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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them.

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New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Peloton! 

On today’s episode, we get right into Jason and Travis’ reactions to the album you first heard about on this show, Taylor Swift’s “Life of a Showgirl.” We get into Jason’s favorite songs, how Travis felt watching this album come to life, which song is on repeat in the Kelce house, and Jason’s thoughts on “Wood.” 

We also talk a little football and recap the Chiefs coming up short against the Jags in a wild Monday Night Football game, the Eagles taking their first loss against the Broncos, and the rest of a wild week 5 in the NFL, including fumbled INTs, fumbled TDs, and a pitch to leave the Jets in England. 

Jason also recaps his time outta the house in Jacksonville, where he somehow joined a Beer League Hockey team, and we hand out some Stamps of the Week to some 92%ers who took Halloween to New Heights. 

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The Fate of the Chiefs, Jason gets Cancelled! and The Life of a Showgirl Review | Ep 158

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Peloton! 

Travis breaks down the Chiefs offense, finally getting rolling against the Ravens, what it felt like to get Xavier Worthy back, and Patty Mahomes breaking even more records. Jason dives into the Eagles big win in Tampa, explains why the AJ Brown tweets are actually a good thing, and lets us know which Broncos player is on notice next week. 

We also look at everything else from an exciting week 4 including why we love coach fights, who had that most down bad quote of the week, how we’d fix the embarrassment that is a tie game, Jason recaps his time in Ireland, and we hand out a very long awaited Stamp of the fucking Week. 

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Travis is Feeling 2-2, Eagles 4-0 Frustrations, Coach Fights and Jason's Ireland Adventure | Ep 157

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo® Cups! 

We are joined today by two Hollywood legends, Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio del Toro! 

But first, we’ve gotta talk about the insanity that was week 3 in the NFL. Travis breaks down the Chiefs getting in the win column against the Giants, Jason reveals the real superstition behind the Eagles incredible comeback, and we try to make sense of what was the wildest witching hour of the season. 

And finally, Leo and Benicio join us to talk all things One Battles After Another, give us the backstory on some of the biggest moments from their incredible careers, explain the difficulty of “quaalude acting,” reveal the worst career advice they’ve ever received, open up about their “Welcome to Hollywood” moments, and so much more! 

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Chiefs' First Win, Thiccest Sixes and Leonardo DiCaprio & Benicio del Toro's First Podcast | Ep 156

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo® Cups! 

We’ve got an amazing guest episode for you today with NFL Hall of Famer Deion Sanders. 

Coach Prime joins Jason and Travis and gets into what life is like at Colorado now that his sons are gone, when he thinks Shedeur is going to make his debut in Cleveland, what actually happened on draft night, how he really felt about joining the 90s Cowboys, why Jerry Jones might be the greatest owner in sports,and we get the truth behind some of the best Deion rumors of all time. 

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Deion Sanders on Missing Shedeur, 90s Cowboys Aura and Becoming Prime Time | Ep 155

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo® Cups! 

Today, we are joined by the incredible host of The Tonight Show, Jimmy Fallon! 

Jimmy joins us to talk about everything from throwing putters into lakes, the secrets to talking football on TV, how to plan a wedding, and he’s got an incredible pitch to Travis for an end zone celebration. 

Jason and Travis also talk about everything else from Week 2 in the NFL. We get into the Chiefs coming up short against the Eagles and how he’s feeling about that goal line drop, what the league might do to the “tush push,” why players' only meetings might be a waste of time, Baker’s incredible comeback, and so much more! 

We also take some of your calls on the Heights Hotline about getting pulled over, turf toe, and potty training secrets. 

We will be back Monday 9/22 with Coach Prime himself, Deion Sanders! 

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Travis on Crucial Drop, Jason's Tired of Talkin' Tush & Fightin' Grandma with Jimmy Fallon | Ep 154

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo® Cups! 

We’ve got an amazing episode for you today recapping all the insanity that was week 1 in the NFL and we have an incredible conversation with Rob Riggle and Kevin Hart to preview next week’s Chiefs/Eagles game! 

First, Travis recaps the Chiefs time down in Brazil. We get into what happened on the collision with Xavier Worthy, the fire drill field goal, and what the Chiefs are taking away from the loss to the Chargers. 

Jason also gives us all the details on the Eagles game against the Cowboys. We get into how he feels about “spitgate,” AJ Brown not getting the ball, and how we can fix weather delays. 

We also touch on everything from around the league including the absolute banger that was the Sunday Night Football game between the Ravens and Bills, why WR1s struggled out the gate, which veteran QB has found the best new home, and so much more! 

Finally, Rob Riggle and Kevin Hart face off in our first ever fan off. They fight about who has the better home crowd, the special kind of mayhem that is a Philly game day, share some incredible heckling stories, reveal why Kevin is on the “threat list” at the Linc, and most importantly, make their case for who’s winning on Sunday. 

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Chiefs Brazilian Bummer, "Spitgate" and Chiefs-Eagles showdown with Kevin Hart & Rob Riggle | Ep 153

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by Reese’s Oreo Cups! 

On today’s episode, we get right to the announcement that took over the internet last week, Travis shares his advice for other 92%ers thinking of popping the question, Jason clarifies who brought jorts for Jason at the Bearcats game, we also break down the Chiefs week 1 trip to Brazil, and the Eagles hanging a banner in front of the Cowboys. 

Later Chiefs legend Alex Smith joins us to help break down everything about the upcoming NFL season. We get into his favorite stories about rookie Travis, what life is like as a #1 pick, the QBs he can’t wait to watch this season, his thoughts on the Ben Johnson hire in Chicago, why he thinks the Jags might be a sleeper playoff team, and we take a few calls from the Heights Hotline. 

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Engagement Advice, Eagles Banner Night, Chiefs in Brazil & NFL Season Preview with Alex Smith | EP 152

92%ers, welcome to another episode of New Heights brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV!

On today’s episode, we break down everything that’s happened since our literal record-breaking episode with Taylor Swift. Jason and Travis react to some of the best comments, debate whether Otters are the best wild animal to befriend, and maybe even share some behind-the-scenes stories. 

And football is ALMOST back! So naturally we recap everything about the Chiefs preseason, Travis shares what went into his preparation for this season, Jason shares some incredible stories from Eagles training camp, we try to make sense of the Micah Parson’s situation in Dallas, and Travis makes the case for starting Shedeur Sanders. 

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A Swift Debrief, Travis’ Preseason Prep and Starting Shedeur | EP 151

92%ers, welcome to a very special pre-season episode of New Heights!

On today’s episode, we are joined by singer, songwriter, producer, director, and the most requested guest in the history of New Heights, Taylor Swift! 

Taylor joins Travis and Jason to talk about her journey to reclaim her master recordings, what she’s been up to after the record-breaking The Eras Tour, her experience as a member of Chiefs kingdom, and all the details on her new album, The Life of a Showgirl! 

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Taylor Swift on Reclaiming Her Masters, Wrapping The Eras Tour, and The Life of a Showgirl | NHTV

92%ers welcome back to another best of episode of New Heights, brought to you by our friends at Draft Kings - The Crown is Yours! 

On today’s episode, we are giving you the best of some of our incredible conversations with celebrities! 

You’ll hear stories from Adam Sandler, Ben Affleck, Lil Dicky, Bill Murray, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Brad Pitt, Ben Stiller, Will Ferrell, Niecy Nash, Jason Sudeikis, and Scott Van Pelt.

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On episode three of 'New Heights', Travis talks about the Chiefs win over the Chargers (07:00), being body slammed by Derwin James and how it compares to the time he shattered a hardwood floor (07:38), and why players should care about their PFF rankings (23:19). Jason breaks down the Eagles dominant win over the Vikings (28:07), Jalen Hurts emergence as QB1 (29:40), and why the Eagles/Vikings rivalry might just be for the fans (40:25). The guys also debate the best goal line play (57:35 ) and whether or not Tom Brady deserves a rest day (01:02:25). We wrap up with Travis talking about avoiding trap games (01:12:30) and Jason shares memories of playing with Carson Wentz before their reunion in Washington (01:14:33).

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