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The Bulwark

Tim Miller and guests discuss the latest political news for the flagship podcast of the Never Trump movement and the reality-based community. Every weekday we provide insightful analysis, political hot-takes, an unabashed defense of liberal democracy and long-form interviews that cut through the "both-sides" BS. Plus a few laughs to help you wash down the crazy.

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The Bulwark Podcast

Fox News wouldn't shut up about Hunter and Burisma, but its viewers aren't likely to hear any criticism of Eric and Don Jr. raking it in through government contracts approved by the Trump administration. Unlike in Hunter's case, the U.S. government is paying millions of dollars to the president's sons. Plus, Trump is losing the information war on Iran, Bibi is oddly chummy with Putin—given his alliance with Israel's enemy Iran, the nation's debt is larger than our GDP, the governor of Louisiana is outright assaulting democracy, and Kinzinger explains why we need to celebrate heroes. Adam Kinzinger joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. 

show notes

Preorder Kinzinger's new children’s book, “That's What Heroes Do"
Kinzinger's Substack
FT story on the Trump sons/Kazakhistan company deal
WSJ story on Trump sons/drone company deal
Tim's playlist
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Adam Kinzinger: The First Family's Corruption Is Mind-Blowing

The bombshell voting rights ruling from the Supreme Court may have been years in the making, but Ossoff sees a tie-in to Trump's sore-loserdom and his inability to accept that black voters in Georgia were responsible for his 2020 defeat. And the senator expects a full-court press to get Alito and Thomas to retire so Trump can nominate MAGA fanatics to the court—and impose his most durable legacy on the country. Ossoff also discussed potential limits on aid to Israel, the geopolitical malpractice of the Iran war, and the brazen corruption of the Trump family’s overseas business deals. Plus, Luke Thomas explains the links between MMA and Trump world, the UFC’s key role in rehabilitating Trump after Jan 6, and the sportswashing behind the upcoming fights at the White House. Extra bonus: Tim weighs in on the Maine Senate race.

Sen. Jon Ossoff and Morning Kombat host Luke Thomas join Tim Miller.

show notes:

Ossoff's campaign website
Ossoff in 2024, explaining his vote for a resolution that would've blocked arms sales to Israel
Luke's "Morning Kombat"
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Jon Ossoff: Trump Is a Lifelong Racist

At home, POTUS shows how much he wants to be like an Arab despot, plastering his mug all over the place and deploying the Justice Department to fatuously claim that Comey’s use of seashell art can rise to a crime. But on Iran, he seems to have backed off his promise of a short war, and he’s making pretty wimpy threats against the regime. Plus, Disney’s new CEO is standing by Kimmel, Barney Frank has a warning for Democrats, and recent polling data is not backing up the Dems’ midterms bullishness—even if voter sentiment is very bad for Trump and the Republicans.

John Heilemann joins Tim Miller.

show notes

Subscribe to The Bulwark's YouTube
John's "Impolitic" podcast
 • Tim’s livestream Wednesday at 8pm ET on 
Substack • or 
YouTube • 

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John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Acting AG Todd Blanche, who watched Pam Bondi get fired, knows exactly what his assignment is: Go after every political enemy Trump wants targeted, and charge them—even without evidence of a crime. At the FBI, officials under Kash have pursued dubious or phony leads while career agents are seething over what the director has done to the place. Plus, the podcastistan wars may be doing real harm to the MAGA movement, influencers in the Trump echo chamber are looking pretty lame in comparison to key right-wing figures who are breaking ranks with him, and the latest on post-overdose looksmaxxer Clavicular.

Will Sommer and Carol Leonnig join Tim Miller. 

show notes

Carol's latest reporting on the case of assassination suspect, Cole Allen
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Carol's book about the Secret Service, "Zero Fail" • and her latest, 
"Injustice" • 

Will's new "False Flag" on Clavicular
Will on a wild and unnecessary FBI raid
TNL's live pod from Tuesday
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Carol Leonnig and Will Sommer: The Loons and the Loyalists Running the DOJ

Trump is a terrible president and he deserves to be criticized, even in personal terms. Our pro-democracy movement has shown time and time again that we can oppose him— and oppose any attempt at violence at the same time. Even putting aside POTUS's own hypocritical calls for violence or his celebrating the deaths of his enemies, Saturday's shooting was related to mental health issues and too easy of access to guns. Plus, Zelensky is the new leader of the free world, Trump looks like he's headed to a humiliating defeat in Iran, the left should work harder to not be false flag cranks, and a look at the Senate map in the context of America Firsters feeling betrayed by Trump's stupid wars and his attempt to redesign D.C. in his image. 

