Ep. 217: Mark Kurlansky on Saving Salmon

Steven Rinella talks with Mark Kurlansky, Phil Taylor, and Janis Putelis.

Topics discussed: Mark being a lifelong fisherman; fisheries and over fishing as only minor problems by comparison; how salmon get hit by everything we do wrong; the 11-foot-high jump of the salmon; Francisco Franco, dictator of Spain and dedicated fly fisherman; the Atlantic Ocean's decreasing carrying capacity; why catch it if you're going to release it?; calibrating the success of salmon stock recovery to population numbers from centuries ago; environmentalists spending too much time trying to stop things rather than fix things; subject as a proxy for your soapbox issue; the problem with solutions; New Deal dam building; dumbed down wild salmon; celebrating the completion of your 33rd book (Salmon: A Fish, the Earth, and the History of Their Common Fate) by beginning to write your 34th book; and more.

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