-Cavaliers preview

(55:51) Magic-Pistons preview

(1:00:14) Rockets-Lakers preview

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Brian Waters and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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Knicks and Wolves Advance, While the Sixers Force Game 7!

Verno and Jacoby return to react to Monday’s playoff matchup, including the Magic taking a 3-1 lead over the Pistons and the Thunder advancing to the 2nd round. Then, they discuss how the Nuggets force a game 7, the Knicks looking to take a 3-2 lead, and the confusion of the Raptors-Cavs and Rockets-Lakers matchups.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:23) Pistons-Magic: Jamal Cain’s dunk is one of the best in Playoff History

(1:57) Magic beat the Pistons, Pistons on the ropes down 3-1

(8:47) Jamal Cain makes a name for himself with a "forever dunk”

(13:49) Thunder sweep Suns, 12-0 over the past 3 seasons in the first round.

(20:30) Wolves-Nuggets: Injuries will make it tough for Wolves to win series

(26:56) 76ers-Celtics: Boston leads series 3-1, Joel Embiid back, Tatum in elite form

(34:27) Hawks-Knicks: Series tied 2-2, KAT is the ‘Missing Piece’ for success 

(39:11) Blazers-spurs: SA leads series 3-1, Wemby good to go after concussion

(45:41) Raptors-Cavs: Series tied 2-2, the NBA is really going to make us watch this matchup

(51:26) Rockets-Lakers: LA leads series 3-1, Matchup is bad basketball

(57:28) Cooper Flagg wins ‘Rookie of the Year’ Award over Kon Knueppel.

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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Pistons on The Ropes, Thunder Sweep, and Nuggets Force A Game 6

Clichés are clichés for a reason. Jacoby and Verno fire up the mics after all three home teams won on Thursday night.

(:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:24) Three Game 3s before Wolves-Nuggets Finish

(1:55) McDaniels 9-of-13 Shooting, Jokic Hasn't Looked Like The Best Player

(10:54) Knicks-Hawks: Is the Sky Falling for NY Knicks Fans?

(16:32) Clutch Collapse: Brunson Turnover, Bridges’s Vanishing Act, and Supporting Cast Drought

(27:11) Raptors-Cavs: Barnes and Barrett 33 Points Each in Blowout

(32:04) Lakers-Rockets: Must-Win For Rockets Against Short-Handed Lakers

(39:00) Celtics-76ers: Tatum-Brown Vs. Maxey-Edgecombe in Philly

( 45:22) Spurs-Blazers: Wemby Likely Out With Concussion, Blazers Looking to Upset

(56:41) Predictions and Weekend Slate of Games: Pistons-Magic, Thunder-Suns

(1:04:03) Devin Booker Fined $35k For Criticizing Refs

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Game 3 Clichés in Full Effect as Hawks, Raptors, and Wolves Win at Home!

Verno and Jacoby return to react to Monday night’s thrillers in Denver and New York, the Cavs dominance, and preview Tuesday night’s playoff matchups. Plus, they discuss Billy Donovan stepping down as the Bulls head coach.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:45) Knicks game 2 collapse turns Hawks' CJ McCollum into a villain

(21:28) Wolves-Nuggets: Timberwolves steal game 2 in Denver

(32:10) Weekend Play-in finals were terrible

(34:28) Raptors-Cavs: Cleveland handles Toronto in game 2

(42:53) 76ers-Celtics: Sixers' horrendous start, 4-23 from three

(48:53) Blazers-Spurs: Spurs aim to take 2-0 lead on Portland

(53:55) Blazers owner being cheap, no T-shirts and two-ways allowed

(59:56) Rockets-Lakers: Two non-playoff teams in the playoffs

(1:03:31) Magic-Pistons: Detroit faces must-win after game 1 upset

(1:08:37) Breaking News: Billy Donovan steps down as Bulls coach after six seasons

(1:12:01) Jacoby takes on the red carpet of 'The Devil Wears Prada 2'

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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CJ Stuns the Garden, Minny Upsets, and Billy Donovan Out as Bulls HC

Verno and Jacoby return to react to the opening games of the play-in tournament and preview the final games on Friday. Then, they discuss the things they care about heading into the opening round of the NBA playoffs.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:30) Play-in tournament recap

(2:03) Hornets-Heat: The game was wildly entertaining

(7:06) Magic-76ers: Magic fans would rather watch Hornets-Pistons

(11:29) Warriors-Clippers: Vintage masterpiece by Steph and Green

(24:15) Blazers-Suns: Devin Booker will be front and center vs. the Warriors

(28:48) Things we care about going into the playoffs

(29:09) Things we care about: Wings vs. bigs in the Cavs-Toronto matchup

(32:34) Things we care about: What if the Cavs lose?

(38:11) Things we care about: Last run for this iteration of the Wolves

(43:05) Things we care about: Nuggets must close quick

(47:48) Things we care about: Can the Knicks run with the Hawks?

