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The Ringer

Chris Vernon and David Jacoby discuss all the news, trends, and transactions happening in the NBA. They also offer their on-court analysis, and occasionally get into heated debates.

The Mismatch

As we inch closer and closer to the regular season, Verno and Jacoby return with 10 questions about the upcoming season and more.

(00:00) Welcome to the Mismatch!(02:24) Question 1: Is Victor Wembanyama the fifth-best player in the NBA?(10:34) Question 2: What are your thoughts on LeBron James potentially creating a rival basketball league to compete with the NBA?(18:13) Question 3: Is it time to believe in Zion Williamson again?(25:47) Question 4: How much does Fred VanVleet’s injury change the Rockets' expectations?(35:04) Question 5: What are your favorite teams that never made the Finals?(44:51) Question 6: What are your thoughts on Kyle Lowry joining Prime Video’s NBA coverage as an active player?(49:05) Question 7: Who is the most surprising free agent still available?(56:57) Question 8: Why has Pablo Torre gone quiet on Kawhi Leonard?(01:00:50) Question 9: Which non-All-Star acquisition will be most impactful?(01:05:36) Question 10: What have you been watching on TV?

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David JacobyProducer: Jessie LopezSocial: Keith Fujimoto
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The Wemby Debate, Zion's Revival, Houston’s Hopes, and LeBron’s Leverage

Verno and Jacoby are back as they continue to discuss the evolving story about Kawhi Leonard, Steve Ballmer, and Aspiration. Also, they detail how commissioner Adam Silver has mishandled the Clippers situation and his backtracking comments after calling the NBA a "highlights-based sport." Next, they discuss the latest with Jonathan Kuminga and debate whether he’ll start the season with the Warriors or somewhere else before shifting their attention to the latest war of words between Patrick Beverley and Trae Young. The guys finish out the episode with some rapid-fire news from around the league.

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(00:48) Even more evidence surrounding Kawhi Leonard, Steve Ballmer, and Aspiration(18:15) Adam Silver on the Clippers mess and backtracking his "highlights" league comments(24:36) Latest on Jonathan Kuminga(35:58) Patrick Beverley vs. Trae Young(46:19) Confidence level of an in-shape Joel Embiid with the Sixers(48:09) Michael Malone full time at ESPN(49:05) NBC is placing sideline reporters closer to team benches(52:39) Should the Knicks retire Carmelo Anthony’s number?(56:30) How many movies do you think you’ve seen 10 times?

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Adam Silver’s Tough Week, Trae Young Claps Back, and What to Do With Jonathan Kuminga

Verno and Jacoby return with 10 questions about the NBA Hall of Fame, Kawhi Leonard, biggest disappointments, the NFL, and more!

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(01:30) Question 1: Thoughts on the Kawhi Leonard, Steve Ballmer, Aspiration mess(16:00) Question 2: Are you watching EuroBasket?(19:15) Question 3: First thing you think of when mentioning Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard(33:15) Question 4: Which projected contending NBA team do you think will be a disappointment?(40:15) Question 5: Three players that would be hardest to root for if they played for your team(44:08) Question 6: What is the new Nike school in Memphis?(52:03) Question 7: Favorite movie or show you’ve enjoyed during the offseason(01:00:38) Question 8: What is something small that bothers you about the NBA?(01:03:47) Question 9: Do you care about the new All-Star format?(01:09:05) Question 10: Biggest takeaway from Week 1 in the NFL

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Kawhi’s "Carbon Footprint," Hardest Players to Root For, Offseason Enjoyments, and NFL Takeaways

Verno and Jacoby return with five questions each about the upcoming season.

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(00:52) Most exciting players to watch(14:50) Did last year’s terrible All-Star Game actually save the All-Star Game?(19:40) Who is the NBA’s Tommy Fleetwood? (Player that everyone would love to see win)(26:42) Which team are you not sold on that's expected to be good?(34:03) Which team has the best chance to become this season's Pistons?(38:40) Is it time to do something about the abundance of 3-point shooting?(47:04) Favorite New York sporting events(50:44) Learning more about Strahinja Jokic(55:28) Which video games were you best at?(01:03:19) Jacoby’s most contentious opinion

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The Most Exciting Players, All-Star Game Improvements, and the Summer of Strahinja Continues

Verno and Jacoby briefly go through some of the meaningless news around the league before Verno reads a message from a listener about a special sighting on one of the islands of Hawaii. Next, the guys come up with 10 different scenarios for the upcoming season and debate which would be the more likely outcome.

