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The Ringer

A podcast featuring Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson that’s about sports, the Sports card market, and how to make money with this hobby. Who you should be buying and selling - along with the occasional fantasy football advice.

Sports Cards Nonsense

Jesse and Mike kick off the show with NFL talk, sharing their thoughts on players like Josh Allen and diving into the quarterback market, comparing stars like Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and Sam Darnold, along with investment strategies (0:00). Later, they’re joined by Josh Luber, co-founder of StockX and Fanatics Collectibles, to discuss the rise of collectible toys, including Bearbricks and his new project, Ghostrite (26:00). The episode wraps up with answers to your mailbag questions (1:07:00).

Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson
Guest: Josh Luber
Producer: Devon Renaldo
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Making a Case for Collectibles with Josh Luber, Plus, Would You Rather: Josh Allen Edition

Today, Jesse and Mike are joined by guest BCW Tim. They begin the show by discussing Juan Soto’s hobby value after being traded (04:33) before talking about all of the high-value Topps cards that have yet to be pulled (15:12). Next, they debate which football players from their childhood will hold up (28:03), and Tim shares details and organization methods from his non-sports collection (48:06). Finally, they answer mailbag questions (62:51).

Hosts: Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi
Guest: BCW Tim
Producer: Olivia Crerie
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Does Transfer News Mean It’s Time to Dump? Plus, Biggest Undiscovered Cards With BCW Tim

Mike goes solo, sharing strong NFL takes, including thoughts on Baker Mayfield (0:00). Later, he’s joined by Nate Burns of Grand Slam Collectibles to discuss how collecting has changed over time. They talk about the impact of social media, influencers, and shifts in the collecting experience (8:00).

Host: Mike Gioseffi
Guest: Nate Burns
Producer: Devon Renaldo
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NFL Insights and Nate Burns on the Evolving World of Collecting

This week, Mike and Jesse are back at it, diving deep into the heated NFL MVP race between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson (0:00). Next, they chat with Bob Orban from Big Bob’s Cards to break down the current landscape of Bowman Draft (27:30), and then wrap up with some card news from Beckett Collectibles and Upper Deck (46:00).

Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson
Guest: Bob Orban
Producer: Devon Renaldo
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MVP Showdown, Bowman Draft Talk, and Upper Deck's Big Update

On the last show of the year, Jesse and Mike are joined by Jason Shephard. They begin the show by discussing NFL card value as the season ends, and which quarterbacks have the potential to rise. After, they hand out their hobby superlatives, from favorite guest to biggest story of the year (35:55). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (63:06).

Hosts: Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi
Guest: Jason Shephard
Producer: Olivia Crerie
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2024 Hobby Awards | Plus, Holiday Sales and NFL Card Values with Shep

New year, new Panini problems? Mike and Jesse start the show by breaking down the latest controversy surrounding Panini’s patch issues, raising questions about player-worn vs. game-used materials in sports memorabilia (0:00). They also discuss the company’s broader struggles before answering your mailbag questions and hinting at some exciting updates for the show (1:06:00).
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2025 Kicks Off With a Panini Patch Problem

This week, Mike and Jesse tackle the latest NFL action, plus they’re joined by Tim McEnery of BCW Supplies to share insights on his standout anchor collection, the world of grading companies, the wild conspiracy theories shaping the card collecting scene, and their personal favorites when it comes to the best card shows around.

﻿Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson
Guest: Tim McEnery
Producer: Devon Renaldo
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NFL Talk, Card Collecting Conspiracies, and Top Card Shows With Tim McEnery

This week, Mike and Jesse are joined by two guests, starting with attorney Paul Lesko. Paul breaks down the lawsuit between Fanatics and Panini before sharing his favorite cases in the hobby (10:34). After, they are joined by listener of the show Brian Kroeger, who shares his experience starting a card show in Illinois (27:51). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (60:30).

Hosts: Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi
Guests: Paul Lesko and Brian Kroeger
Producer: Olivia Crerie
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Hobby Legal Drama: Paul Lesko on Lawsuits Shaping the Card World. Plus, How to Start a Card Show With Brian Kroeger

Mike and Jesse are back, and Mike starts the show with a rant on the value of football playoff sports cards (02:55). Later, they are joined by Upper Deck president Jason Masherah to ask him about what's coming to Upper Deck, why it's difficult to be a breaker with Upper Deck, licenses for players, and much more (22:06). After, Mike and Jesse discuss their recent rips (53:00), talk about their upcoming show, and answer your mailbag questions (68:54)

Hosts: Jesse Gibson and Mike Gioseffi
Guest: Jason Masherah
Producer: Olivia Crerie
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Jayden Daniels Card Hype and Upper Deck President Jason Masherah on Redemptions and the Licensing “Wild West”

Mike and Jesse wrap up the week with a range of updates, including the upcoming release of Topps Chrome Football, changes to eBay seller fees in the U.K., and PSA’s grading delays and price hikes (0:00). Later, Eddie Mancini from SCN Breaks joins the conversation to discuss Bowman’s Best, diving into top players like Acuña and Bellinger, and to share insights on the current state of the baseball card market (22:50).

Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson
Guest: Eddie Mancini
Producer: Devon Renaldo
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Hobby Update: Topps Chrome, eBay Changes, PSA Grading, and Bowman’s Best

Jesse and Mike begin the show by talking about their biggest learnings from the Topps Conference in Atlanta. After that, they talk about the incoming NBA rookie draft class, the popularity of UFC and WWE cards, marketing strategies to grow the hobby, and the growth of cards outside of sports (16:00). Plus, they talk about some of the comments they received about their GaryVee interview before closing out the episode with some mailbag questions (01:07:20).

Hosts: Jesse Gibson and Mike GioseffiProducer: Troy Farkas
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Topps Conference Reaction, NBA Rookie Class Expectations, Rising Popularity of Non-Sports Cards, and GaryVee Interview Reaction

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