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The world's top authors and critics join host Gilbert Cruz and editors at The New York Times Book Review to talk about the week's top books, what we're reading and what's going on in the literary world.

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Paul Yoon’s new novel, “Etna,” follows a haunted, battle-scarred war veteran who wants desperately to go home. He also happens to be a dog — a mixed-breed shepherd trained to sniff out bombs for an unnamed military in the throes of an unnamed conflict — and he has no idea where he is anymore, or if his old farm is even still standing after so much violence. Undeterred, he ventures into the great unknown, to somehow find his way back.

The result is a powerful story about survival, the brutal cost of war and what it means to step forward after calamity.

On this episode of the Book Review Book Club, the host MJ Franklin discusses the novel with his colleagues Elisabeth Egan and Scott Heller. You can follow along, and add your own comments to the discussion here.

Other books (and poems, and a movie) mentioned in this episode:

 • The “Odyssey”
 • The work of E.E. Cummings
 • The film “A Dog’s Purpose,” directed by Lasse Hallström (adapted from W. Bruce Cameron’s novel, also named “A Dog’s Purpose”)
 • “The Vulnerables,” by Sigrid Nunez
 • “The Eyes and the Impossible,” by Dave Eggers
 • “Angel Down,” by Daniel Kraus
 • “Marley & Me,” by John Grogan
 • “Flush,” by Virginia Woolf
 • “Doggerel,” by Reginald Dwayne Betts
 • “Dog Show,” by Billy Collins
 • “Deaf Republic,” by Ilya Kaminsky
 • “An Immense World,” by Ed Yong
 • “Station Eleven,” by Emily St. John Mandel
 • “The Road,” by Cormac McCarthy

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Book Club: Let’s Talk About ‘Etna,’ by Paul Yoon

MJ Franklin is in the host chair this week, in for Gilbert Cruz. MJ spoke with New York Times book critic Dwight Garner about Marlon James’s new novel, “The Disappearers.” Dwight recently reviewed the book, calling it "the novel of the decade, if not the century." With praise like that, the review itself has become a topic of conversation. Dwight talks about the novel, the moment he realized it was a masterpiece and, more broadly, his approach to criticism.

We also have a wide-ranging conversation with John Green, the best-selling author. Green is known for his young adult novels, but he makes his adult-fiction debut with “Hollywood, Ending.” We discuss the book, fame and the titles that made an impression on him when he was young.

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John Green Knows a True Hollywood Ending is Complicated

If you were a reading adult in the early 2000s, you probably tackled, or at least heard about, “The Corrections,” Jonathan Franzen’s best-selling and much discussed book.

The novel won the National Book Award, was a Pulitzer finalist, and an Oprah Book Club pick.

The book arrives at its 25th anniversary this month, and in today’s episode of the “Book Review” podcast, host Gilbert Cruz talks with Taffy Brodesser-Akner, a writer for The New York Times magazine and novelist, about why this novel is so essential to modern American literature. And that’s not just her take: “The Corrections” ranks fifth on our list of the 100 Best Books of the 21st Century, as voted on by hundreds of influential readers.

“The Corrections” is a book about America at the turn of the century; it was published just before 9/11. Brodesser-Akner, who admits to having read the novel 20 times, says that Franzen’s work “became the defining book of America’s golden moment, which ended on Sept. 10.”

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Credits

The “Book Review” Podcast is hosted by Gilbert Cruz, produced by Amy Pearl, Sarah Diamond and Patricia Sulbarán. The show is mixed by Pedro Rosado. Special thanks to Dahlia Haddad.

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The Best Books of the 21st Century: Taffy Brodesser-Akner on ‘The Corrections’

Jordan Baker said it best: “Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall.”

In just one short sentence, the character in F. Scott Fitzgerald’s “The Great Gatsby” sums up that wonderful feeling of anticipation that comes with autumn. For bookish people, the season comes with its own set of expectations; some of the year’s biggest books are released in September and October. On this episode of the “Book Review” podcast, Joumana Khatib and MJ Franklin join our host, Gilbert Cruz, to go over some of the titles they’re most looking forward to.