(49:43) Things we care about: The Knicks' transition defense

(53:28) Things we care about: Mitchell Robinson’s free throw shooting

(1:00:06) Things we care about: Can the Celtics' regular-season success carry into the playoffs?

(1:03:19) Things we care about: Is effort the Moneyball of the NBA?

(1:06:08) Things we care about: Who doesn’t love Tyrese Maxey?

(1:12:29) Things we care about: Small-market energy

(1:16:05) Things we care about: Battle scars

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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Play-In Madness and Things We Care About in the First Round

Verno and Jacoby return to react to the final weekend of the NBA regular season, take a look at the 2026 Play-in Tournament, and break down the playoff matchups. Then, they give their biggest surprises and disappointments from the regular season.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

01:45 Previewing the Play-in Tournament

02:28 Heat-Hornets: Heat are a tough out, Hornets are young

8:40 Blazers-Suns: Next round vs. Spurs favors the Trail Blazers

14:47 Magic-76ers: Will this be a revenge game for Philly?

18:35 Warriors-Clippers: Warriors stumbling into matchup

25:12 Knicks-Hawks: Initial thoughts for the matchup

29:06 Rockets-Lakers: Luka has to be available to beat the Rockets

34:18 Wolves-Nuggets: The underdog has been a problem for Denver in the past

39:35 Verno’s Surprises: The Spurs' huge leap from the lottery

43:10 Jacoby’s Surprises: How much better the Celtics were going into the season

46:54 Verno’s Disappointments: How reckless tanking has become in the NBA

48:39 Jacoby’s Disappointments: The NBA turning into a law firm

51:56 Verno’s Surprises: The statistical greatness of Nikola Jokić

57:55 Jacoby’s Surprises: 2025 draft class was really impactful

59:32 Verno’s Disappointments: Doc Rivers and the disaster of the Bucks

1:01:37 Jacoby’s Disappointments: NBC selling us Michael Jordan and not delivering

1:03:45 Verno’s Surprises: The Clippers recovering from their bad start

1:06:07 Jacoby’s Surprises: Clippers sending CP3 into retirement

1:13:34 Jacoby’s Disappointments: Chauncey Billups in a federal indictment

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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Play-in Previews, Plus Surprises and Disappointments from This Season

Jacoby and Verno fire up their mics immediately after the Knicks defeat the Celtics and discuss how this matchup could be one to look forward to in the playoffs.

(0:17) Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:48) Josh Hart saves the show with monster 3s in a Knicks win

(5:44) Celtics-Knicks destined to meet again in the playoffs

(12:09) Eastern Conference playoff picture still a mess

(17:21) Loves and Loathes

(19:12) Verno Loves: Cade Cunningham coming back

(23:12) Jacoby Loves: Teams at full strength for the playoffs

(25:10) Verno Loathes: First round of the West playoffs will be a dud

(30:12) Jacoby Loathes: 76ers’ Joel Embiid has surgery for appendicitis

(35:15) Verno Loves: ROY award is back and forth between Flagg and Knueppel

(37:26) Jacoby Loves: 1.4 million 10-game runs by only one player, Nikola Jokić

(41:06) Verno Loathes: “No way in hell they wanna see us” by Dillon Brooks

(47:28) Jacoby Loathes: Giannis incentivized to play because of his shoes

(51:45) Verno Loves: Kings’ Doug Christie making a tactical error instead of tanking

(57:18) Jacoby Loves: Carter Bryant guarding the big men

(1:00:21) Verno Loathes: AD upset for not getting a Pelicans tribute video

(1:03:53) Jacoby Loathes: That he loves Verno’s Masters updates

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Brian H. Waters and Jeff Shearin

Social: Keith Fujimoto

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Knicks' Huge Win Sets the Tone for Potential Collision Course with the Celtics, Plus Loves and Loathes

Verno and Jacoby return to react to last night’s matchups, including the Knicks-Hawks matchup, Victor Wembanyama’s injury, and Cooper Flagg’s legendary weekend.

Welcome to The Mismatch!

(0:34) Grizzlies tie NBA record with 29 3-pointers and still lose

(3:04) Michigan Wolverines win second national title in program history

(9:52) Knicks-Hawks: Jalen Brunson clutch in the 4th quarter

(13:59) 76ers-Spurs: Wemby leaves game with a rib contusion

(16:02) Raptors in a tight battle for the 6th seed in the Eastern Conference

(24:13) Jokic-Wemby matchup was absolute theater

(26:23) Strahinja Jokic goes viral again for altercation with fan

(31:29) More headlines: Steph’s return, AD Pranks Draymond, Flagg ROY

(39:42) Injury update: Can the Wolves hold it together without Ant? 

(44:38) Injury update: Luka going overseas for injections

(47:29) Bulls fire front office, and Billy Donovan gains power in Chicago

(51:59) NBA not the place for the “my way or the highway coaches”

(59:15) Huge week ahead of games will set the playoff stage

(1:01:40) Verno teases his Masters Weekend Updates

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

Producers: Stefan Anderson and Jeff Shearin

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Pistons on The Ropes, Thunder Sweep, and Nuggets Force A Game 6

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