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(01:04) Meaningless news(07:28) Strahinja Jokic sighting in Hawaii(14:57) Which is more likely: LeBron has played in his last NBA Finals, that Steph has, or that KD has?(20:12) Which is more likely: Wemby or Jalen Brunson is top five in MVP voting?(26:39) Which is more likely: Zion plays 65-plus games, or MPJ leads the league in scoring?(30:32) Which is more likely: Grizzlies or Mavs hit the over on 40.5 wins?(35:00) Which is more likely: Celtics, Bucks, or Pacers make the playoffs?(40:45) Which is more likely: Joel Embiid misses the season, or the Labubus that Verno bought Jacoby’s kids are fake?(51:40) Which is more likely: Malik Beasley or Michael Malone is on an NBA bench by the All-Star break?(57:19) Which is more likely: Deandre Ayton enters the All-Star conversation, or LeBron gets traded?(59:52) Which is more likely: Jacoby scores 25-plus in a men’s league game, or an NBA player scores 80 in a game?(01:01:44) Which is more likely: Taylor and Travis get married by the end of the NFL season, or Klay and Megan get married by the end of the NBA season?

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Which Superstar Has Played in Their Last Finals? Plus, MPJ’s Erraticness, Labubus, and a Joker Brother Sighting.

After dissecting the entire 2025-26 NBA schedule, Verno and Jacoby share 10 observations they have about the national TV breakdown, Michael Jordan's role on NBC, Rivals Week, late games on the East Coast, and more.

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(01:05) Observation no. 1: National TV partners and broadcast teams(10:38) Observation no. 2: How will NBC use Michael Jordan?(14:58) Observation no. 3: Teams and players the NBA is getting behind (and the ones they aren’t)(24:57) Observation no. 4: Last-day-of-the-season matchups(26:22) Observation no. 5: NBA Rivals Week(34:04) Observation no. 6: Late-season MVP matchups(37:41) Observation no. 7: Players returning to face their old teams(47:01) Observation no. 8: 11 p.m. East Coast games(48:40) Observation no. 9: Rookie watching(52:41) Observation no. 10: The dissemination of the Eastern Conference and strengthening of the Western Conference

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10 Observations About the 2025-26 NBA Schedule

As we enter the dog days of summer, Verno and Jacoby bring 10 questions each about the upcoming NBA season. They go through everything from the recent string of contract extensions, Daryl Morey’s asterisk comments, LeBron James, Klay Thompson’s relationship with Megan Thee Stallion, Target Guy, and so much more.

(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!

(01:18) Q1: Rank the recent extensions: Bridges, Luka, and Fox

(09:20) Q2: Which team do you think you will like more than others?

(12:30) Q3: Who will be the 3-seed in the East?

(17:40) Q4: Which rookie (not Flagg) do you want to watch the most?

(19:18) Q5: Craziest prediction that probably won't happen

(22:49) Q6: Daryl Morey is ____ for saying the people put an asterisk on the bubble title

(26:54) Q7: Which is more likely for OKC: 55 or 65 wins?

(29:00) Q8: Do you think ESPN pays attention to other broadcasts?

(34:43) Q9: How will LeBron's season play out?

(40:38) Q10: Could Jacoby's twins work the same job like the Thompson twins?

(46:41) Q11: Will Joel Embiid ever be Joel Embiid again?

(47:01) Q12: Which team in the West do you think will not be as good as people think?

(49:18) Q13: Will Klay and Megan Thee Stallion last until the end of the season?

(53:09) Q14: Which player do you want to see in person that you have not?

(54:39) Q15: Will the Blazers make the play-in?

(01:00:49) Q16: Who would you take the gamble on: Zion Williamson or LaMelo Ball?

(01:02:44) Q17: Which NBA players were the most relevant at the National Sports Collectors Convention?

(01:12:36) Q18: Who is the biggest football player in New York?

(01:14:16) Q19: Will "Target Guy" have a podcast by the end of the season

(01:15:18) Q20: Which player looks most wrong in their new uniform

(01:16:36) Issues with Verno's stay in New York

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby

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20 Questions About the Upcoming NBA Season

Verno and Jacoby discuss the new-look Luka Doncic that is featured in the latest edition of Men’s Health magazine. They debate what kind of impact a healthier Luka will make on the Lakers, the topics were not discussed in the article, as well as his surprise appearance at a Yankees game. Next, they take a deep dive on Nikola Jokic’s agent's cryptic photo with LeBron James and Maverick Carter, Verno explains why he expects a big bounce-back season from Ja Morant, and they debate where the remaining restricted free agents could possibly land. After, they discuss Billy Donovan’s contract extension with the Bulls, the anonymous Nets executive who says Michael Porter Jr. could lead the league in scoring next season, and Verno shares his experience staying at Jacoby’s apartment when he visited New York.