Books discussed on this episode:

 • “
The Disappearers, • ” by Marlon James
 • “The Radiance,” by Ayad Akhtar
 • “American Scoundrel: Roy Cohn’s Dark Journey From Joe McCarthy to Donald Trump,” by Kai Bird and Susan Goldmark
 • “Switzy,” by Emma Cline
 • “The Vanishing Family: Love, Fate, and the Quest to End Dementia,” by Robert Kolker
 • “Dead Beat,” by Leigh Bardugo
 • “American Hagwon,” by Min Jin Lee
 • “Mazywood,” by Tananarive Due
 • “Public Access Afterworld,” by Jane Schoenbrun
 • “Other Worlds Than These,” by Stephen King and Peter Straub
 • “Partita,” by Barbara Kingsolver
 • “Music Against the Night,” by Yiyun Li
 • “The Rush: California Gold, the Civil War and the Making of the Modern World,” by Nathaniel Philbrick
 • “The Occidental Book of the Dead,” by T. Geronimo Johnson
 • “The Brightness,” by Chad Harbach
 • “Stations,” by Louise Kennedy
 • “On the Calculation of Volume (Book V),” by Solvej Balle
 • “Dodge City,” by Patrick DeWitt
 • “Under Story,” by Chloe Benjamin
 • “Our Noble Selves,” by Kate Atkinson
 • “Taipei Story,” by R.F. Kuang
 • “Exit Party,” by Emily St. John Mandel
 • “Ply,” by Hernan Diaz
 • “Hollywood, Ending,” by John Green
 • “No Land to Stand On: Notes From Detention,” by Mahmoud Khalil
 • “Life Out of Order,” by Audrey Niffenegger
 • “Every Story Is a Love Story,” by Imbolo Mbue
 • “Peck & Peck,” by Bonnie Garmus
 • “A Court of Splintered Harmony,” by Sarah J. Maas
 • “Take My Word for It,” by LeVar Burton
 • “Promise Me, America,” by Joe Biden

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Credits

The “Book Review” podcast is hosted by Gilbert Cruz and produced by Amy Pearl, Sarah Diamond and Patricia Sulbarán. The show is mixed by Pedro Rosado.

Special thanks to MJ Franklin, Dahlia Haddad and Brooke Minters.

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It’s Time for a Big Ol’ Fall Book Preview

At the center of Patrick Radden Keefe’s new book, “London Falling,” is a mystery: In 2019, a young man named Zac Brettler disappeared, and a few days later his body was found in the Thames River. Surveillance footage showed what appeared to be Zac jumping off the balcony of a nearby luxury tower, leading some to speculate that he had taken his own life. His family, though, didn’t quite believe that theory; though troubled, Zac, in their view, hadn’t seemed suicidal. Then the Brettlers learn that before his death, Zac had pretended to be the rich son of a Russian oligarch, and fallen in with a dangerous crowd in London’s criminal scene.

So what happened? That’s what Keefe attempts to answer in “London Falling.”

On this episode of the Book Review Book Club, the host MJ Franklin discusses the book with his colleagues Jennifer Szalai and Sadie Stein. You can follow along and add your own comments to the discussion here.

Books discussed on this episode:

“Say Nothing” and “Empire of Pain,” by Patrick Radden Keefe

“Reunion,” by Fred Uhlman

“Putin’s People,” by Catherine Belton

“Strangers to Ourselves,” by Rachel Aviv

“Days of Love and Rage,” by Anand Gopal

“Bad Blood,” by John Carreyrou

“Catch and Kill,” by Ronan Farrow

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Book Club: Let’s Talk About ‘London Falling’

What is it about a bookstore? You walk in planning to browse for a few minutes, and somehow an hour later you’re still wandering the stacks with an armful of books you can’t seem to put down.

For this week’s episode, our guest host, MJ Franklin, and the producer Sarah Diamond take a field trip to a local bookstore, McNally Jackson Seaport, at the southern tip of Manhattan. There, they talk with the owner, Sarah McNally, about what it’s actually like to run a bookstore. Then MJ sits down with Jennifer Harlan, an editor at the Book Review, to talk about The Times’s new bookstore crawl series, the bookstores she grew up loving and why bookshops seem to be having a moment.

Of course, no bookstore episode would be complete without some book recommendations. MJ and Jen share some of their favorite books about bookstores and booksellers, including a romance set in a small-town bookshop and a memoir about living inside Shakespeare and Company in Paris.

