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The Ringer

Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.

The Dave Chang Show

(00:00) Dave opens the episode by shucking oysters and making a specialty: kimchi consommé (2:07)! He then talks about his recent trip to Europe and eating his way through Copenhagen and Bath with his family (22:42). Copenhagen and its food scenes have matured a lot; maybe so has Dave. (40:46) He finishes with a MOIF on the important things: Batman, airplane food, and samples.

Get the oyster shucking knife Dave is using: https://amzn.to/4lwr9Y4 

Listen to our episode with Chef Ari Kolender: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-dave-chang-show/2025/02/20/the-fundamentals-of-oysters-with-found-oysters-ari-kolender 

Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/ 

Listen to our episode with Chef Marco Canora: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4HEeArPj4KXL46B2uETTyA?si=o-7dJod-TRawT5yTeUYUkw 

Learn more about Benton’s Country Ham: https://www.bentonscountryham.com/ 

Learn more about Joe Beef: https://joebeef.com/ 

Learn more about Cumulus: https://www.cumulusinc.com.au/ 

Learn more about Jongga x San Ho Won Kimchi: https://jonggaglobal.com/jg/gourmet 

Watch our recent episode with Chef Edward Lee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMsRnrrYL_M 

Learn more about El Bulli: https://elbullifoundation.com/elbulli1846/en/ 

Learn more about Noma: https://noma.dk/ 

Learn more about Tivoli Gardens: https://www.tivoli.dk/?&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=gmb&utm_content=website_button 

Learn more about Bar Vitrine: https://us.framacph.com/blogs/stores/bar-vitrine 

Learn more about Akme: https://www.akme.dk/ 

Learn more about Florilege: https://www.aoyama-florilege.jp/en/ 

Learn more about Quintessence: https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/tokyo-region/tokyo/restaurant/quintessence-1193907 

Learn more about Popl: https://poplburger.com/ 

Learn more about Scarr’s pizza: https://www.scarrspizza.com/ 

Learn more about Ceres NYC: https://www.instagram.com/ceres.nyc/ 

Learn more about Fini Pizza: https://www.finipizza.com/ 

Learn more about L’Industrie Pizza: https://www.lindustriebk.com/ 

Learn more about Carbone: https://carbonenewyork.com/ 

Learn more about Diamond Slice: https://www.diamondslice.dk/ 

Learn more about Green Street Bath: https://www.greenstreetbath.com/ 

Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveFormor askdave@majordomomedia.com.

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Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez
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Shucking Oysters and a European Vacation

Dinner Time Live is back! (00:05) Dave starts by making an iconic DTL dessert, (14:06) and is then joined by culinary producers Andrew Miller and Marc Johnson for a Pre-Opening Diaries segment to talk about the process and behind-the-scenes of Dinner Time Live. (46:34) Dave ends with a quick and delicious corn soup.

Catch Dinner Time Live with David Chang on Netflix, Tuesdays at 4 p.m. PT/7 p.m. ET!

Follow Dinner Time Live on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dinnertimelive/?hl=en 

Check out the previous seasons of Dinner Time Live: https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/dinner-time-with-david-chang-live-release-date-news 

Read Home Cooking by David Chang and Priya Krishna: https://amzn.to/3JlxW9z 

Learn more about Krispy Kreme: https://www.krispykreme.com/ 

Learn more about Blue Hill Farm: https://www.bluehillfarm.com/ 

Learn more about Majordomo: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/majordomo 

Watch Dave mess up a cookie recipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CvoT36bjXQ 

Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Fable Cookware: us.fable.com

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Guests: Andrew Miller and Marc Johnson

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez
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Dinner Time Live Season 3: Pre-Opening Diaries

Dave has an open and vulnerable conversation with a legendary Chicago restaurateur, Donnie Madia of One Off Hospitality, who is passionate about Chicago, hospitality, and his style. To prepare for such a Chicago legend, Dave makes a true Chicago hot dog. After his interview, Dave answers a hot-dog-themed Ask Dave, and he finishes by trying a new recipe for tavern-style pizza ... with unusual results.

