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The Ringer

Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.

The Dave Chang Show

Dave makes Jamaican oxtails and "Chicken 66," an amalgamation of Chicken 65 and chilli chicken, for two smart guests: Lester Nare and physicist Krishna Choudhary, cohosts of one of his favorite podcasts, From First Principles.

They talk about how they began their journeys in science, formed a friendship, and found a podcast format that works for both them and the layperson listener.

They also discuss why science is important overall, Dave's unified theory of deliciousness, fresh spices versus ground, and, of course, MSG.

Check out From First Principles: https://www.ffppod.com/

Check out From First Principles' double-slit episode: https://www.ffppod.com/episodes/ep3

Read Dave's "Unified Theory of Deliciousness" article: https://www.wired.com/2016/07/chef-david-chang-on-deliciousness/

Learn more about Diamond Crystal salt: https://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/kosher-salt

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Host: Dave Chang

Guests: Lester Nare, Krishna Choudary

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Oxtails, "Chicken 66," and Science With Krishna Choudhary, PhD, and Lester Nare of the From First Principles Podcast

Dave talks about his first experiences with TV and media as a chef and how that indirectly led to Lucky Peach.

Dave then MacGyver's off-the-cuff, making a dish of succotash and spätzle, and inadvertently finding a cultural link between them and Brunswick stew.

He finishes by answering an Ask Dave about his favorite chili pepper.

Learn more about Fallow UK: https://fallowrestaurant.com/ 

Watch our episode with Chef Jeremy Fox: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hiONAYCjxCjAhK20CtWdd?si=hsiDb0NvQ4q_p0nzeqU05A 

Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/ 

Learn more about Ana Sortun's Oleana: https://www.oleanarestaurant.com/ 

Learn more about Via Carota: https://www.viacarota.com/ 

Learn more about Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/ 

Learn more about Super Peach: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/super-peach 

Learn more about Kato: https://www.katorestaurant.com/ 

Watch The Mind of a Chef: https://www.pbs.org/show/mind-chef/ 

Watch In Search of Perfection: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134897/ 

Learn more about Benton's: https://shop.bentonscountryham.com 

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Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Abby Zidonis, Marcus Yasui, Michael Delgado, Elizabeth Styles

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Succotash Meets Spätzle, Doing Media as a Chef, and Dave's Favorite Chili

Dave has returned from a lovely trip to Paris and has plenty to say about it.

He talks about where he ate, such as the incredible Maison Sota, which he thinks deserves more praise, and the great Bruno Verjus, with Bruno's unique story. Dave also discusses where he didn't get to eat, but would love to support.

Dave also talks about how Paris is changing before he answers an Ask Dave about cooking from scratch in restaurants and at home.

Learn more about Maison Sota: https://en.maison-sota.com/

Learn more about Clown Bar: https://www.clownbar.fr/

Learn more about Astrance: https://www.astranceparis.fr/

Learn more about Arpège: https://www.alain-passard.com/

Check out the Chef's Table France on Alain Passard: https://www.netflix.com/title/80128096

Learn more about Providence: https://providencela.com/

Learn more about Balthazar: https://balthazarny.com/

Learn more about Ha Noi 1988: https://www.viet-eat.com/en

Learn more about Le Duc: http://restaurantleduc.com/

Learn more about Table by Bruno Verjus: https://table.paris/

Learn more about Le Servan: https://www.leservan.fr/

Learn more about Musée National Picasso-Paris: https://www.museepicassoparis.fr/en/home-page

Learn more about Smyth: https://www.smythandtheloyalist.com/

Learn more about Asador Etxebarri: https://www.asadoretxebarri.com/en/home

Check out our most recent episode with Chef Edward Lee: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6LFn14t5qcD7M6CNbWH7OA?si=Miqz9IpjT6qhk8ocxGZsPA

Learn more about SHIA: https://shiarestaurant.org/

Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/

Learn more about St. JOHN: https://stjohnrestaurant.com/

Learn more about From First Principles podcast: https://ffppod.com/

Learn more about Combustion Inc.: https://combustion.inc/

Learn more about The Fat Duck: https://thefatduck.co.uk/

Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Dave's Trip to Paris, Great Meals He Had, and Cooking from Scratch

Dave makes an Italian Sunday dinner of braciola and red sauce for "Cousin Sal" Iacono, sports gambling enthusiast and prankster. Dave also surprises Sal with two dishes that Dave didn't make, including his favorite sandwich in Los Angeles.

