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In a new book, the writers argue that a powerful coalition of “end times fascists” is just fine with the earth’s demise.

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Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor Say the End of the World is Now on the Table

In New York City this morning, the families of those killed at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, will gather for the 25th time to honor the dead one by one.

Among those at ground zero will be an array of city officials who assured the public that it was safe to return to Lower Manhattan just weeks after the attacks.

Today, Sally Goldenberg, a reporter who covers politics and government for The New York Times, and Dana Nelson, who attended school next to ground zero, reveal the 9/11 health crisis that has now claimed more lives than the terrorist attacks themselves.

Guest: Sally Goldenberg, a reporter covering New York City politics and government for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

Documents suggest that New Yorkers were misled about air quality • after 9/11.

Photo: Chang W. Lee/The New York Times

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The Lives That 9/11 Keeps Taking

As more people in the United States use I.V.F. to have children, embryos are being stored in fertility clinics across the country. It raises the question: What should happen to those embryos if a couple breaks up?

Caroline Kitchener, who covers families for The New York Times, tells the story of Erin Millender, who took a custody battle over frozen embryos to court after her husband revoked his consent to use them.

Guest: Caroline Kitchener, a New York Times reporter, writing about the American family.

Background reading: 

 • They started I.V.F., and then split. 
Now who gets custody of the embryos • ?

Photo: Kim Raff for The New York Times

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A Couple Breaks Up. Who Gets Custody of Their Embryos?

With only weeks to go before the midterms, President Trump has asked the Supreme Court to allow his administration’s plans to restrict voting by mail.

Nick Corasaniti, who covers national politics for The New York Times, walks us through Mr. Trump’s effort, the legal battle it touched off and the uncertainty it has created for local election officials and voters around the United States.

Guest: Nick Corasaniti, a New York Times reporter covering national politics, with a focus on voting and elections.

Background reading: 

The Trump administration asked the Supreme Court again • to allow mail voting restrictions.
 • Where does the president’s 
effort to restrict mail voting stand • ?

Photo: Philip Cheung for The New York Times

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Trump’s War on Mail-In Voting

As people in the United States struggle with rising costs, they are increasingly turning to “buy now, pay later” loans for essentials such as rent and groceries.

Stacey Cowley, a business reporter for The New York Times, explains the draw and the hidden risks of the loan model.

Guest: Stacy Cowley, a business reporter at The New York Times, with a focus on consumer finance.

Background reading: 

“Buy now, pay later” • lenders have pitched loans for needs like electricity and rent.
 • They got to live a life of luxury. 
Then came the fine print • .

Photo: Amir Hamja for The New York Times

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‘Buy Now, Pay Later’: A New Wave of Consumer Debt

This week marks the start of the Gustavo Dudamel era in New York.

The superstar conductor was just 28 when he became the musical director of the Los Angeles Philharmonic in 2009. A native of Venezuela and a product of its El Sistema musical training program, Dudamel quickly established himself not just as a great conductor, but also as a cultural force of nature. In his time in Los Angeles, he expanded the Philharmonic’s repertoire, created a successful youth outreach program, won prestigious awards and ingratiated himself with Hollywood elite.

Now, after 17 years in Los Angeles, Dudamel is taking the helm at one of the world’s most famous and storied orchestras: the New York Philharmonic. It’s a job once held by Leonard Bernstein, and Dudamel is hoping to follow in Bernstein’s footsteps to make the Philharmonic and the music that it plays a bigger part of the pop culture landscape.

On today’s episode, Joshua Barone, who covers classical music for The Times, discusses Dudamel, what he’s accomplished and the high hopes for his tenure with the New York Philharmonic.

Music Featured (in order of appearance, all conducted by Gustavo Dudamel):

 • Johann Strauss, Tik-Tak Polka, Polka Schnell, Op. 365, Weiner Philharmoniker (Sony Music Entertainment)
 • Dmitri Shostakovich, Festive Overture, Op. 96, Simón Bolívar Youth Orchestra (Deutsche Grammophon)
 • Gustav Mahler, Symphony No. 5 in C-Sharp Minor IV. Adagietto, Berlin Philharmonic (Berlin Philharmonic Recordings)
 • Antonin Dvorak, Symphony No. 8 in G Major, Op. 88, B. 163, III. Allegretto grazioso- Molto vivace, Los Angeles Philharmonic (Deutsche Grammophon)
 • John Williams, “The Imperial March” (From “Star Wars: Episode V — The Empire Strikes Back”), Los Angeles Philharmonic (UMG Recordings, Inc)
 • John Adams, “En un Día de Amor Yo Bajé Hasta la Tierra,” The Gospel According to the Other Mary, Los Angeles Master Chorale and Los Angeles Philharmonic (Deutsche Grammophon)
 • Gabriela Ortiz, “Kauyumari,” Los Angeles Philharmonic (Platoon)
 • Ludwig Beethoven, Symphony No. 7 in A Major, Op. 92, IV. Allegro con brio, Simón Bolívar Youth Orchestra (Deutsche Grammophon)
 • Thomas Adès, “XII. The Thieves — devoured by reptiles,” Dante, Los Angeles Master Chorale and Los Angeles Philharmonic (Nonesuch Records)
 • Ludwig Beethoven, Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: I. Allegro con brio, Simón Bolívar Youth Orchestra (Deutsche Grammophon)
 • Ludwig Beethoven, Symphony No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 67: I. Allegro con brio, Simón Bolívar Symphony Orchestra (self-released)
 • Leonard Bernstein, “End Credits” and “The Dance at the Gym: Mambo,” from “West Side Story” (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack), Los Angeles Philharmonic and New York Philharmonic (Hollywood Records)