(0:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(2:15) Luka Dončić 2.0 Has Entered the Chat(17:40) Reaction to Jokic's Winning Horse(18:35) Breaking: Jokic's Brother is the GM of KK Joker(23:40) Reaction to Jokic's Winning Horse(25:40) LeBron and Maverick Carter's Yacht Meeting(33:15) Ja Morant's Nike World Tour(41:20) Restricted Free Agents Still Unsigned(50:05) Billy Donovan's Extension(54:00) MPJ "Might lead league in scoring" - Nets Executive(56:15) LaMelo Hot Cheeto Feet(58:50) Tyrese Haliburton's Proposal at Iowa St.(1:01:30) Verno's NYC Trip(1:24:05) Thanks for Watching!

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NBA Summer Storylines: A Motivated Luka, Ja’s Joy, and Is LeBron Really Planning for 2026?

Verno and Jacoby congratulate the Charlotte Hornets on winning this year’s Summer League and briefly discuss why Nikola Jokic’s brother was still in Las Vegas watching a random game between the Grizzlies and Clippers. Next, the guys each share two teams that they want to see more of and less of after watching all of Summer League. Lastly, they discuss Chris Paul’s possible last run in a return to the Clippers, Marcus Smart signing with the Lakers, and Damian Lillard’s homecoming.

(0:00) Welcome To The Mismatch!(0:20) Kon Knueppel Leads Hornets Winning Summer League(2:15) Was Jokic's Brother Looking for Verno?(8:22) Teams We Want To See MORE(9:45) Verno: Utah Jazz(14:25) Jacoby: Atlanta Hawks(18:05) Verno: Charlotte Hornets(28:05) Jacoby: Dallas Mavericks(36:55) Teams We Want To See LESS(37:10) Verno: Miami Heat(41:55) Jacoby: Sacramento Kings(44:05) Verno: New Orleans Pelicans(48:35) Jacoby: Toronto Raptors(51:15) Chris Paul Returns To The Clippers!(57:00) Marcus Smart Signs with The Lakers(58:30) Dame Returns to Portland(1:03:20) Verno's Going to NYC

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Post-Summer League Watch List: Teams That Deserve Our Attention (and Those That Don’t)

Verno and Jacoby recap this weekend’s action and buzz around Summer League. Verno shares the slights and sounds of being in Las Vegas for the event, from the vibes around Thomas & Mack Center, to watching Kelly Clarkson, and finding the elusive “Target guy” who predicted Cedric Coward will become the best player in this draft class. Next, the guys each share three players who impressed them over the weekend at Summer League. Then, the guys briefly discuss some of the news around the league including what the Lakers will do with LeBron James, Paul George’s latest surgery, Wemby's return, and more. 

(0:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!(0:25) Verno's Summer League Takeaways(5:05) Verno Met Jokic's Brother(10:05) Verno's Summer League Takeaways(18:15) Target Guy Met Verno In Vegas (Cedric Coward Prophet)(30:28) Verno's Summer League Takeaways(35:40) Favorite Summer League Player: Joan Beringer(42:00) Favorite Summer League Player: Tre Johnson(47:08) Favorite Summer League Player: Kyle Filipowski(52:00) Favorite Summer League Player: Drew Timme(54:40) Favorite Summer League Player: Ron Holland(57:50) Favorite Summer League Player: Yang Hansen(1:02:30) Reaction to The LeBron Drama(1:04:20) Joel Embiid + Paul George Health Updates(1:06:35) Wemby's Back to Training(1:09:10) MPJ: "Well, I'm Traded."(1;11:00) Love Island Finale Reaction

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Hosts: Chris Vernon and David JacobyProducers: Jessie Lopez and Tucker TashjianSocial: Keith Fujimoto
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Impressive Summer League Performances and the Legend of ‘Target Guy’

Verno and KOC open the show by discussing Thursday's NBA Finals rematch between the Warriors and Celtics (01:16), which they agree had a playoff-like atmosphere. While discussing the game in Paris between the Bulls and Pistons, the guys talk about how the NBA has been promoting top prospect Victor Wembanyama, and how the league can attract a younger audience (12:28). After seeing the Cavs in person, Verno shares why he is a believer (25:35). Also, the guys discuss the latest round of injuries with Mitchell Robinson and Christian Wood (44:12). They end the show by discussing the debut of KOC’s NBA Draft Guide (59:41).
Check out KOC’s NBA Draft Guide for all the latest prospect rankings!
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Celtics-Warriors Takeaways, Plus Cavs Love, Luka’s Demands, and the Hot Heat

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