The duo discusses a buffet's worth of topics, from GLP-1s to sandwiches, sports betting to why Vegas is struggling, and hot dog–eating contests.

They finish with a game of Inappropriate Dinner Conversations, which gets a little NSFW and a lot character-revealing.

Learn more about The Masters: https://www.masters.com/index.html

Learn more about Dave and Buster's: https://www.daveandbusters.com

Learn more about The French Laundry Cookbook by Thomas Keller: https://amzn.to/4aRjBMr

Learn more about White House Subs: https://www.whitehousesubshop.net/

Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: "Cousin Sal" Iacono

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Dionte Mercado, Dan McCoy, Michael Delgado, Abby Zidonis

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Italian Sunday Dinner, Betting, and Inappropriate Dinner Conversations With Cousin Sal

Dave makes an incredibly unlikely dish for him to make: a casserole.

Dave has Oscar and Emmy-winning writer/director Cord Jefferson as his guest and makes chicken divan to try to bring him back to his childhood. The duo talk their recent trip to Las Vegas together, Cord's unusual route to where he is today, and their philosophies on failure and success.

They talk about maintaining a worldly curiosity, trying new things, and how learning what you don't like can be just as important as learning what you do, then finish with a MOIF about Vegas.

Follow Cord Jefferson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cordjefferson/ 

Watch American Fiction: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23561236/ 

Watch Mind of a Chef: https://www.pbs.org/show/mind-chef/ 

Watch Ugly Delicious: https://www.netflix.com/title/80170368 

Watch Gattaca: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/ 

Learn more about the book Animal Liberation by Peter Singer: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/animal-liberation-now-peter-singer

Learn more about Buffalo Exchange: https://buffaloexchange.com/ 

Watch Survivor's Remorse: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3231022/ 

Watch Master of None: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4635276/ 

Watch The Good Place: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4955642/ 

Watch Succession: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7660850/ 

Watch Watchmen: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7049682/ 

Watch Station Eleven: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10574236/ 

Watch Cord's Oscar speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEZz2dSXS0c 

Watch Leaving Las Vegas: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113627/ 

Watch Ocean's Eleven: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/ 

Learn more about Range by David Epstein: https://davidepstein.com/range/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Cord Jefferson

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Dionte Mercado, Nikola Stanjevich, Samya McCoy, Michael Delgado

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Chicken Divan, Being Curious, and Meaningful Dishes With Cord Jefferson

Dave made a special gumbo recipe for a guest ... but got a different guest than he bargained for, and one he knows very well.

He and his new guest talk off the cuff about the differences between jambalaya and gumbo, discuss how New Orleans has the most distinct food culture of any U.S. city, and debate which city best represents the food of the South, all while acknowledging a lack of expertise.

They finish with a quick atlas of where to eat in New Orleans.

Watch 'Dinner Time Live': https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864

Learn more about Cochon: https://cochonrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Herbsaint: https://herbsaint.com/

Learn more about Cochon Butcher: https://cochonbutcher.com/

Learn more about Peche: https://www.pecherestaurant.com/

Learn more about Galatoire's: https://www.galatoires.com/

Learn more about Commander's Palace: https://www.commanderspalace.com/

Learn more about Willie Mae’s: https://williemaesnola.com/

Learn more about Domilise's: https://www.domilisespoboys.com/

Learn more about Dong Phuong Bakery: https://www.dpbakery.com/

Learn more about Bacchanal: https://www.bacchanalwine.com/

Learn more about Emeril's: https://emerilsrestaurant.com/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Chris Ying

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Michael Berger, Dionte Mercado, Elizabeth Styles, Dan McCoy, Greg Scott Davis

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Gumbo, New Orleans, and a Pop Quiz With a Surprise Familiar Guest

Dave turns a solo episode into a shabu-shabu meal with our pal Chris Ying.

They talk about the beauty of dishes like shabu-shabu, whether they like fish balls, and how Dave makes a delicious sauce for the dish.

