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The New York Times

Popcast is hosted by Jon Caramanica, a pop music critic for The New York Times, and Joe Coscarelli, a culture reporter for The New York Times. It covers the latest in popular music criticism, trends and news. 

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Popcast

Audrey Hobert has been one of the defining new pop stars of 2026, rising to fame — gradually — with her 2025 album “Who’s the Clown?” after co-writing some of her longtime friend Gracie Abrams’s biggest hits. She sat down with Joe and Jon to discuss the secrets to her songwriting success, navigating her career alongside Gracie Abrams and brother Malcom Todd, using screenwriting and comedy to inform her music and writing her next album.

 

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Audrey Hobert on ‘Sue Me’ Success, Gracie Abrams, Malcolm Todd & Her Next Album

In his first interview since stepping away from his streaming empire for most of the last year to create the fashion label Vivet, Kai Cenat sat down with Joe and Jon to discuss the challenges of starting a new venture from scratch, hanging out with celebrities like Lebron James and Nicki Minaj, his fear of being boxed in creatively by fame at such a young age and the liberty afforded by that same success. 

Kai's first Vivet collection will have its runway debut on Sep. 12.

 

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Kai Cenat on Quitting Streaming at His Peak to Start a Fashion Brand

Busta Rhymes sat down with Joe and Jon to discuss his new album, “Dillagence 2,” out Aug. 25 – a project curated from hundreds of unreleased J Dilla beats and featuring D’Angelo, Lil Wayne and Common. He spoke about the emotional weight of creating music with the work of friends who have passed away; his enduring influence on artists like Kendrick Lamar and Doechii; touring across genres ranging from Missy Elliott to David Bowie; and why artists should never stop advocating for themselves, no matter their age. 

 

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How Busta Rhymes Turned 300 Unreleased J Dilla Beats Into His New Album

Comedian Stavros Halkias sat down with Joe and Jon to talk about the state of modern comedy, including how wealth and fame are impacting A-list comedians and why the rightward creep of his peers’ podcasts have “forced” him to get political. The interview also covers how Halkias’ weight has influenced his comedy, as well as his role in the Anthony Bourdain biopic “Tony” and his Netflix stand-up special “Uncle Stav.”

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Stavros Halkias Was Forced to Get Political: ‘I Hate It!’

Travis Barker, whose new Hulu documentary “Travis Barker: Louder Than Fear” is out August 13, sat down with Joe and Jon to reflect on his music career with Blink-182 and beyond, overcoming the trauma of his 2008 plane crash and family life with Kourtney Kardashian. 

 

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The Mindful Punk: Travis Barker on Music, Family & Trauma

Ella Langley? Drake? A.I.?! Jon and Joe battle through an eight-song bracket of the summer’s biggest hits to determine the Song of the Summer for 2026. Songs featured in bracket: 

• Tame Impala & JENNIE – “Dracula (JENNIE Remix)” 

 • Ella Langley – “Choosin’ Texas” 

 • Drake – “Janice STFU” 

 • Stella Lefty – “Boston” 

 • Yung Miami – “Spend Dat” 

 • Fenix Flexin and Purps On The Beat – “Rubberz” 

 • Don Toliver – “E85” 

 • Zara Larsson – “Midnight Sun”

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The 8 Biggest Songs of This Summer Face Off

In a career-spanning interview following some recent anniversary concerts, Conor Oberst sat down with Joe and Jon to discuss the highs and lows of his 30-year music career, including navigating early indie stardom, overcoming personal struggles, writing political music and more.

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How Bright Eyes’ Conor Oberst Came Back From The Brink

The Internet’s Syd, Steve Lacy and Matt Martians sat down with Joe and Jon for their first interview together since "Hive Mind," their 2018 album. The group discussed their new solo projects — Syd’s album “Beard” and Lacy’s “Oh yeah?” are both out July 17 — as well as their Odd Future roots, writing for Beyoncé, TikTok fame and what’s next for the band.

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The Internet – Steve Lacy! Syd! Matt Martians! – Reunites

Ahead of Jay-Z’s three-night residency at Yankee Stadium celebrating the anniversaries of his classic albums “Reasonable Doubt” (1996) and “The Blueprint” (2001), Jon and Joe sat down to debate which project stands as Jay-Z’s most definitive body of work – breaking down the best bars, skippable tracks, MVP collaborators and more.

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Which Jay-Z Album Is Better? ‘Reasonable Doubt’ vs. ‘The Blueprint’

During a special live edition of “Popcast,” Lizzo discussed her new album and the public fallout from a series of lawsuits. Then she performed a stripped-down set, which you can watch in full here.

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Popcast LIVE! Lizzo Addresses the Backlash

A survey of the biggest and best albums released recently, including Drake and PartyNextDoor's “Some Sexy Songs 4 U," the Weeknd's “Hurry Up Tomorrow,” Central Cee’s “Can’t Rush Greatness,” Oklou’s “Choke Enough” and other recommendations. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify
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Drake’s Careful Comeback + New Music Round-Up (The Weeknd, Central Cee, Oklou & More)

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