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BBC Radio 4


Nick Robinson has a conversation with, not an interrogation of, the people who shape our political thinking about what shaped theirs.


Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The German Chancellor speaks candidly about Trump's attitude to Europe, war on the continent, and the future relationship Britain

Producer: Daniel Kraemer
Researcher: Chloe Desave
Editor: Giles Edwards

The Friedrich Merz One

The Lib Dem Justice Spokesperson managed to persuade ministers to change domestic abuse law within a year of being elected to parliament. 

Josh Babarinde tells Nick how his own childhood experience spurred him on to push for reform. 

He also explains how a beer mat persuaded him to join the Liberal Democrats.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Josh Babarinde One

After some of the most tumultuous days of his premiership, Keir Starmer sits down with Nick in Downing Street, to reflect on a year in power. 

In a wide-ranging interview, the prime minister defends his style of leadership, while taking responsibility for the setbacks.

He also opens up about losing his brother last year and his personal relationship with President Trump

Producers: Daniel Kraemer, Leela Padmanabhan and Chloe Desave

The Keir Starmer Prime Minister One

A Republican Congressman outlines the values that lie behind his conservative politics.

Scott Perry is the Representative for Pennsylvania's 10th District, a Trump ally, an Iran hawk who sits on the Foreign Affairs Committee, and a veteran, who flew combat missions in Iraq before turning his attention to politics.

He joins Nick down the line from Washington DC, in the aftermath of his President's decision to drop bombs on Iran. 

Perry tells the story of how he went from growing up in a household with no electricity or running water, to being elected to the "most important deliberative body on the planet".

Trump's America: The Scott Perry One

The Trade Minister explains how a penalty shootout played a role in his government appointment.

Douglas Alexander has the same job that he had 20 years ago in Tony Blair's government. He reflects on how the world has changed in that time, and his motivation for returning to politics after a humiliating defeat in 2015.

The Douglas Alexander One

The Shadow Chancellor sets out his vision for a more "thoughtful" politics and faces up to the challenge of winning the argument before the next general election.

Sir Mel Stride reveals what he admires about his opposite number, Rachel Reeves, and why a world war two commander is one of his political heroes.

He also has a warning about what the British economy would look like under Nigel Farage. 

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Mel Stride One

How does it feel to be held up as the 'anti-Trump' by progressives across the globe?

Jacinda Ardern was prime minister of New Zealand for 6 years and is now committed to promoting empathy and kindness in world leadership. 

She joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to reflect on her unexpected rise to power and being described as a 'global pinup for progressive values'.

She also opens up about how growing up in a Mormon family prepared her for politics and reveals what she told Donald Trump in the aftermath of the murder of 51 people in a mosque in New Zealand in 2019.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Jacinda Ardern One

After 15 years as a member of the House of Lords, Tanni Grey-Thompson reflects on how a career at the top of sport prepared her for the world of politics.

The crossbench peer speaks to Nick about what she sees as a dangerous relationship between benefit reforms and legalising assisted dying.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Tanni Grey-Thompson One

The First Minister of Wales sets a marker to the left of Keir Starmer, setting out her vision of a "Red Welsh Way", drawing inspiration from Gavin and Stacey.

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Eluned Morgan One

Reform UK’s deputy leader reflects on a year of political success, a privileged upbringing and the cabinet job he’s eyeing up

Producer: Daniel Kraemer

The Richard Tice One

The former Defence Secretary opens up about the impact of high-pressure government jobs on family relations and tells the behind-the-scenes story of the lead-up to the Ukraine War and his take on the “poison” in British politics.

The Ben Wallace 2023 One

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