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Paris Marx

Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. It’s not your usual tech podcast.

Tech Won't Save Us

Paris’ new book Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech’s Data Empires is coming out in October. To celebrate, we’re revisiting the series that planted the seeds for his deep dive into hyperscale data centers, the communities they’re affecting, and the future Silicon Valley is trying to build. This is episode 4 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Won’t Save Us.

The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Original production on Data Vampires was by Eric Wickham. Current production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Preorder 
Hyperscale • to support Paris at 
hyperscalebook.com • .
 • Postdoctoral candidate at Case Western Reserve University Émile P. Torres, 
Vanity Fair • tech and business correspondent Julia Black, Goldsmiths University lecturer Dan McQuillan, and former head of the Center for Applied Data Ethics Ali Alkhatib were interviewed for this episode.
 • Pieces by 
Sam Altman • , 
Marc Andreessen • , and an interview with 
Elon Musk • were cited.

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Data Vampires Redux: Fighting for Control (Episode 4)

Paris’ new book Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech’s Data Empires is coming out in October. To celebrate, we’re revisiting the series that planted the seeds for his deep dive into hyperscale data centers, the communities they’re affecting, and the future Silicon Valley is trying to build. This is episode 3 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Won’t Save Us.

The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Original production on Data Vampires was by Eric Wickham. Current production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Preorder 
Hyperscale • to support Paris at 
hyperscalebook.com • .
 • Sustainable AI Group cofounder Sasha Luccioni, Associate Professor in Economics Cecilia Rikap, former head of the Center for Applied Data Ethics Ali Alkhatib, Goldsmiths University lecturer Dan McQuillan, and Director of Research at the Distributed AI Research Institute Alex Hanna were interviewed for this episode.
 • Interviews with 
Sam Altman • and 
Brad • 
Smith • were cited.

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Data Vampires Redux: Sacrificing for AI (Episode 3)

Paris’ new book Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech’s Data Empires is coming out in October. To celebrate, we’re revisiting the series that planted the seeds for his deep dive into hyperscale data centers, the communities they’re affecting, and the future Silicon Valley is trying to build. This is episode 2 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Won’t Save Us.

The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Original production on Data Vampires was by Eric Wickham. Current production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Preorder 
Hyperscale • to support Paris at 
hyperscalebook.com • .
 • People Before Profit TD Brid Smith, Tu Nube Seca Mi Río organizer Aurora Gomez Delgado, and King’s College London lecturer Sebastian Lehuede were interviewed for this episode.
 • Some pieces by 
Dara Kerr • in NPR, 
Sarah Emerson and Emily Baker-White • in 
Forbes • , and 
Hannah Daly • in 
The Irish Times • were cited.

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Data Vampires Redux: Opposing Data Centers (Episode 2)

Paris’ new book Hyperscale: The Ambition and Excess of Big Tech’s Data Empires is coming out on October 20. To celebrate, we’re revisiting the series that planted the seeds for his deep dive into hyperscale data centers, the communities they’re affecting, and the future Silicon Valley is trying to build. This is episode 1 of Data Vampires, a special four-part series from Tech Won’t Save Us.

The show is hosted by Paris Marx. Original production on Data Vampires was by Eric Wickham. Current production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Preorder 
Hyperscale • to support Paris at 
hyperscalebook.com • .
 • Senior cloud consultant Dwayne Monroe and Associate Professor in Economics Cecilia Rikap were interviewed for this episode.
 • If you missed it, check out Cecilia Rikap’s latest chat with Paris 
here • and grab her book 
The Rulers • .
 • Interviews with 
Jeff Bezos • and 
The Oregonian • journalist 
Mike Rogoway • were cited.

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Data Vampires Redux: Going Hyperscale (Episode 1)

Not long ago, tech jobs were sought after for their security, benefits, wages, and the progressive values promoted by Silicon Valley companies. But now workers are barely hanging on. Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan join Paris Marx to discuss the state of worker organizing in the tech industry, including how it’s changed since the mid-2010s and where it needs to go from here.

Clarissa Redwine is a tech worker and labor activist. JS Tan is a PhD candidate at MIT and writes the Value Added newsletter. They are the authors of Against Tech Oligarchy: Worker Resistance in the World's Most Powerful Industry.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • You can now pre-order Paris’s new book 
Hyperscale • .
 • Learn more about Kickstarter United in Clarissa’s 
oral history podcast • .
Layoffs in 2026 • have surpassed last year.
 • Tech workers are 
pushing back against AI use • .
 • Paris talked to JS last year about the 
connection between tech • and oil & gas.

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How Mass Layoffs Changed Working in Tech w/ Clarissa Redwine & JS Tan

A cult of fascist ideology has gripped Silicon Valley, and the tech industrial complex is threatening US democracy. Gil Durán joins Paris Marx to discuss the radical billionaire cabal that is hellbent on the consolidation of corporate and political power, including the visions they have for the future and the strategies they’re using to drive us there.

Gil Durán is the author of The Nerd Reich: Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy and writes The Nerd Reich newsletter. 

