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BBC Radio 4


Nick Robinson has a conversation with, not an interrogation of, the people who shape our political thinking about what shaped theirs.


Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The Chancellor reflects on her first six months in power and what lies behind her determination that she has "what it takes" to "turn things around".

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Rachel Reeves Chancellor One

The Labour MP sits down with Nick to reflect on how she went from selling beds in her Yorkshire hometown, to being at the forefront of political debate, as the face of the campaign to legalise assisted dying, and how the murder of her sister, Jo Cox, helps explain the journey.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Kim Leadbeater One

The Shadow Home Secretary joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to reflect on mistakes of the last government, humility in opposition and his anger at the new government.

Chris Philp also opens up about the impact of caring for his premature baby twins and what he has learned from success and failure in business. 

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Chris Philp One

Who is the 38-year-old, Muslim, second-generation immigrant chairman of Reform UK?

Zia Yusuf joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to tell his story, lay out his party's path to power, and share his thoughts on Boris Johnson, Elon Musk, Suella Braverman and his boss, Nigel Farage.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Zia Yusuf One

The Chief Inspector of Prisons for England and Wales on how he went from being a teacher at a school for kids with beahvioural problems, to being the leading voice on prison conditions. 

He tells stories of cheap suits, perspex windows, being the subject of offensive graffiti, and explains how he retains optimism.

Producers: Lauren Tavriger and Daniel Kraemer

The Charlie Taylor One

The Transport Secretary on Corbyn, Ukraine and growing up in Swindon

Producer: Lauren Tavriger

The Heidi Alexander One

The co-leader of the Green Party of England and Wales joins Nick for a conversation

The Carla Denyer 2025 One

An exclsuive in-depth interview with the Rishi Sunak. In this first instalment, the former prime minister tells stories from behind the scenes on the world stage explains why he thinks we must now cut welfare spending to fund defence.

Sunak reflects on how a sense of duty - inspired by his Hindu faith - helped drive his political career, and reflects on how and why he ultimately led the Conservative Party to the worst electoral defeat in its history.

Producers: Daniel Kraemer and Joel Massey

The Rishi Sunak Lessons from Downing Street One

In the second, bonus instalment of this exclusive interview with the former prime minister, Rishi Sunak opens up about his time as Chancellor and Prime Minister, including how his relationship with Boris Johnson fell apart, why he regrets his "Stop the Boats" slogan and what comes next for someone who has become an elder statesman, aged 44.

Producers: Daniel Kraemer and Joel Massey

Bonus: The Rishi Sunak Lessons from Downing Street One - Part 2

To mark the 80th anniversary of VE Day, former president Joe Biden sits down with Nick Robinson for an exclusive interview, his first since leaving the White House.

He issues a stark warning about the future of the western alliance and criticises his successor’s approach to foreign policy.

In this extended interview, Biden also reflects on his decision to drop out of the 2024 election and the state of democracy in the US.

Producers: Kirsty MacKenzie, Daniel Kraemer and Daniel Macadam
Editor: Giles Edwards

The Joe Biden One

The Head of the Palestinian Mission to the UK reflects on a childhood in a Gaza refugee camp and how hope is what keeps him going.

Update: This episode has been edited to remove a brief exchange suggesting that an interim finding by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) found it plausible that genocide had been committed in Gaza. The ICJ actually decided that the Palestinians had a plausible right to be protected from genocide and we’re happy to make that clear.

The Husam Zomlot One

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