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Hosted by CNN's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, State of the Union features interviews with top newsmakers on politics and policy—covering Washington, the country, and the world.

State of the Union

Under the microscope on Capitol Hill. Dive into our latest discussion with HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as we tackle COVID debates, public health, and the complexities of vaccine discussions. Don’t miss the heated exchanges and insightful commentary.
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High Stakes: The Capitol Hill Debate on Public Health and Politics

First, Kasie Hunt goes one-on-one with FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell. They discuss how California is preparing for a dangerous storm, the increasing threat from severe weather events in the future, and challenges FEMA faces in its response to the Maui wildfires. Next, GOP presidential candidate Asa Hutchinson speaks with Kasie about qualifying for the GOP debate, what his strategy will be, and why he asserts Trump is constitutionally unable to be president again. Plus, Kasie interviews Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy about what he is doing to address the climate crisis, whether he supports more money going to FEMA amid proposed GOP budget cuts, and whether he thinks Trump should be running for president given his 91 criminal charges.Then, Kasie speaks with No Labels National Co-Chair Larry Hogan and CNN’s David Axelrod about why the third-party group could play a spoiler in the 2024 campaign, and why the first GOP debate is a “make or break moment” for DeSantis.After that, constitutional law experts J. Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe join Kasie to discuss their suggestion that Trump is constitutionally disqualified from serving as president again. Finally, the panel joins Kasie to preview the first Republican debate.
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Interviews with: FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, GOP presidential candidate Asa Hutchinson, Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy, No Labels National Co-Chair Larry Hogan and former Obama senior adviser David Axelrod, former judge J. Michael Luttig and constitutional law scholar Laurence Tribe

First, Dana goes-one-on-one with White House Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers Cecilia Rouse on the White House’s efforts to reduce inflation as core inflation reaches a new 40-year high. Then, Dana interviews National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on what Biden’s vow to rethink the U.S.-Saudi relationship means, how he thinks the US would respond to a Russian nuclear strike in Ukraine, and what the Biden administration is doing to support human rights protestors in Iran.Next, Dana goes-one-on-one Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake. Bash asks what Lake would do differently to fix the high inflation rate in the US, whether she thinks the US has a responsibility to the asylum seekers at the southern border, her false claims about the 2020 election, and if she will accept the 2022 election result if she loses. After, Dana interviews Democratic Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs about abortion rights in Arizona being in jeopardy amid a key court battle, and why Hobbs is refusing to debate Lake.Later, Dana speaks with Colorado Senate candidate Joe O’Dea about high inflation being a concern for voters ahead of the midterms, what he would do to stop gun violence, and what the January 6 probe means for Trump’s political future. Finally, Dana interviews Senator Michael Bennet, who is defending his seat against O’Dea. She pushes Bennet on why the Democrats’ Inflation Reduction Act isn’t reducing inflation and how he thinks his opponent is painting himself as a far-right Republican. 
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Interviews with: National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, WH Council of Economic Advisers Chair Cecilia Rouse, Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O’Dea and Senator Michael Bennet.

First, Jake interviews Secretary of State Antony Blinken about what the US is doing to address the growing humanitarian crisis in Ukraine. Next, Sen. Marco Rubio joins to discuss President Zelensky’s pleas for help from US lawmakers. Then, former CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus and Under Secretary of Defense Michèle Flournoy break down the escalation of Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities and what the coming days and weeks could look like. After, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen discusses the mass exodus of refugees fleeing Ukraine and how quickly Ukraine could join the EU. Jake also speaks with Rep. Michael McCaul live from Poland where his is on a bipartisan fact-finding trip to the Ukrainian border. After that, Pussy Riot member Nadya Tolokonnikova speaks out about the thousands of Russians detained today for protesting against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Finally, Jake closes the show with his analysis of how 20 years of misplaced optimism, appeasement and looking the other way paved the way for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. 
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Interviews with: U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Vice Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee Sen. Marco Rubio, President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Michèle Flournoy, House Foreign Affairs Committee Member Rep. Michae McCaul, Former CIA Director General David Petraeus and Pussy Riot member Nadya Tolokonnikova.

First, Jake talks to House Progressive Caucus Chairwoman Rep. Pramila Jayapal and Problem Solvers Caucus Co-chair Rep. Josh Gottheimer about liberals’ threat to block the bipartisan infrastructure deal if there isn’t an agreement on Democrats’ sweeping $3.5 trillion reconciliation plan. Then, Jake presses Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas on the Biden administration’s response the surge in Haitian migrants at the southern border. Next, Jake interviews Republican Sen. Pat Toomey about his party’s refusal to raise the debt ceiling. Finally, Democratic Sen. Cory Booker joins Jake to discuss the collapse of bipartisan police reform negotiations.
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Interview with House Progressive Caucus Chairwoman Rep. Pramila Jayapal; Interview with Problem Solvers Caucus Co-chair Rep. Josh Gottheimer; Interview with Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; Interview with Republican Sen. Pat Toomey; Interview with Democratic Sen. Cory Booker