Learn more about Donnie Madia: https://www.oneoffhospitality.com/donnie 

Learn more about One Off Hospitality: https://www.oneoffhospitality.com

Check out Dave’s Welcome Conference Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4kJY3nAvh0 

Listen to our episode on The Bear S1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4hUOyL6WaSIbeKF25rIPWI?si=xzk5EBVPR_ue4EvbDvQLMw 

Listen to our episode on The Bear S2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/59pVhs4GLIbrtezVy9wenP?si=sHAD4SWBSjW1oIznGEriCQ 

Listen to our episode on The Bear S3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7FFvpo3oooNQ0vSRyz4yxP?si=kz7IRuUPSNuIG_hvKIOhyg 

Listen to our episode on The Bear S4 Pt. 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/00Wwi1e4cTH7sAYmXjeN7q?si=gzGPs3N4QhS3np9_hH6coA 

Learn more about Mr. Beef: https://www.theoriginalmrbeef.com

Learn more about Le Bouchon: https://www.lebouchonofchicago.com

Learn more about Chez Panisse: https://www.chezpanisse.com

Learn more about Avec: https://www.avecrestaurant.com

Learn more about Big Star: https://www.bigstarchicago.com

Learn more about Publican: https://www.thepublicanrestaurant.com 

Listen to our episode with Will Guidara: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0lvhWaXu8JvWxuJlqCsIli?si=H7OSDWjwTwGUdYbUrXt7vg 

Learn more about Mozza: https://www.pizzeriamozza.com 

Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/los-angeles

Learn more about Bianco: https://giordanos.com

Learn more about Gene and Jude’s: https://www.geneandjudes.com 

Learn more about Jimmy’s Red Hots: https://www.jimmysredhotschicago.com 

Learn more about the LA event for Alex’s Lemonade Stand: https://www.alexslemonade.org/campaign/la-loves-alexs-lemonade 

Watch The Bear here: https://www.hulu.com/series/05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f 

Watch The Great Outdoors here: https://www.netflix.com/title/559621?source=35&fromWatch=true 

Learn more about The Fat Duck: thefatduck.co.uk 

Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com.

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Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Donnie Madia

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez
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Chicago: Hospitality, Hot Dogs, and Pizza With Donnie Madia

Dave makes Snickerdoodles as their name implies: with Snickers. He then brings the...interesting... results to an interview with Samin Nosrat, author of Salt Fat Acid Heat and new cookbook Good Things, and her co-host of Home Cooking and host of Song Exploder, Hrishikesh Hirway, where the trio discusses successful partnerships, perfectionism, and what the future of creative endeavors looks like. Dave finishes with a home food hack: how to make a delicious and dazzling dumpling skirt.

Dave also announces the inaugural Ask Dave prize package winner. Send yours in for a chance to win!

Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com.

Learn more about Samin: https://ciaosamin.com/

Learn more about Hrishikesh: https://hrishikesh.co/

Follow Samin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ciaosamin/?hl=en

Follow Hrishikesh on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hrishihirway/

Learn more about Samin’s upcoming tour stops: https://ciaosamin.com/appearances

Check out Samin's new book Good Things: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Things-Recipes-Rituals-Cookbook/dp/1984857789?&linkCode=sl1&tag=majordomotv-20&linkId=93c3c814fceac98da6ed148e9a0e2885&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Check out Samin's new Substack, A Grain of Salt here: https://ciaosamin.substack.com/

Check out the Home Cooking podcast: https://homecooking.show/

Check out Hrishikesh on Recipe Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECn7sAhFsM

Check out the Song Exploder podcast: https://songexploder.net/

Check out Hrishikesh's Netflix show Song Exploder: https://www.netflix.com/title/80992997

Check out Samin's Netflix show Salt Fat Acid Heat: https://www.netflix.com/title/80198288

Check out Hrishikesh on Recipe Club: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECn7sAhFsM 

Check out GoodBoyNoah’s Snickerdoodles recipe: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDX07Uwp0gc/?hl=en 

Learn more about Hillstone Restaurant Group: https://hillstone.com/ 

Learn more about Bibigo Mandu: https://www.bibigousa.com/collections/dumplings

Read The New Yorker profile on Momofuku Ssam Bar: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/10/16/momofuku-ssam-bar 

Learn more about Benton’s Ham: https://www.bentonscountryham.com/

Read the Kyle Chayka article Samin and Hrishikesh mention: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/jan/16/the-tyranny-of-the-algorithm-why-every-coffee-shop-looks-the-same

Learn more about Kismet: https://www.kismetla.com/

Learn more about Calif Chicken Cafe: https://www.califchickencafe.com/ 

Learn more about Sarah Kieffer’s pan-banging cookie: https://www.thevanillabeanblog.com/pan-banging-chocolate-chip-cookies/ 

Learn more about the coconut water soup stock recipe Samin mentions: https://food52.com/recipes/78595-yi-jun-loh-s-one-pot-coconut-water-abc-soup?srsltid=AfmBOorwKoG734T0MjFc6sn5fnE23snRZiM4nHUxMzP2St5iNFh2hMiP

Learn more about Samin testing her coffee: https://ciaosamin.substack.com/p/some-notes-on-cold-brew-coffee-testing 

Learn more about the book Hrishikesh mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-Walter-Murch-Editing-Film/dp/0375709827?&linkCode=sl1&tag=majordomotv-20&linkId=0fc3ede5b2d6402a7d33b4ac3b079157&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Watch Hrishikesh talk about the poem One Art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylcxKnn32D0 

Learn more about Asian Legend Toronto, which inspired the mandu lattice tip: https://www.asianlegend.ca/home.php

Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow.

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Host: Dave Chang

Guests: Samin Nosrat and Hrishikesh Hirway

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer and Kelsey Rearden 

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez
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Cooking, Music, and Creativity With Samin Nosrat and Hrishikesh Hirway

Dave recounts a fly-fishing trip to Mexico, where he encountered the fish that now haunts his dreams. He reflects on how the experience is less about catching fish and more about testing fate, and what it means to release not just the fish, but your own power. He wraps up with an Ask Dave segment about a dinner reservation quandary.

Check out RA Beattie's films: https://www.youtube.com/@offthegridstudios

Check out West Bank Anglers: https://westbankanglers.com/

Learn more about Blacksmith Lodge: https://www.blacksmithlodge.com/

Learn more about 3 Bird Clothing: https://3bird.com/

Learn more about Alinea: https://www.alinearestaurant.com/

Learn more about Aviary: https://www.theaviary.com/

Learn more about El Bulli: https://elbullifoundation.com/elbulli1846/en/

Learn more about The French Laundry: https://thomaskeller.com/tfl/

Learn more about Tock: https://www.exploretock.com/

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Host: Dave Chang

Guests: RA Beattie and Mike Dawes

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer and Kelsey Rearden 

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez
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Catching Fish, Releasing Control With RA Beattie and Mike Dawes

Have you been seeing protein everywhere? So has Dave. Dave talks about fad diets and his own experiences with nutrition and weight. He then interviews Dr. Michael Ormsbee, protein expert and director of FSU Institute of Sports Sciences and Medicine, to get all the answers on the craze and what you should or should not be eating regarding collagen and protein. Dave finishes with an open conversation about the importance of having open conversations.

Learn more about Professor Orsmbee:

Follow Professor Ormsbee on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeormsbee/?hl=en

Learn more about Florida State's Institute of Sports Science and Medicine (FSU ISSM): https://annescollege.fsu.edu/resources/institute-sports-sciences-and-medicine

Follow FSU ISSM on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fsuissm/?hl=en

Learn more about the Vox article Dave mentions on South Korea's residents getting taller: https://www.vox.com/videos/2023/2/23/23611947/world-south-koreans-people-getting-taller

Learn more about Bella Ma's butter eating videos: https://www.youtube.com/@SteakandButterGal

Learn more about the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHanes): https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nhanes/index.html

Learn more about MyPlate: https://www.myplate.gov/

Learn more about the FSU ISSM Courses:

https://www.amazon.com/Changing-Body-Composition-through-Exercise/dp/1629972789

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Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow.

