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Producer: Donna Killeen

Podcast UFO is your destination for compelling audio programs focused on UFOs, close encounters, and the people behind the phenomena. Hear firsthand accounts from eyewitnesses, insights from experts, and discussions on sightings, government secrecy, and more. Want to get involved? Visit our website to learn how to join the conversation. Starting September 2025, we’ll be streaming live on YouTube every Tuesday at 8:00 PM ET and Some Thursdays at 8:00 PM ET. UFO Headlines every first Thursday of the month at 8:00 PM ET. Tune in and be part of the journey!

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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear By the time Project Blue Book was terminated, most UFO researchers, especially in the United States, were of the opinion that UFOs were nuts and bolts craft piloted by flesh and blood creatures from other planets. This is what has become known as the extraterrestrial hypothesis or ETH. At around the same time, as the 1960s gave way to the 1970s, Jacques Vallée had one book published and John Keel had two published, that challenged the ETH, and caused many in the UFO community to consider other options.Vallée had his first UFO book, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, published in 1965 and his second, Challenge to Science, co-written with his wife, Janine, published in 1966. Both books make the argument that the UFO mystery is worthy of scientific study and present the elements of the problem in an organized manner in an effort to facilitate such study. In what would become characteristic in Vallée’s books, he presents accounts going back to antiquity, and he presents a lot of them. The books are lengthy and dry and hold little appeal for the average UFO enthusiast looking for sensational accounts of sightings and encounters. 

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AudioBlog: Jacques Vallée and John Keel Challenge the ETH

** NOTE: There is an occasional echo with Tim's audio that was only caught in postproduction, but the echo is mostly toward the end. I had it worked on for several hours, and improved it as much as possible. ~ Former Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet returns to Podcast UFO for an in-depth discussion of UAP, USO, ocean mysteries, government transparency, and the search for answers. Gallaudet clarifies his role on the newly formed UAP Science Advisory Council reporting to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, alongside Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. He discusses the council’s effort to obtain and analyze Pentagon UAP data, including reports involving possible anomalous objects detected by U.S. submarines. The conversation focuses heavily on undersea anomalies. Gallaudet describes reported encounters in which submarine crews detected objects moving at extraordinary speeds underwater, including one alleged sonar contact recorded at 80 knots. He explains why the oceans, much of which remain poorly explored, may be a logical place for elusive phenomena to operate beyond public observation. We also discuss metallic sphere reports, unreleased military video, the need for rigorous scientific study, artificial intelligence in UAP research, compartmentalization within government programs, and whether the public is finally moving closer to meaningful disclosure. Tim also talks about his new book, *Holding Fast in Heavy Seas*, a leadership memoir reflecting on his Navy career and his time leading NOAA through difficult political and scientific challenges. Could UAP represent advanced adversary technology, unknown engineering, or something genuinely non-human? Tim Gallaudet explains why either possibility deserves serious attention.

**PLEASE NOTE: There is an occasional echo with Tim's audio that was not caught in production, but mostly toward the end. I had it worked on for several hours, and improved it as much as possible. I apologize, Martin

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766. Tim Galladaut

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear Among the many possible explanations for UFOs is that some UFOs might be creatures that live in the sky. The person who became best known for this idea was Trevor James Constable who presented it, along with infrared photos of what he claimed were bioforms invisible to the naked eye, in his 1958 book (as Trevor James) They Live in the Sky. James wasn’t alone in his belief, and the concept of sky creatures goes back farther than 1958 in both speculative literature and science fiction.A good starting point for the history of the sky-creatures hypothesis is the 1997 paper by Jerome Clark, Spacemen, Demons and Conspiracies, published by the Fund for UFO Research. Clark explores the many explanations for UFOs put forward throughout the years and looks at the SCH in the section “Secret Weapons and Space Animals.” After going into the speculation by people such as James Moseley, Leon Davidson, and Jacques Vallée that flying saucers/UFOs can be explained as classified secret weapons, Clark delves into the history of the sky-creature concept. 

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AudioBlog: UFOs as Sky Creatures

Rony Vernet returns to Podcast UFO to discuss his field investigations into unusual phenomena reported in the Amazon rainforest and other remote regions of Brazil. An electrical engineer and researcher, Vernet shares accounts from indigenous communities involving luminous orbs, humanoid figures, strange lights, apparent equipment interference, and encounters that local residents believe originate from the forest itself. Martin and Rony also discuss the Peru flying humanoid reports, the Varginha case, alleged Brazilian military and police encounters with UAPs and beings, and the difficulty of collecting repeatable scientific data in unpredictable field conditions. Vernet explains his use of cameras, drones, infrared equipment, sensors, and other tools, along with why some of the most striking incidents reportedly involved lost or corrupted recordings. The conversation explores possible physical, spiritual, psychological, and interdimensional interpretations of the phenomenon, as well as Rony’s upcoming work and documentaries.
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765. Rony Vernet