The duo then talks about Dave's recent trip to San Francisco, Chef Corey Lee and his restaurants, and both the admiration and ire Corey causes in Dave... for being so dang good.

Learn more about Haidilao: https://www.haidilao-inc.com/us

Learn more about Benu: https://www.benusf.com/

Learn more about San Ho Won: https://www.sanhowon.com/

Learn more about The French Laundry: https://thomaskeller.com/tfl/

Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Gramercy Tavern: https://www.gramercytavern.com/

Learn more about Per Se: https://thomaskeller.com/perseny/

Learn more about Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon: https://amzn.to/46a8uMZ

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Chris Ying

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Donald LoBianco, Elizabeth Styles, Lighting Dionte Mercado 

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Shabu-Shabu, the Great Chef Corey Lee and Benu, and Chris Ying

Dave has director and filmmaker David Ma in the studio, who is known for his amazing work with food on-screen.

Dave makes an unusual pairing of delicious dishes for David: a breakfast burrito and clay pot rice. See if he can nail them both ... or neither?

The duo discusses how David Ma made the leap from advertising to filmmaking, as well as how he innovated his personal style of shooting food. They also compare notes on perfect imperfection, Japan, and craft services on film sets.

Check out David Ma's work: https://davidmafilms.com/

Follow David Ma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidwma/

Follow David Ma on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@davidwma

Follow David Ma on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dma052

Check out Food Films: https://davidmafilms.com/food-films

Watch 'Chef's Table': https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945

Learn more about Shima: https://jpneazy.com/restaurants/157

Learn more about Shinji's Bar: https://shinjisbar.com/

Learn more about Sugita: https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/tokyo-region/tokyo/restaurant/sugita

Learn more about Tokyo Banana: https://www.tokyobanana.jp/language/en/

Watch the movie 'The Godfather': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/

Watch the movie 'The Taste of Things': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19760052/

Watch the movie 'Chef': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2883512/

Watch the movie 'Diner': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083833/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: David Ma

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Michael Berger, Elizabeth Styles, Samya McCoy, Greg Scott Davis

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Breakfast Burritos, Clay Pot Rice, Filming Food, and Finding a New Angle With David Ma

Dave makes a quick snack that you might see more and more often in the coming years: dried squid.

He talks about the rising amount of cephalopods in the ocean, discusses the specific umami and texture of squid, and ponders whether it might be coming to more and more grocery store shelves near you.

He also answers an Ask Dave about London eating and general dining strategy when on a short trip in a new place.

Learn more about San Ho Won: https://www.sanhowon.com/

Learn more about St. JOHN: https://stjohnrestaurant.com/

Learn more about Trishna: http://trishnalondon.com/

Learn more about Gymkhana: https://gymkhanarestaurants.com/

Learn more about Ambassadors Clubhouse: https://ambassadorsclubhouse.com/newyork/

Learn more about Ganbara: https://www.ganbarajatetxea.com/presentation

Learn more about Seirinkan: https://theseirinkan.com/

Learn more about Savoy: https://savoy-azabujyuban.com/en

Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Nikola Stanjevich, Michael Delgado, Dan McCoy, Molly O'Keefe, Michael Berger

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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Dried Squid: The Next Big Thing (After the Next Big Thing)

Dave is joined by friend of the show and host of Recipe Club Chris Ying and producer (young) David Meyer.

Dave serves a Chinese chicken salad and some leftover jangjorim. Then the trio dives into some real Inappropriate Dinner Conversations in a new game version that reveals a lot about the three contestants.

Get a copy of Jacob Soboroff's book 'Firestorm': https://www.harpercollins.com/products/firestorm-jacob-soboroff?variant=43816964096034

Watch 'Chrissy & Dave Dine Out': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29319236/

Learn more about Joan’s on Third: https://joansonthird.com/

Follow Little Meg: https://www.instagram.com/little_meg_siu_meg/?hl=en

Learn more about the Chairman: https://www.thechairmangroup.com/

Check out 'The Original Kings of Comedy': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0236388/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Chris Ying

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Nikola Stanjevich, Dan McCoy, Michael Berger, Elizabeth Styles

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff
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