Books discussed on this episode:

“Switzy,” by Emma Cline

“Delicate Edible Birds,” by Lauren Groff

“Book Lovers,” by Emily Henry

“Monogamy,” by Sue Miller

“Time Was Soft There: A Paris Sojourn at Shakespeare and Co.,” by Jeremy Mercer

“The Bookshop: A History of the American Bookstore,” by Evan Friss

“A Marvelous Light,” by Freya Marske

“The Rachel Incident,” by Caroline O’Donoghue

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Credits

“The Book Review” podcast is hosted this week by MJ Franklin and produced by Amy Pearl, Sarah Diamond and Patricia Sulbarán. The show is edited by Tracy Mumford and mixed this week by Daniel Ramirez.

Special thanks to Dahlia Haddad and Brooke Minters.

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Why We Can’t Resist a Great Bookstore

Imagine, if you will, that for unknown reasons North Korea has just launched a nuclear bomb at the United States. What happens next?

The journalist Annie Jacobsen has imagined exactly that, and spent more than a decade interviewing dozens of experts while mastering the voluminous literature on the subject — some of it declassified only in recent years — for her 2024 book “Nuclear War: A Scenario,” which walks readers through the 72 minutes from launch to global annihilation. In the Book Review, Barry Gewen said the book was “gripping” and declared it essential reading “if you want to understand the complex and disturbing details that go into a civilization-destroying decision.”

Jacobsen now has another book out: “Biological War: A Scenario.” Our critic Dwight Garner wrote in his review that it “moves like a meteor.”

For this week’s episode, we revisit the conversation the host Gilbert Cruz had with Jacobsen last year, in which she discussed why she wrote “Nuclear War,” and how she managed to compile so many details about topics that are among the most secret in the world.

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This Reporter Can Tell Us What Nuclear Apocalypse Looks Like (Encore)

What are the best thrillers published since 2000?

That was the question that the team at The New York Times’s Book Review posed to hundreds of writers of every kind of crime fiction, from legal thrillers to spy novels to cozy mysteries, as well as librarians, editors, critics and bookstagrammers. We counted up all those votes and came up with a list of the 50 best thrillers of the 21st century, available here.

In this episode, the host Gilbert Cruz is joined by Tina Jordan, the editor of the Book Review, and Sarah Lyall, a longtime columnist who writes the Book Review’s monthly thrillers column, to revisit the books that changed the genre, discuss overlooked favorites and recommend the thrillers that everyone should read next.

Books discussed on this episode:

“Cat Among the Pigeons,” by Agatha Christie

“Rebecca,” by Daphne du Maurier

“The Turn of the Screw,” by Henry James

“The Firm,” by John Grisham

“A Time to Kill,” by John Grisham

“The Client,” by John Grisham

“The Pelican Brief,” by John Grisham

“Presumed Innocent,” by Scott Turow

“And Then There Were None,” by Agatha Christie

“Murder on the Orient Express,” by Agatha Christie

“Peril at End House,” by Agatha Christie

“Crooked House,” by Agatha Christie

“Time and Again,” by Jack Finney

“Gone Girl,” by Gillian Flynn

“Sharp Objects,” by Gillian Flynn

“The Likeness,” by Tana French

“In the Woods,” by Tana French

“Broken Harbor,” by Tana French

“Mystic River,” by Dennis Lehane

“All the Sinners Bleed,” by S. A. Cosby

“Defending Jacob,” by William Landay

“We Need to Talk About Kevin,” by Lionel Shriver

“The Push,” by Ashley Audrain

“The God of the Woods,” by Liz Moore

“The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo,” by Stieg Larsson

“No Country for Old Men,” by Cormac McCarthy

“Slow Horses,” by Mick Herron

“Shutter Island,” by Dennis Lehane

“The Constant Gardener,” by John le Carré

“The Secret History,” by Donna Tartt

“My Sister, the Serial Killer,” by Oyinkan Braithwaite

“Butter,” by Asako Yuzuki

“Case Histories,” by Kate Atkinson

“Life After Life,” by Kate Atkinson

“Our Noble Selves,” by Kate Atkinson

“The Expats,” by Chris Pavone

“The Anomaly,” by Hervé Le Tellier

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Let’s Talk About the 50 Best Thrillers of the 21st Century

Early in Douglas Stuart’s new novel, “John of John,” the Booker Prize-winning author describes a peculiar irony: “What skinned him was that the closer he got to home, the more lost he felt.”