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Host: Dave Chang

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Protein With Dr. Michael Ormsbee

In this mailbag episode, Dave answers a variety of "Ask Dave" questions sent in by DCS listeners like you. From questions on top food vacation spots to his favorite 'Chef's Table' episode, Dave has plenty of recommendations to share. He also answers questions about lessons he wants to pass along to his kids, as well as kitchen topics like what chefs like to collect, hand washing, and more. Keep sending in "Ask Dave" questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com to get your answers on the podcast AND be entered for a prize. A winner for the first prize will be coming soon...

Learn more about Netflix Chef’s Table: https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945?source=35&fromWatch=true 

Learn more about Noma: https://noma.dk/ 

Learn more about Netflix Chef’s Table: Pizza: https://www.netflix.com/title/81292981 

Learn more about Pizzeria Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/los-angeles 

Learn more about the Kunz spoon: https://www.jbprince.com/products/gray-kunz-sauce-spoon?srsltid=AfmBOopD4Vuw4odXWrEsQkDmCxRpzNHpMbRTx0vPmI1JV0MAP0xqv9l- 

Learn more about Bernaurdaud ceramics: https://www.bernardaud.com/en/us?srsltid=AfmBOoqNEAkz9ynVE4fvG0GhGEDVDUZRIup3164wvO26BIPa2f6ZPQwg 

Learn more about Central: https://centralrestaurante.com.pe/en/ 

Learn more about Per Se: https://thomaskeller.com/perseny/ 

Learn more about Arpege: https://www.alain-passard.com/en/ 

Watch the “As the Meat Turns” episode of Ugly Delicious: https://www.netflix.com/title/80170368 

Learn more about Alinea: https://www.thealineagroup.com/ 

Listen to our seafood episode with Ari Kolender of Found Oyster: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Onz2RWEFBNpNI8A3t50mE?si=7PsWHbdWSOq9egTdkqnCOA 

Learn more about Tommy’s Burger: https://originaltommys.com/ 

Watch our episode with Chef Edward Lee: https://youtu.be/lMsRnrrYL_M 

Watch our episode with Chef Roy Choi: https://youtu.be/C0QSNhSQfkY 

Learn more about Musso & Frank: https://mussoandfrank.com/ 

Learn more about Stretch pizza: https://www.stretchpizzanyc.com/ 

Learn more about Athletic: https://athleticbrewing.com/ 

Learn more about Gymkhana: https://gymkhanalondon.com/ 

Learn more about The Next Thing You Eat: https://press.hulu.com/shows/the-next-thing-you-eat/ 

Learn more about Nobu: https://noburestaurants.com/ 

Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com.

Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow.

Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial.

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Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Stefano Sanchez
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An 'Ask Dave' Mailbag

Dave and Chris discuss the cycles of certain food items that transition from heroes to villains and back again. In a follow-up to their interview with Selina Wang, they are then joined by Dr. Cate Shanahan, a key figure in the anti–seed oil movement, to learn more about her perspective on this contentious issue. Dave and Chris then discuss how allergies are handled in restaurants in an Ask Dave.

Learn more about Dr. Cate: https://drcate.com/.

Listen to our episode with Selina Wang on seed oils: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0AVxWM4XSvOXmCoGm2narI?si=5akUnrLCRmmS13TcDSGvrg.

Listen to the Revisionist History podcast on McDonald's fries: https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/mcdonalds-broke-my-heart.

Send in your Ask Dave questions to http://bit.ly/AskDaveForm or askdave@majordomomedia.com.

Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow.

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Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying

Guest: Dr. Cate Shanahan

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Cameron Dinwiddie
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Seed Oils Part 2, With Dr. Cate Shanahan

Dave talks about the next food trend on his 25 for 25 list: small plates. He then recaps his recent trip to London and discusses two very different yet incredible meals he had, highlighting the differences between British and American dining. Dave finishes with an Ask Dave about eating in your car.

