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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Monster's Legacy” (Season 14, Episode 13) and dissect the horrific crimes of defrocked Episcopal priest and child pornographer Claudius Vermilye.
 
SOURCES:
 
The Washington Post 1
 
The Washington Post 2
 
Wikipedia - John Geoghan
 
CBS News
 
Wikipedia - Claudius Vermilye
 
The Dallas Morning News
 
Slate
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
The NO MORE Global Directory
 
Next week’s episode will be “A Single Life" (Season 1, Episode 2). 
 
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Episode 220 - Monster's Legacy

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the ever-relevant episode “Manic” (Season 5, Episode 2) and the Franklin v. Parke-Davis lawsuit involving the neuropathy drug gabapentin.
 
SOURCES:
 
The New York Times 1
 
The New York Times 2
 
The New York Times 3
 
Wikipedia - Columbine High School massacre
 
The Denver Post
 
The Washington Post
 
National Library of Medicine
 
Wikipedia - Franklin v. Parke-Davis
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Brady: United Against Gun Violence
 
Next week’s episode will be “Solving for the Unknowns" (Season 21, Episode 19). 
 
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Manic

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Baggage” (Season 10, Episode 18) and dissect the horrific crimes of Francisco de Assis Pereira (a.k.a. "The Park Maniac").
 
SOURCES:
 
The Park Maniac: The Untold Story (2024)
 
Wikipedia - Francisco de Assis Pereira
 
Murderpedia - Francisco de Assis Pereira
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Displaced Black Families GoFundMe Directory
 
ARC Firefighter Fund
 
Next week’s episode will be “Thought Criminal" (Season 15, Episode 23). 
 
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Baggage

Today, Kara and Liza dissect the episode “Decaying Morality” (Season 16, Episodes 13), discuss the infamous public murder of Jeffrey Doucet by Gary Plauché, and interview the incredibly talented Jamie McShane.
 
SOURCES:
 
The Washington Post
 
The New York Times
 
The New Zealand Herald
 
ESPN
 
Wikipedia - Robert Hadden
 
CBS News 1
 
CBS News 2
 
CBS News 3
 
KABC-TV
 
Forbes
 
ProPublica
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
The Innocence Project
 
Next week’s episode will be “Smoked” (Season 12, Episode 24). 
 
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Decaying Morality w/ Jamie McShane

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Ballad of Dwight and Irena” (Season 22, Episode 2), discuss the legendary stabbing of Johnny Stompanato, and interview the wonderful Riki Lindhome.
 
SOURCES:
 
United Nations
 
National Library of Medicine
 
The New York Times 1
 
The New York Times 2
 
Wikipedia - Killing of Johnny Stompanato
 
CBS News
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Intimate Partner Violence Prevention
 
Next week’s episode will be “Decaying Morality" (Season 16, Episode 13). 
 
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Ballad of Dwight and Irena w/ Riki Lindhome

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Tunnel Blind” (Season 25, Episode 1), the disappearance of Corinna Paige Slusser, and interview the talented Allison Elaine.
 
SOURCES:
 
ABC 7
 
NBC News
 
Instagram - corinnaslusser
 
International Missing Persons Wiki
 
People
 
Oxygen
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Polaris Project
 
Next week’s episode will be “Guilt" (Season 3, Episode 18). 
 
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Tunnel Blind w/ Allison Elaine

Today, Kara and Liza cover the episodes “Devil's Dissections” & “Criminal Pathology” (Season 17, Episodes 1 & 2), discuss the murders and crimes of the infamous Robert Durst, and interview the distinguished Jefferson Mays.
 
SOURCES:
 
People 1
 
People 2
 
The New York Times 1
 
The New York Times 2
 
The New York Times 3
 
The New York Times 4
 
The New York Times 5
 
The New York Times 6
 
The New York Times 7
 
The New York Times 8
 
The New York Times 9
 
ABC News
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
The Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst
 
Next week’s episode will be “Tunnel Blind” (Season 25, Episode 1). 
 
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Devil's Dissections & Criminal Pathology w/ Jefferson Mays

For their incredible 200th episode, Kara and Liza break down “P.C.” (Season 11, Episode 13), discuss the Lesbian Avengers feminist organization, and interview the iconic Kathy Griffin.

SOURCES:

Medium

KSBY News

San Luis Obispo Tribune 1

San Luis Obispo Tribune 2

Noozhawk

California Incarcerated Records and Information Search (CIRIS)

lesbianavengers.com

Wikipedia - Lesbian Avengers

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

The Lesbian Avengers Eat Fire, Too - Documentary

Next week’s episode will be “Blinded” (Season 9, Episode 7). 

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P.C. w/ Kathy Griffin

This week, Liza and Kara recap “Lowdown” (Season 5, Episode 20), discuss the “Down-low phenomenon” and the death of Frank Vaccaro, and speak to the prolific Michael Beach (Waiting to Exhale, ER).

SOURCES:

Wikipedia - Down-low (sexual slang)

The New York Times

National Center for Biotechnology Information

The Village Voice

Oprah.com

The Reckoning

Tampa Bay Times

Findlaw.com

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

National Black Justice Collective

Next week’s episode will be “Shattered” (Season 11, Episode 24). 

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Lowdown w/ Michael Beach

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Fat” (Season 7, Episode 20) and the real-life lawsuits against McDonald’s filed by Jazlyn Bradley and others.

SOURCES:

New York Times 1

New York Times 2

New York Post

Mental Floss

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

Weight Stigma - World Obesity Federation

Next week’s episode will be “Parasites” (Season 2, Episode 19). 

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Tunnel Blind w/ Allison Elaine

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