On Today’s Episode:

Joshua Barone is an editor for the Culture section of The New York Times who works on classical music and dance coverage. He also writes criticism about classical music and opera.

Background Reading:

Gustavo Dudamel’s Long Goodbye to L.A., and Long Hello to New York
What Makes Superstar Conductor Gustavo Dudamel So Good?

Photo Credit: James Estrin/ The New York Times

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Classical Music Is in Crisis. Gustavo Dudamel Is Here to Save It.

Gloria Steinem, the feminist icon and co-founder of Ms. magazine, died on Wednesday at her home in Manhattan. Her death came as many were still grieving the loss of another iconic woman: Dolly Parton.

On paper, the connections between the two women seem superficial, but for the Times Magazine writer Susan Dominus, the relationship between their lives and impact is inescapable.

Guest: 

Susan Dominus • , a staff writer at The New York Times Magazine.
Letty Cottin Pogrebin • , a writer and pioneer of the feminist movement who was part of the team that founded Ms. magazine with Gloria Steinem.

Background reading: 

 • In “9 to 5,” 
Dolly Parton put a friendly face on feminism • .
Gloria Steinem • , the personification of the women’s movement, died at 92.

Photo: Robin Platzer/Getty Images

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The Intertwined Legacies of Gloria Steinem and Dolly Parton

From the start, the greatest fear for those developing artificial intelligence was that their creations would go rogue to act in unauthorized and dangerous ways. Some researchers now say it has happened.

Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times, explains what this means for his own dwindling sense of techno-optimism.

Guest: Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times and a host of the Times tech podcast, “Hard Fork.”

Background reading: 

 • Anatomy of an autonomous attack: 
five alarming A.I. capabilities • .

 A previous episode of “The Daily” • looked at the debate in Silicon Valley over the right way to build artificial intelligence.

Photo: Lucas Foglia for The New York Times

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A.I. Is Outsmarting Its Creators

Over the past year, there has been an increase in violence in the West Bank. Israeli settlers have terrorized Palestinians, set fire to their property, uprooted their olive groves and stolen their animals in an effort to drive them off their land.

Rachel Abrams speaks to Loui Ridi, a Palestinian American in the West Bank, about the settlers who have arrived at his doorstep.

Guest: Loui Ridi, a Palestinian American in the West Bank.

Background reading: 

 • With the world distracted by war, 
extremist settlers have intensified their attacks • in the West Bank.

 • An 
assault by Israeli settlers • on Palestinians last week drew sharp rebukes.

Photo: Ammar Awad/Reuters

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The Fight for the West Bank

Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide.

New reporting has found that the impact of rough sea waves on rescue-boat crews in the Coast Guard can lead to long-term effects, including traumatic brain injury.

Dave Philipps, who reports about veterans for The New York Times, explains the significant blind spot in the Coast Guard and talks about how a teenager helped expose this widespread danger. 

Guest: Dave Philipps, who reports about war, the military and veterans for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Rescue-boat crews show 
signs of brain injuries • .

 • After an article by The Times, the 
Coast Guard vowed to protect crews • from brain injuries caused by rough seas.

Photo: Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

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How a Teenager Found Undiagnosed Brain Injuries in the Military

Kirill, 24, works at a nonprofit for homeless people in the Moscow region. He does not support the policies of President Vladimir V. Putin and is vehemently against the invasion of Ukraine.

After suffering setbacks in the war, Mr. Putin announced a military draft a week ago. Kirill was among those called up. As he hides out to avoid being served his papers, Kirill spoke to Sabrina Tavernise about how his life has changed.

Guest: Kirill, a 24-year-old from Moscow who is attempting to avoid the draft and who asked that only his first name be used to avoid reprisals.

Background reading: 

 • In a rare admission of official mistakes, the Kremlin has acknowledged that the military draft
 has been rife with problems • .
Resistance to the draft • has grown as villagers, activists and even some elected officials ask why the conscription drive appears to be hitting minority groups and rural areas harder than the big cities.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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