City streets or mountain peaks—where do you draw the line? In a special crossover episode with the BORDERLANDS podcast, Tommy sits down with Josh to tackle the joys and challenges of being a trail runner in the heart of the city. From finding green spaces among the grey to repeating the same hill 20 times for hill training, we’re diving into the balancing act of urban life and trail dreams. Don’t miss this one—it’s where the pavement meets the path.

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