Jonathan Swan on 'Trump's Last Stand,' the need to 'capture history' and the importance of leaks

Jonathan Swan shares what he has learned about President Trump's final weeks in office, including a feud with Fox News and a conspiracy-drenched shouting match in the Oval Office. Swan, a national political correspondent for Axios, has published a long-form investigative series called "Off the Rails" and a narrative podcast, "How It Happened: Trump's Last Stand," about his reporting. "This is probably the strongest compulsion I've had in my career" and "the most driven I've been to get something out quickly," he says. "I just felt this overwhelming urgency to get it out. What I was hearing was not stuff I could sit on." Swan also explains why this deep-dive was a "dramatic departure" for Axios, otherwise known for "Smart Brevity." To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices