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The Daily

For weeks, fights have been escalating between top scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., culminating in his accusation that the agency’s top official, Dr. Susan Monarez, was untrustworthy.

Dr. Monarez went before a Senate committee on Wednesday to give her side of the story.

Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who covers health policy for The New York Times, discusses the testimony and the rift that the hearing exposed within the Republican Party over how far to go to support Mr. Kennedy and his vaccine agenda.

Guest: Sheryl Gay Stolberg, a correspondent based in Washington who covers health policy for The Times.

Background reading: 

The fired C.D.C. director described clashes with Mr. Kennedy and turmoil at the agency • .

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The Fired C.D.C. Director Testifies

On Tuesday, prosecutors charged the man suspected of killing Charlie Kirk with aggravated murder, vowed to seek the death penalty and released a mountain of new evidence against him.

Jack Healy, who has been covering the killing of Mr. Kirk for The New York Times, explains what the police have uncovered about his motives. Kenneth P. Vogel, an investigative reporter, discusses the emerging White House plan to use the federal government to crack down on the left-wing groups that it believes inspire political violence.

Guest:

Jack Healy • , a reporter for The New York Times who writes about the changing Western United States and its political divisions.
Kenneth P. Vogel • , a reporter based in the Washington bureau of The New York Times who investigates the intersection of money, politics and influence.

Background reading: 

The suspect in Mr. Kirk’s killing faces an aggravated murder charge • , and the death penalty.
 • President Trump has invoked Mr. Kirk’s killing in 
justifying measures to silence his opponents • .

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Plan to Turn Charlie Kirk's Murder Into a Crackdown on the Left

Warning: This episode discusses suicide.

Since ChatGPT began in 2022, it has amassed 700 million users, making it the fastest-growing consumer app ever. Reporting has shown that the chatbots have a tendency to endorse conspiratorial and mystical belief systems. For some people, conversations with the technology can deeply distort their reality.

Kashmir Hill, who covers technology and privacy for The New York Times, discusses how complicated and dangerous our relationships with chatbots can become.

Guest: Kashmir Hill, a feature writer on the business desk at The New York Times who covers technology and privacy.

Background reading: 

Here’s how chatbots can go into a delusional spiral • .
 • These people asked an A.I. chatbot questions. 
The answers distorted their views of reality • .
A teenager was suicidal, and ChatGPT was the friend he confided in • .

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Trapped in a ChatGPT Spiral

The Supreme Court has cleared the way for President Trump to remake American government, siding with the president again and again. But many of those rulings have lacked something fundamental: an explanation for why the most important judges in the country came to their decision.

Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The Times, explains the justices’ increased use of the so-called shadow docket, and why it has sown confusion — and in some cases frustration — in courts around the country.

Guest: Adam Liptak covers the Supreme Court and writes Sidebar, a column on legal developments, for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

The Supreme Court keeps ruling in Mr. Trump’s favor • , but doesn’t say why.

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The Rise of the Supreme Court’s So-Called Shadow Docket

The 77th Primetime Emmy Awards ceremony is tonight, honoring the best television shows released between June 2024 and May 2025. But before the festivities begin, Gilbert Cruz, the editor of The New York Times Book Review, would like to have a TV celebration of his own.

On today’s episode, he gathers Jason Zinoman, a critic at large for The Times, and Alexis Soloski, a culture reporter for The Times, to “channel surf” through some of their favorite shows of the past year.

On Today’s Episode:

Jason Zinoman, a critic at large for The New York Times who writes a column about comedy.

Alexis Soloski, a culture reporter for The New York Times.
 

Additional Reading:

The 9 People Who Check In to Every ‘White Lotus’

Sympathy for the Devil, er Boss: In ‘The Studio,’ the Powerful Are on Defense

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Sunday Special: TV's Big Night

The writer-director made hit after hit movie, until he didn’t. But he doesn’t let it get him down.

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theinterview@nytimes.com • Watch our show on YouTube: 
youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast • For transcripts and more, visit: 
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'The Interview': What Happened to Cameron Crowe? He Has Answers.

On Friday morning, the police in Utah said they had arrested a suspect in Charlie Kirk’s assassination, ending a manhunt that had stretched over 33 hours. In this special episode of The Daily, we break down what we know about the arrest and the alleged killer’s motives.

Background Reading:

Here’s what we know • about the suspect in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
 • Kirk’s murder has 
raised fears • of more political violence across the U.S.

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Special Episode: A Suspect Is Caught in Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

We look at the hunt for the killer of the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk and at the political fallout of his assassination.

Nicholas Bogel-Borroughs, an investigative reporter at The New York Times, discusses why the police are struggling to answer basic questions about the shooter. And Alan Feuer, who covers extremism and political violence, discusses how the assassination might become a turning point for the conservative movement.

Guest:

Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs • , an investigative reporter at The New York Times.
Alan Feuer • , a reporter covering extremism and political violence for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

The chaotic hunt • for Mr. Kirk’s killer.
 • The assassination has 
raised fears of surging political violence • .

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The Aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s Killing

Charlie Kirk, the conservative organizer, activist and media mogul, died on Wednesday after being shot during an appearance at Utah Valley University.

Mr. Kirk brought millions of young Americans in to the Republican Party, and to the ballot box for Donald Trump.

Robert Draper, who profiled Charlie Kirk for The New York Times Magazine, discusses Mr. Kirk’s improbable rise to power, his stunning assassination, and his controversial legacy.

Guest: Robert Draper, a Washington, D.C.-based journalist for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

Read the profile of Charlie Kirk • from February.
Read updates about the shooting • .

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The Assassination of Charlie Kirk

For months, President Trump has tried to dismiss questions about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, notably denying that he had been the author of a lewd birthday message to the financier and sex offender.

On Monday, Congress released the message — and many more like it.

David Enrich, a deputy investigations editor at The Times, explains how the book, and an investigation into Mr. Epstein’s finances, reveal how Mr. Epstein leveraged his rich and powerful friends to fund a yearslong criminal conspiracy.

Guest: David Enrich, a deputy investigations editor for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • A House panel 
released the drawing • for Mr. Epstein apparently signed by Mr. Trump.
 • A Times investigation found that JPMorgan 
spent years supporting — and profiting from — the notorious sex offender • , ignoring red flags, suspicious activity and concerned executives.

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Inside Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th Birthday Book

At the heart of the move to impeach President Trump is a relatively simple accusation: that he incited a violent insurrection against the government of the United States.

We look at the efforts to punish the president for the attack on the Capitol and explain what the impeachment process might look like.

Guest: Nicholas Fandos, a national reporter for The New York Times.

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Background reading: 

 • Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House would formally call on Vice President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment to strip President Trump of power and
 move to impeach the president if Mr. Pence refused • .
 • Here’s a closer look at what the president said at a rally of his supporters, which is a
 focus of the impeachment case • .

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