Martin Willis is joined by Donna Killeen, UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich for UFO Headlines, discussing the latest developments in the UAP and UFO world. Martin and Donna share highlights from the recent Disclosure Forum in Washington, DC, including Martin’s question to Representative Eric Burlison about government file releases, private-sector crash-retrieval claims, and the search for more meaningful transparency. The panel also discusses the latest UAP records release, unusual orb reports, the role of skeptics, government disclosure efforts, archival research, and major historic cases including Roswell, Ariel School, Phoenix Lights, and Rendlesham Forest. They also explore the larger questions: Could there be multiple intelligences behind the phenomenon, and what evidence would it take for the public to truly accept the reality of UAP?
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766. UFO Headlines

Guest Joe Biscotto, founder of the rapidly growing UAP Reporting Center and host of Beyond Top Secret. Joe discusses his background in law enforcement, his lifelong fascination with UFOs and the unexplained, and how he built one of the fastest-growing UAP news platforms online. We also talk about UFO disclosure, investigating sightings, social media’s impact on the subject, and his work with The Contact Report.

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764. Joe Biscotto

Rhys Dalton-Morgan joins me from Contact in the Desert for a fascinating conversation about a remarkable family connection to one of Australia’s most intriguing UFO cases. Rhys’s grandfather, a decorated RAF fighter pilot and later operations head of the vast Woomera Test Range in South Australia, reportedly witnessed a bright disc-shaped object during the era of Black Knight rocket testing. According to Rhys’s research, the object was seen over the range by multiple personnel, appeared to circle a missile site, and then accelerated away at extraordinary speed. The case has since led Rhys into a deeper investigation of his grandfather’s military background, including a reported early involvement with a secret U.S.-U.K. UFO inquiry. We also discuss Rhys’s mother’s personal experiences, the role of respected Australian researcher Bill Chalker, the strange history surrounding Woomera, and some of Australia’s most compelling cases. Later, Rhys gives an excellent overview of the 1966 Westall school UFO incident, including the witnesses, reported landings, unusual aircraft, alleged military response, and some lesser-known details surrounding the event. We also touch on Australian high strangeness, alleged abduction cases, cryptid reports including the Yowie, and why the UFO phenomenon may be far more complex than simply unexplained technology.

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763. Rhys Dalton-Morgan Grandfather Saw a UFO at a Secret Test Range

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 
Ted Bloecher, who passed away not too long ago at the age of 94, was a researcher/investigator who started out in the days of flying saucers as a founding member of Civilian Saucer Intelligence of New York and was active until the mid-1980s. He was an early researcher of humanoid reports starting in 1955, just after the 1954 French humanoid wave and the 1955 Kelly-Hopkinsville incident, and was the author of numerous publications on the subject. Tucked away in the United Kingdom file of the downloads section of the Archives for the Unexplained website is a report he wrote titled Close Encounters of the Third Kind that was published in 1977 by the British UFO Research Association. According to the introduction, the paper was prepared for a talk he gave at the BUFORA National UFO Conference at the Centre Hotel in Birmingham, England, in November 1976. The subtitle describes the paper as “The preliminary presentation of extensive study into UFO cases involving the reported sightings of humanoids and other alien beings.” In this blog, we’ll look at some of the highlights. Read more →

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AudioBlog: Ted Bloecher's Talk on Hummanoids at the 1976 BUFORA Conference

Actor, writer, and technology innovator Sal Amato joins Martin Willis for a fascinating discussion on UFOs, disclosure, media influence, and the inspiration behind his upcoming novel, Hidden Powers: Disclosure From Within. Drawing from decades of interest in unexplained phenomena, technology, and human behavior, Sal shares his thoughts on historical UFO cases, the 1952 Washington, D.C. sightings, information control, and why curiosity is essential when exploring extraordinary claims. The conversation also explores how technology shapes public perception, the challenges of separating fact from fiction, and the themes of disclosure, power, and truth woven throughout his new book. An engaging discussion for anyone interested in UFOs, mysteries, and the bigger questions surrounding what we know—and what we may not know.
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762. Sal Amato

Martin Willis is joined by Podcast UFO producer Donna Killeen, UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich for a lively, spoiler-filled roundtable discussion of one of the most anticipated UFO films in recent memory. The panel shares their honest reactions to the movie, explores its many references to UFO history and lore, and debates whether Spielberg successfully captured the mystery, wonder, and complexity of the UFO phenomenon. Topics include experiencers, screen memories, government secrecy, whistleblowers, historical UFO cases, disclosure, and the film's surprising ending. Was Disclosure Day a groundbreaking UFO movie, a fun science-fiction adventure, or a missed opportunity? Tune in to hear a range of perspectives from voices deeply involved in the UFO community. Plus, the panel discusses some of the real-world UFO developments making headlines and what the movie may mean for public interest in the UFO topic going forward.
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761. ⚠️ SPOILER ALERT ⚠️ DISCLOSURE DAY: UFO Podcasters React

FIRST SEGMENT: Matthew Kresal on his book, Dark Skies and talks about his research into the making of the series, how he delved into the history of the UFO phenomenon and how the history of government disinformation comes into play and much more. SECOND SEGMENT: Co-creator of Dark Skies, Bryce Zabel joins is to discuss behind the scenes of Dark Skies, and then a new project he has in the works, featuring the Betty & Barney Hill Incident. Check out the show notes for links. Show Notes

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407. Matt Kresal & Bryce Zabel Show

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