It’s a passing line, but it captures the tension at the heart of this magnificent book: Here is a story of two men, each profoundly isolated, trying to figure out how to exist in a small, claustrophobic world.

The traveler heading home and dreading it is Cal, a young gay man who has recently graduated from college in Edinburgh and has been floundering ever since. At the start of the novel, he is summoned back to the small village where he grew up to care for his sick grandmother. He obliges, but he’s not happy about the move — a rakish dreamer, Cal doesn’t fit into the provincial life of his village. His chief antagonist is his father, John. Traditional, religious and stoic, John hates Cal’s flamboyance and inertia, and he’s determined to mold Cal into an upstanding citizen of this tiny community. But John is hiding secrets of his own that, if they were to get out, could upend his life.

Bouncing between John’s and Cal’s stories, “John of John” asks: What does it mean to fit in, what’s the risk of standing out, and what’s the price of both?

On this episode of the Book Review Book Club, the host MJ Franklin discusses the book with his colleagues Leah Greenblatt and Scott Heller.

Other books (and a movie) mentioned in this episode:

“Shuggie Bain” and “Young Mungo,” by Douglas Stuart

“What We Can Know,” by Ian McEwan

“The Banshees of Inisherin,” directed by Martin McDonagh

“The Keeper,” by Tana French

“A Natural,” by Ross Raisin

“The Spell,” by Alan Hollinghurst

“Seascraper,” by Benjamin Wood

“Whale Fall,” by Elizabeth O’Connor

“Clear,” by Carys Davies

“Wuthering Heights,” by Emily Brontë

“Persuasion,” by Jane Austen

“Washington Square,” by Henry James

“The Town of Babylon,” by Alejandro Varela

“Memorial,” by Bryan Washington

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Book Club: Let’s Talk About ‘John of John’

The editors at The New York Times Book Review spend almost the entire year discussing, debating and sometimes arguing about the year’s best books. We’re halfway through 2026, which means it’s time for the host Gilbert Cruz and the Book Review editors Joumana Khatib and MJ Franklin to talk about some of the best releases of the year as well as a few hidden gems that captured their attention and affection.

Fiction

“Whistler,” by Ann Patchett

“The Calamity Club,” by Kathryn Stockett

“Transcription,” by Ben Lerner

“The Keeper,” by Tana French

“Kin,” by Tayari Jones

“This Is Where the Serpent Lives,” by Daniyal Mueenuddin

Nonfiction

“Fear and Fury: The Reagan Eighties, the Bernie Goetz Shootings, and the Rebirth of White Rage,” by Heather Ann Thompson

“Dangerous, Dirty, Violent, and Young: My Fugitive Family in the Revolutionary Underground,” by Zayd Ayers Dohrn

“Trash!,” by Simon Paré-Poupart

“London Falling: A Mysterious Death in a Gilded City and a Family’s Search for Truth,” by Patrick Radden Keefe

“Days of Love and Rage: A Story of Ordinary People Forging a Revolution,” by Anand Gopal

Hidden Gems

“Lost Lambs,” by Madeline Cash

“A Sudden Flicker of Light: A Revisionist History of Movies,” by David Thomson

“American Han,” by Lisa Lee

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Let’s Talk About the Best Books of the Year (So Far)

In “American Baby,” the veteran journalist Gabrielle Glaser tells the story of one mother and child, and also zooms out from there to consider the ethics of adoption in this country. Our reviewer, Lisa Belkin, calls the book “the most comprehensive and damning” account of the “growing realization that old-style adoption was not always what it seemed.” Glaser visits the podcast this week to talk about it.

Kenneth R. Rosen visits the podcast to discuss his new book, “Troubled: The Failed Promise of America’s Behavioral Treatment Programs.” The book is an examination of the “tough-love industry” of wilderness camps and residential therapeutic programs for young people. Rosen himself, as a troubled teen, spent time at a few of these places, and his book strongly criticizes their methods.

Also on this week’s episode, Alexandra Alter has news from the publishing world; and Gregory Cowles and Tina Jordan talk about what they’ve been reading. Pamela Paul is the host.

Here are the books discussed in this week’s “What We’re Reading”:

“Summer Cooking” by Elizabeth David

“Never Let Me Go” by Kazuo Ishiguro

“The Soul of a New Machine” by Tracy Kidder

“Just Mercy” by Bryan Stevenson

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