A special two-hour State of the Union. First, Jake presses National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan on the security situation in Kabul as the US closes in on its deadline to leave Afghanistan. Then, Republican Sen. Mitt Romney tells Jake that both the Trump and Biden administrations bear responsibility for the chaos in Afghanistan. Next, Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton and Republican Rep. Peter Meijer join Jake to discuss what they saw on the ground during their secret trip to Kabul. After that, Jake honors the memory of the 13 US service members killed in the terror attack in Kabul. Then, Jake talks with Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards about his state’s preparations as Hurricane Ida bears down on the Gulf Coast. Next, Jake asks Chief Biden Medical Adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci if schools should mandate vaccines. Then, Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy responds to criticism of how the Biden administration handled the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. Finally, Jake talks with former Afghan Ambassador to the US Roya Rahmani and human rights activist Yasmeen Hassan about the plight of women in Afghanistan now that the Taliban have taken control again.
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Interview with National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan; Interview with Republican Sen. Mitt Romney; Interview with Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton and Republican Rep. Peter Meijer; Interview with Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards; Interview with Chief Biden Medical Adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci; Interview with Democratic Sen. Chris Muphy; Interview with former Afghan Ambassador to the US Roya Rahmani and human rights activist Yasmeen Hassan

First, Jake interviews Lead Impeachment Manager Rep. Jamie Raskin on his strategy for the Senate trial and the loss of his 25-year-old son to depression. Then, Jake interviews incoming Biden chief of staff Ron Klain on the President-elect’s inaugural message and plan to end the pandemic. Next, Jake talks with former Trump national security adviser H.R. McMaster about the riots at the Capitol on January 6. Then, Jake interviews Democratic Whip Sen. Dick Durbin on how the Senate can balance the impeachment trial and coronavirus relief. Finally, Jake explains how Trump’s lies spread like the virus he’s ignored for months.
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Interview with Lead Impeachment Manager Rep. Jamie Raskin; Interview with incoming Biden chief of staff Ron Klain; Interview with former Trump national security adviser H.R. McMaster; Interview with Democratic Whip Sen. Dick Durbin; Jake on Trump’s lies spreading like the virus

First, Jake discusses Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' historic win with senior Biden campaign adviser Symone Sanders. Then, Jake asks House Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn about his role in Joe Biden's victory. Next, Jake presses Utah Sen. Mitt Romney on if it's time for President Trump to concede. Then, Jake breaks down Democrats' dramatic gains in Georgia with former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. Next, Jake talks to New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez about what Biden's win means for the progressive movement. Then, Jake asks Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan if he's disappointed that most Republicans have not joined him in acknowledging Biden as President-elect. Finally, Jake closes with a message for Republican officials who are standing by President Trump's baseless claims of election fraud.
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Interview with senior Biden campaign adviser Symone Sanders; Interview with House Majority Whip Congressman James Clyburn; Interview with Utah Sen. Mitt Romney; Interview with former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams; Interview with New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez; Interview with Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan

First, Jake talks to senior Biden campaign adviser Anita Dunn about Biden's potential paths to victory on Election Day. Next, Jake asks Florida Sen. Rick Scott which way he thinks his state will vote. Then, Jake presses "blue wall" Governors Gretchen Whitmer, Tom Wolf and Tony Evers on if Biden can flip their states blue again. Next, CNN Political Director David Chalian breaks down potential paths to 270 electoral votes for both candidates. Then, Jake presses former presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg on if he thinks his one-time rival Joe Biden's message is resonating. Next, Jake asks Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine about the situation in his state as coronavirus cases reach record levels. Plus, analysis from CNN's political experts, and a message from Jake on the importance of Americans exercising their voting rights.
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Interview with senior Biden campaign adviser Anita Dunn; Interview with Florida Sen. Rick Scott; Joint interview with Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf, and Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers; CNN Political Director David Chalian on paths to 270 electoral votes; Interview with former presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg; Interview with Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine; Analysis from CNN political experts

First, Jake talks with former President Bill Clinton about the life and legacy of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Then, he interviews Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar and White House aide Marc Short about what comes next for the vacant high court seat. Next, Jake interviews Admiral Brett Giroir on the coronavirus death toll approaching 200,000 in the United States. Finally, Supreme Court reporters Nina Totenberg of NPR, Joan Biskupic of CNN and Irin Carmon of New York Magazine join Jake to reflect on Ginsburg's tenure on the Supreme Court.
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Interview with former President Bill Clinton; Interview with Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar; Interview with White House aide Marc Short; Interview with Admiral Brett Giroir; Interviews with Nina Totenberg of NPR, Joan Biskupic of CNN and Irin Carmon of New York Magazine

High Stakes: The Capitol Hill Debate on Public Health and Politics

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