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The New York Times

This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

During an Oval Office meeting with congressional Republicans a few days ago, President Trump showed off the draft of a letter that would fire Jerome H. Powell, the chair of the Federal Reserve.

It’s the latest chapter in a dysfunctional relationship that has major implications for the global economy.

Guest: Colby Smith, who covers the Federal Reserve and the U.S. economy for The Times.

Background reading: 

 • President Trump 
waved a copy of a draft letter firing Jerome H. Powell • at a meeting in the Oval Office with House Republicans.
 • Can Trump fire Powell? 
It’s likely that he lacks a case • , legal experts say.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Tom Brenner/The New York Times

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The Most Toxic Relationship in Washington

The Academy Award-winning actress discusses her lifelong quest for connection, humanity’s innate goodness and the point of being alive.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

'The Interview': Tilda Swinton Would Like a Word With Trump About His Mother

The host of the “Call Her Daddy” podcast and founder of the Unwell Network discusses her interview with Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the 2024 election, her podcast’s journey from chatting about sex advice to delving into more serious subjects and how the Unwell Network’s fan merchandise became a eight-figure business.

“I don’t care if people consider me a journalist or a podcaster, or just a girl that talks online every week.”

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand

Syria has been controlled by one family for more than half a century who ruled by repression, devastation and violence.

But about two weeks ago, the regime began to falter, and then over the course of one night, it collapsed.

Carlotta Gall, a senior correspondent for The New York Times, discusses the fall of Bashar al-Assad and what comes next.

Guest: Carlotta Gall, a senior correspondent for The New York Times, focusing on the human aspect of wars and civil strife.

Background reading: 

 • Live updates:
 The rebels who toppled Assad face stark challenges in Syria • .
 • With Assad gone, a brutal dictatorship ends.
 But the new risks are huge • .

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Inside The Fall Of Syria’s Brutal Dictator

Last week, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare was shot and killed in Manhattan. A five-day search for the gunman ensued.

On Monday, a 26-year-old suspect, Luigi Mangione, was arrested in Pennsylvania after an employee at a McDonald’s recognized him and called the police.

Dionne Searcey, who covers wealth and corporations, and Maria Cramer, a crime reporter in New York City, break down what we know about the suspect, and what the case has revealed about many Americans’ contempt for insurance companies.

Guest: 

Dionne Searcey • , a reporter for The New York Times writing about how the choices made by people and corporations affect the future of our planet.
Maria Cramer • , a reporter for The New York Times covering the New York Police Department and crime in the city and surrounding areas.

Background reading: 

The suspect was an Ivy League tech graduate • from a prominent Maryland family who in recent months had suffered physical and psychological pain.
A visual timeline • of the UnitedHealthcare C.E.O. shooting.

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The Manhunt, the Manifesto and the Murder Charge

On Sunday, after a fire that many feared would destroy it, and a swift renovation that defied all predictions, the Cathedral of Notre-Dame reopened to the public.

Michael Kimmelman, the chief architecture critic at The Times, tells the story of the miracle on the Seine.

Guest: Michael Kimmelman, the architecture critic of The New York Times and the founder and editor-at-large of Headway.

Background reading: 

 • Critic’s Notebook:
 Notre-Dame’s astonishing rebirth from the ashes • .
 • The rebuilding took about
 250 companies, 2,000 workers, about $900 million • , a tight deadline and a lot of national pride.
See photos • from the reopening.

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Notre-Dame Rises From the Ashes

An alarming new hack by China has penetrated the nerve center of the United States: its telephone network.

David E. Sanger, the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times, discusses what the scope of the attack tells us about China’s growing power.

Guest: David E. Sanger, the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said
 hackers listened to phone calls and read texts • by exploiting aging equipment and seams in the networks that connect systems.
 • Emerging details of Chinese hack have left U.S. officials
 increasingly concerned • .

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How China Hacked America’s Phone Network

A new study has found that nearly three-quarters of American adults are now obese or overweight, and there’s growing concern — among politicians, scientists and consumers — about one potential culprit: ultraprocessed foods.

Guest: Alice Callahan, a nutrition and health reporter for The New York Times, discusses how these foods came to be such a big part of what we eat, and why that’s so hard to change. 

Background reading: 

 • There’s not enough evidence to recommend avoiding ultraprocessed foods, a scientific advisory committee says.
 Some experts disagree • .
 • Name a common condition — heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, cancer, dementia, irritable bowel syndrome — and chances are good that a diet high in
 ultraprocessed foods has been linked to it • . 

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A Turning Point for Ultraprocessed Foods

The guidebook writer and television personality reflects on his cancer diagnosis, social media’s corrosive effect on tourism and the transformative power of travel.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Rick Steves Refuses To Get Cynical About the World

“You couldn’t have made this movie three years ago,” said Robert Zemeckis, the director of “Here.”

The film stars Tom Hanks and Robin Wright, and is based on a 2014 graphic novel that takes place in a single spot in the world over several centuries. The story mostly takes place in a suburban New Jersey living room. It skips back and forth through time, but focuses on a baby-boomer couple — played by Hanks and Wright — at various stages of their lives, from age 18 into their 80s.

Before A.I. software, Zemeckis could have had multiple actors play each character, but the audience might have gotten lost trying to keep track. Conventional makeup could have taken a decade off Hanks, who is now 68, but not half a century. The issue with C.G.I. is time and money. Persuading us that we’re watching Hanks and Wright in their 20s would have required hundreds of visual effects artists, tens of millions of dollars and months of postproduction work. A.I. software, though, changed all that accounting.

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The Sunday Read: ‘What if A.I. Is Actually Good for Hollywood?’

“My life has gone rosy, again,” Alice Munro told a friend in a buoyant letter of March 1975. For Munro, who was then emerging as one of her generation’s leading writers, the previous few years had been blighted by heartbreak and upheaval: a painful separation from her husband of two decades; a retreat from British Columbia back to her native Ontario; a series of brief but bruising love affairs, in which, it seems, Munro could never quite make out the writing on the wall. “This time it’s real,” she wrote, speaking of a new romantic partner, Gerald Fremlin, the emphasis acknowledging that her friend had heard these words before. “He’s 50, free, a good man if I ever saw one, tough and gentle like in the old tire ads, and this is the big thing — grown-up.”

The judgment would prove premature. In July 2024, two months after Munro’s death at age 92, Andrea Skinner, the youngest of her three daughters, revealed in an essay in The Toronto Star that Fremlin had sexually abused her.

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The Sunday Read: ‘What Alice Munro Knew’

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