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

Monday's "Morning Shots"
Ken Klippenstein's reporting on the shooting suspect, which Tim referenced
David French on Zelensky (gift)
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Bill Kristol: Words Are Not Violence

Not only is the new hardline regime in Tehran now more likely to go rogue as a nuclear power a la North Korea, ordinary Iranians—who Trump and Bibi initially claimed we were rescuing—are also living under even harsher conditions. At the same time, the war has burned through billions worth of our critical weapons stockpile, a development that surely will figure into China’s calculations vis‐à‐vis Taiwan. This is the moment for Dems to reshape their brand and win back everyday working Americans. Plus, the settlers’ escalating attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank, the Trump administration’s depraved treatment of Afghan refugees, any talk of aid for UAE stinks of Trump family corruption, and Dems need to fix their blue places while simultaneously working to win voters in the red ones.

show notes

Nick's nonprofit, Kristof Impact
Nick's NYT column page
Helen Keller International
Kristof Farms
Tim's playlist
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Nicholas Kristof: What a Mess Trump Created

Trump has gone full “1984” with his claim that it’s a good thing that the Strait of Hormuz is closed. He also says that he saved some Iranian women from being executed, which the regime in Tehran called “fake news.” It’s a telling sign of the times when the public can’t figure out whether the White House or the Iranian regime is lying. Speaking of scam artists, Ben joins Tim to discuss his new film on cryptocurrency, "Everyone is Lying to You for Money." The industry is rife with crime, it sorely needs to be regulated, and some of the most unscrupulous people are behind it— including our president. 

Ben McKenzie and Sarah Matthews join Tim Miller.

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show notes:

More on Ben's film, "Everyone Is Lying to You for Money"
Tim's interview with Ben from 2023
Tim and Catherine on Tucker's despicable attack on Catherine
David Kirkpatrick on Trump's $4 bil in profiteering off the presidency, mostly from crypto
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Ben McKenzie and Sarah Matthews: We Are Drowning in Scam Artists

Trump's madman antics got him into a game of chicken with Iran, but he's up against people who are even crazier than he is. And he is not likely to get a deal with Tehran that is any better than Obama's nuclear agreement—which Trump called the worst deal in the world. Plus, the Virginia win is another reminder that Dems can effectively play hardball, Kevin Warsh is looking like an alarming pick for the Fed, the media coverage of the mass shooting in Shreveport was almost non-existent, MAGA is obsessed with Mamdani, Sam and Tim have new Cabinet rankings, and is there a way to stop Kushner from making deals with Sharia law countries? 

Sam Stein joins Tim Miller.

show notes

Catherine on Warsh failing the big test in his confirmation hearing
Will Saletan on the latest anti-MAMDANI bill
Jonathan on the national media largely ignoring the mass shooting in Louisiana
Tim, Sam, and Sommer on Candace vs. Loomer
Tim on the Nuggets pod, CSG
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Sam Stein: Can Trump Avoid Humiliation in Iran?

Trump keeps jawboning the markets to try to manage the fallout from the war on Iran, but we have yet to see the full economic impact of his foreign policy misadventure. Oil and gas facilities in the Gulf have been critically damaged and will take years to repair—which will inevitably lead to higher fuel prices. And countries are stockpiling commodities and products like fertilizer, which will also feed inflation. Plus, a new book on the social and economic travails of modern American men.

The Ringer's Jordan Ritter Conn and Bloomberg's Tracy Alloway join Tim Miller.

show notes

Jordan's new book, "American Men"
Tracy's podcast, "Odd Lots"
"Road from Raqqa," Jordan's book about two Syrian brothers 
The NYT story on the Syrian billionaires and their business deals with the Trump family 
Jordan's reporting on the heartbeat of resistance in Minneapolis 
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Tracy Alloway and Jordan Ritter Conn: The Global Economic Shock from a Stupid War

Just hang tight: Trump is super close to a deal with an enemy that he handed all the leverage to. Absolutely do not read his steady supply of hollow threats as him begging Iran for a face-saving off-ramp. Meanwhile, back in reality, Iran too can see how desperate Trump is, the war is helping China feel emboldened, and some of our closest post-WWII allies think Beijing is more dependable than the U.S. under Trump. Plus, Hegseth has chosen an ideal time to pick a fight with the secretary of the Army, numerous officials at the FBI are alarmed by Kash's alleged alcohol-induced absences, kudos to Ossoff for the way he talked about corruption and kleptocracy, and more Vance-splaining from the newbie Catholic Veep.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

show notes

 • Tim’s livestream Monday at 8ET on 
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Substack • 

JVL on the "Trump Madman Theory' of the stock market
Lauren on the Dems preparing for a potential midterm-year SCOTUS vacancy
Tim's 2020 piece on Joe DiGenova 
Images of the Poodle Room, Kash's alleged hangout in Vegas
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Bill Kristol: The Tough Guy Really, Really Means It This Time

The Republican Party may be deeply unpopular, but the Democratic Party is even more so. The Dems' brand is weak despite the success of the off-year elections in 2025. To have a shot at winning back the Senate in the midterms, and the White House in 2028, the most successful Dems will be the ones who run against the status quo of their own party. In the meantime, Dems should be aggressively holding Republicans responsible for the tariffs, the threat against Greenland, and the terrorizing of Minnesotans— because they're not stopping the administration. Plus, cowardly CEOs, how to use A.I. as a political issue, and Trump & co's efforts to silence Americans.

 Veteran strategist David Plouffe joins Tim Miller.

show notes

 • 
Plouffe's NYT piece

Tim's interview with Ryan Grim, the recent lefty guest Tim referenced

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David Plouffe: Democrats Have to Run Against Their Party

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