The Chuck ToddCast

Trump's Tariff Changes + Predicting Future of Fox News & The Murdoch EmpireFirst, Chuck reacts to President Trump’s announcement that smartphones, computers, and other electronics will be exempt from tariffs. He also previews what we can expect this week in political news, and breaks down what all these developments mean for our democracy as a whole. Then, Chuck is joined by The Atlantic staff writer McKay Coppins to discuss his latest story, “Growing Up Murdoch,” which delves into the Succession-style drama surrounding Rupert Murdoch, his children, and the future of their media empire. They examine Fox News’ enormous influence on American politics, how the network evolved during the Trump era, and how it could undergo major changes once Murdoch’s children take the reins. The conversation explores striking parallels between the Murdoch family and the Roys from HBO’s Succession, including a looming legal battle over the family trust and what it could mean for the company’s direction. McKay explains how Fox News shifted after the departure of longtime CEO Roger Ailes, while Chuck highlights how the potential loss of NFL broadcasting rights could pose an existential threat to the network. Finally, they turn to the Trump family and discuss why its own brewing succession drama might ultimately eclipse that of the Murdochs. Timeline: 00:00 Intro 02:58 Reaction to Trump’s tariff exemption of smartphones and computers 07:45 Are we entering a kleptocracy? 14:05 McKay Coppins joins Chuck 16:47 Any discussion about making Mckay’s Murdoch article into a book? 18:17 Fate of the Murdoch empire impacts the fate of American politics 19:32 Murdoch outlets impacted Trumpism, Brexit and other major events 22:47 Murdoch used to make the weather, now Trump does 26:32 It’s easier to pick a side in media rather than be a neutral observer 29:02 Did Succession have an insider account or were the Murdochs that predictable? 30:47 The Murdochs are a normal, wealthy dysfunctional family 32:17 Status of the Murdoch lawsuit? 34:47 Was Rupert Murdoch “honeypotted” by the Chinese government? 36:32 Will James and Lachlan reconcile after Rupert dies? 38:17 Rupert has pitted his kids against each other 39:32 Without Brexit and Trump, would James and Lachlan have worked better together? 41:17 James can’t stomach what Fox News became in the Trump era 42:17 Fox News went off the rails after Roger Ailes left 43:47 Ailes ruled Fox News with an iron fist 44:32 The inmates are running the asylum at Fox 46:02 If James gets his way after Rupert dies, Fox will change drastically 47:17 Fox can never go as far as Newsmax or OAN 48:32 The Fox empire was built on its current audience 50:32 James is building his own empire 52:02 Sisters are embarrassed by Fox News 52:17 NFL rights are existential for Fox and big tech can outspend them 54:17 Murdoch kids have shielded their kids from the press 55:47 WSJ + NY Post will still needle Trump 57:32 James has more interest in the media business than Lachlan 58:02 The Murdochs and Trumps have similar dynamics 59:17 Don Jr. understood the Trump base better than his father 1:00:17 Succession style drama is coming for the Trump family

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Is Trump ceding America's power to Xi Jinping & ChinaChuck Todd is joined by geopolitical expert and Eurasia Group founder Ian Bremmer to unpack the global implications of President Donald Trump’s efforts to reshape the international order. Chuck opens the episode by examining how Trump’s use of tariffs and his zero-sum approach to foreign policy are dismantling decades of established U.S. trade and diplomatic norms. Ian then joins the conversation to assess the ripple effects of Trump’s tariffs on global trade, how key U.S. allies and rivals are likely to respond, and whether China stands to benefit in the long run. He explains how Trump’s policies may be inadvertently strengthening Xi Jinping, why the U.S. is ill-equipped to operate in a “law of the jungle” environment, and what kind of economic damage could be on the horizon. The discussion turns to the rise of anti-American sentiment abroad, the erosion of the rule of law at home, and why the economic fallout may disproportionately affect red states. They then take a global tour of hotspots: debating the prospects for a renewed nuclear deal with Iran, whether Turkey has fully slipped into autocracy, and the likelihood of a Russia-Ukraine ceasefire in 2025. To wrap up the episode, Chuck answers listener questions in the "Ask Chuck" segment. Timeline 0:00 Introduction 1:00 Trump is creating a new world order 2:00 Trump has a zero-sum view of foreign policy 4:00 Could Trump break with Putin over lack of ceasefire? 6:00 Trump 2.0 and Trump 1.0 are completely different 9:00 Ian Bremmer joins the show 10:00 Has Trump broken the world economic order, or temporarily disrupted it? 11:15 Countries will begin to de-risk away from the US 13:30 Trump using emergency powers to unilaterally break international agreements 18:00 China will become dominant in the old architecture built by the U.S. 21:15 People voting for a second “Trump 1.0” and are getting something vastly different 22:30 Instability will force unity on the EU 23:30 Americans don’t understand how good we have it* 24:30 The future of power seems to lie with the autocracies and not the democracies 25:30 Is Trump throwing a lifeline to Xi Jinping? 29:30 The U.S. doesn’t have the right political system to operate in the “law of the jungle” 32:00 China’s surveillance state will check any type of middle class uprising 34:30 How different would things look if we had the TPP? 38:00 How should companies navigate the uncertainty Trump is creating? 39:30 Products from China are already becoming unavailable 41:00 Companies are all lobbying for exemptions 42:00 The hit to the US economy is going to be massive 44:20 The rise of anti-American sentiment 45:45 The first amendment only applies to citizens now? 46:45 The hit to American tourism will be substantial 48:00 Economic damage will hit red states the hardest 49:30 Mexican government has been willing to cooperate 51:45 Trump wants to cut a deal with Iran, even if it makes Israel unhappy 54:20 Will Erdogan get away with smashing democracy in Turkey? 56:15 What to make of the political turmoil in South Korea? 58:00 Will Bolsanaro/Le Pen have their charges stick, or could they win office in the future? 1:00:30 Biggest risks to the world? Is Trump at the top of that list? 1:02:30 Will the Ukraine/Russia war achieve a ceasefire this year? 1:06:20 Ask Chuck 1:06:40 What books do you assign your class to best understand this political moment? 1:12:00 Are we in a competitive autocracy similar to Erdogan’s Turkey? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements)

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