Learn more about Charlie Trotter’s: https://www.charlie-trotters.com/

Learn more about McSorley’s Old Ale House: https://mcsorleysoldalehouse.nyc/

Learn more about Old Town Bar: https://oldtownbarnyc.com/

Learn more about The Clerk & Well: https://www.theclerkandwellpub.co.uk/

Learn more about Publican: https://www.thepublicanrestaurant.com/

Learn more about St. John: https://stjohnrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Casa Mono and Bar Jamón: https://www.casamononyc.com/

Learn more about Tía Pol: https://www.tiapol.com/

Learn more about Claud: https://www.claudnyc.com/

Learn more about Penny: https://www.penny-nyc.com/

Learn more about Bar Veloce: https://winebarveloce.com/

Learn more about Yoko-cho: https://www.yokochony.com/

Learn more about Tortilla: https://www.tortilla.co.uk/

Learn more about El Bulli: http://www.elbulli.com/

Learn more about Wylie Dufresne's Stretch Pizza: https://www.stretchpizzanyc.com/

Hear Bourdain talk about St. John: https://www.tastingtable.com/1898788/anthony-bourdain-last-meal-bone-marrow/

Watch our episode with Enrique Olvera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAbfNUYUfXI

Learn more about Pujol: https://pujol.com.mx/

Learn more about Ikoyi London: https://ikoyilondon.com/

Learn more about Gymkhana: https://gymkhanalondon.com/

Learn more about Trishna: https://www.trishnalondon.com/

Learn more about Galatoire's: https://www.galatoires.com/

Learn more about Semma: https://www.semma.nyc/

Learn more about Cafe Boulud: https://cafeboulud.com/nyc/

Learn more about Lotus of Siam: https://www.lotusofsiamlv.com/

Learn more about JKS Restaurant Group: https://jksrestaurants.com/

Learn more about Major Food Group: https://www.majorfood.com/

Learn more about Tzuco: https://www.tzuco.com/

Learn more about Tatiana: https://www.tatiananyc.com/

Learn more about Kabawa: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/kabawa/menu/food

Send in your Ask Dave questions to https://forms.gle/wdPsZBXXx48Zq4vu8 or askdave@majordomomedia.com.

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Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

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London Eyes, Small Plates, Can't Lose

Dave and Chris start the episode by making PODCAST HISTORY (and avocado toast)! They then discuss knives and knife safety: one of the significant dangers in both homes and professional kitchens. Dave and Chris finish with talk of Episodes 1-5 of ‘The Bear’ Season 4—the two dive into the chefs’ reactions to bad reviews, predatory investors, the Bear employee that they think is letting the team down, and more.

Learn more about JJ’s Lone Daughter Ranch: https://www.instagram.com/jjslonedaughterranch/?hl=en 

Learn more about Bob Kramer knives: https://kramerknives.com/ 

Learn more about Korin knives: https://www.korin.com/ 

Learn more about Kappabashi Japan: https://www.kappabashi.or.jp/

Follow Little Meg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/little_meg_siu_meg/?hl=en 

Check out the Zwilling Santoku that Dave talked about: https://www.zwilling.com/us/zwilling-pro-5.5-inch-hollow-edge-santoku-knife-38408-143/38408-143-0.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqTVGfZjpzcFtDT_un1wLzxSfY_7MyBQ5ja-7RTQvPvqZvTHLSy 

Learn more about The Bear: https://www.hulu.com/series/05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f 

Watch our episode with Besha Rodell on food criticism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDExaf35qDM&t=2317s

Watch our episode with Paul Carmichael on Kabawa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gvc7ICJto&t=1s

Read the great Kabawa review in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/dining/kabawa-restaurant-review.html 

Learn more about Kabawa: https://www.instagram.com/kabawa/?hl=en

Learn more about Michelin guide: https://guide.michelin.com/en 

Watch our episode with the Anajak Thai team on wine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBhFRoT9Pgs&t=6s

Watch our episode with Will Guidara on Unreasonable Hospitality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFveotyzTA&t=3253s

Learn more about Meadowood: https://meadowood.com/dining/ 

Watch our episode with Gerrit Cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX2CV5gFz4Y

Learn more about Per Se: https://thomaskeller.com/perseny/

Learn more about Jonathan Benno's new 425 restaurant: https://www.425parkrestaurant.com/ 

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