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Click here to get your first month of Proton Mail for just $1. • Gil has written about 
Paulina Borsook’s • prescient warning about tech libertarians from more than twenty years ago.
 • Gil has written the foreword for the new edition of 
Cyberselfish • .
 • Balaji Srinivasan has moved his 
commune project to Kazakhstan • after being booted from Malaysia. 
 • Shout-out to friend of the pod Quinn Slobodian, who’s work you can 
find here • . Paris recently talked to Quinn, check out that 
episode here • if you missed it.

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Tech Fascism Has Come for American Democracy w/ Gil Durán

Governments are prioritizing data centers at the expense of communities and the planet, but it doesn’t have to be this way. Matt Haugen joins Paris Marx to discuss how national strategies are dismantling environmental protections while enriching a handful of megacorporations, and what an alternative agenda could look like.

Matt Haugen is Research and Editorial Manager at the Climate and Community Institute.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Check out the new report Matt co-wrote 
AI First • .
 • If you missed it, Molly White recently broke down how the tech industry is 
spending big on elections • .
 • Big tech’s emissions are 
continuing to rise • .
Colossus • is still being powered by unpermitted gas turbines.

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Government is Putting AI Before People and the Planet w/ Matt Haugen

Canada has tech bros too, like Shopify CEO Tobi Lütke who has a new idea to link voting rights to how much income tax you paid. Rachel Gilmore joins Paris Marx to discuss how Canadian tech companies like Shopify are pushing terrible right-wing policy ideas while influencing Mark Carney’s agenda.

Rachel Gilmore is an award-winning independent journalist and creator of the Bubble Pop newsletter.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Click here to get your first month of Proton Mail for just $1. • You can now pre-order Paris’s new book 
Hyperscale. • Rachel has written about 
Tobi Lütke’s • most recent awful ideas, including why it matters what the Canadian tech elite say.
 • Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney appears to be implementing 
policies for tech oligarchs • .
 • Press Progress has done reporting on conservative media outlets 
platforming white nationalists • .
 • Check out the recent episode Paris did with Hadrian Mertins-Kirkwood for a deeper dive on 
Canada’s AI policies • .

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Shopify’s Leaders Are Pushing Right-Wing Politics in Canada w/ Rachel Gilmore

As Big Tech’s power continues to grow, it's more important than ever to understand how companies use their control over cloud infrastructure and services to shape more than just the digital world. Cecilia Rikap joins Paris Marx to discuss how these networks of corporate power operate, including how they are systematically used to influence global politics, the economy, and how society views the world.

Cecilia Rikap is an Associate Professor at University College London’s Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose and the author of The Rulers: Corporate Power in the Age of AI and the Cloud.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • You can now pre-order Paris’s new book 
Hyperscale • .
 • Cecilia and Paris worked on a white paper offering a roadmap to 
reclaiming digital sovereignty • .

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How Cloud Giants Wield Their Power Against Us All w/ Cecilia Rikap

Librarians are working harder than ever to support their neighbourhoods — including by teaching and promoting digital literacy. Hannah Cyrus and Alison Macrina join Paris Marx to discuss the role of library workers in the digital landscape, including how they’re helping patrons navigate privacy basics and artificial intelligence, and how the tech industry is making their jobs harder. 

Hannah Cyrus is a digital media librarian at the Bangor Public Library. Alison Macrina is an activist librarian and the director of Library Freedom Project.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Kyla Hewson. Support the show on Patreon.

Also mentioned in this episode:

Click here to get your first month of Proton Mail for just $1. • The Library Freedom Project has 
a ton of resources • on critically approaching technology.
 • Bangor Daily News wrote about librarians like Hannah 
helping patrons • get AI off their devices.
 • Shout out to friend of the pod Brian Merchant and his book 
Blood in the Machine • .
 • Learn more about the 
Luddite Club • .
 • Learn more about the organization 
Libraries For The People • , working to strengthen and expand libraries.
 • Support your local library! Say hello, get a card if you don’t have one, and participate in community events.

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Librarians Are Helping the Public Ditch AI w/ Hannah Cyrus & Alison Macrina

Paris Marx is joined by Aaron Benanav to discuss OpenAI’s claims that generative AI will take our jobs, how previous periods of automation hype haven’t resulted in mass job loss, and why we need to ensure it doesn’t further empower employers.
 
Aaron Benanav is an Assistant Professor of Sociology at the Maxwell School at Syracuse University and the author of Automation and the Future of Work. Follow Aaron on Twitter at @abenanav.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter, and support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is produced by Eric Wickham and part of the Harbinger Media Network.
 
Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Aaron wrote about 
why chatbots won’t take your job • for the 
New Statesman • .
 • Microsoft is rolling out generative AI in its 
enterprise software services • and its 
Azure platform • .
 • The Writers Guild is 
proposing contract language • on AI in scriptwriting to ensure writers still get the credit.

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Chatbots Won’t Take Many Jobs w/ Aaron Benanav

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