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Weekly podcast on the events, policies and ideas that will shape the world.World in 30 minutes is curated by Mark Leonard, Director of the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR), and features top-level speakers from across the EU and beyond to debate and discuss Europe’s role in the world. It was awarded “Best podcasts on EU politics” by PolicyLab in 2019.Member of the EuroPod network.
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Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

Following on from January 2nd’s prediction episode, Mark Leonard hosts Julien Barnes-Dacey, ECFR’s Middle East programme director, Alex Vines, ECFR’s Africa programme director, Andrew Small, ECFR’s Asia programme director, and Jana Kobzová, co-director of ECFR’s European Security programme, to discuss what challenges Europe should focus on in 2026.

 

How will global politics shift in 2026? Will we finally see an end to the war in Ukraine? How are the ongoing protests in Iran affecting the likelihood of an Israeli attack? What’s next for the Gaza peace deal? What are the major points of conflict that will shape Africa this year? And will Europeans finally confront China’s growing influence?

 

Bookshelf

The War Came to Us: Life and Death in Ukraine by Christopher Miller

Indignity: A Life Reimagined by Lea Ypi

Transformed by the People: Hayat Tahrir al-Sham’s Road to Power in Syria by Patrick Haenni and Jerome Drevon

Sahel: The Perfect Storm by Morten Bøås

China’s Economy: Rightsizing 2025, Looking Ahead to 2026 by Daniel H. Rosen, Logan Wright, Oliver Melton and Jeremy Smith (Rhodium Group)

 

This podcast was recorded on January 8th 2026

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The world in 2026

On January 3rd, the US military struck Venezuela and captured its president, Nicolás Maduro. Trump has declared that America will now “run” the country, shifting from a narrative which had focused on the US fighting a war against drug traffickers to a narrative which sees the US assert control over Venezuela’s massive oil reserves.

 

Mark Leonard is joined by Jeremy Shapiro, ECFR research director, and Nacho Torreblanca, ECFR distinguished policy fellow, to discuss why America decided to capture Maduro and what this could mean for the domestic situation in Venezuela—as well as its wider implications for other areas, including Greenland.

 

What were Trump’s motivations? Will the US increasingly use military force to secure resources and territory across the Americas and the north Atlantic? And could Greenland be next? 

 

Bookshelf

 

Morir en la arena (To Die in the Sand) by Leonardo Padura

The Revolutionary Temper: Paris, 1748-1789 by Robert Darnton

 

This podcast was recorded on January 5th 2026

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Trump attacks Venzuela

This week Mark Leonard is joined by Jeremy Shapiro, research director at ECFR, for their annual end-of-year tradition: marking last year’s predictions and making ten bold forecasts for the year ahead. They look at how their 2025 calls stacked up—from Trump to German politics to Ukraine, China and migration—before turning their attention to 2026.

 

Will the European far right continue its advance? Is an uneasy ceasefire in Ukraine finally within reach? How might US policy on Iran, China and Europe evolve under Trump? And what role will AI, energy security and debt crises play in shaping the year to come?

 

This podcast was recorded on December 30th 2025.

 

Bookshelf

The Dream Factory: London’s First Playhouse and the Making of William Shakespeare by Daniel Swift 

Ones and Tooze by Adam Tooze 

Wer verteidigt Europa?: Die neuen Kriegsgefahren und was wir tun müssen, um uns zu schützen by Jana Puglierin

Surviving Chaos: Geopolitics when the rules fail by Mark Leonard (April 2026) 

 

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Predictions and Reckonings: From 2025 to 2026

China’s tightening of export controls on rare earths and related technologies across 2025 marked a turning point in Europe’s economic security. Even with Beijing’s partial and momentary rollback after talks with Washington, a Damocles sword still hangs over Europe’s industrial base—from defence to semiconductors and clean tech. 

And with China’s upcoming 15th Five-Year Plan and Made in China 2035, Europe faces the triple threat of coercion, industrial corrosion and loss of sensitive business intelligence. 

 

This week, Mark Leonard welcomes Tobias Gehrke, senior policy fellow at ECFR covering economic security and European economic strategy, and Andrew Small, the new director of the ECFR’s Asia programme. Together, they discuss China’s current and future economic strategies—and actions that Europe should take in response. 

 

How seriously should Europeans take the threat of Chinese coercion? In which industries can Europe realistically compete with Beijing? And where are Europe’s potential partners in Asia, Africa and Latin America for alternative supply chains? 

 

This episode was recorded on December 15 2025 

Bookshelf 

Material World: The Six Raw Materials That Shape Modern Civilization by Ed Conway 

The Reckoning by David Halberstam 

“Isch vorbei” by Süddeutsche Zeitung 

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Made in China: How Europe can tackle economic coercion

This week, Mark Leonard welcomes Ellie Geranmayeh, senior policy fellow and deputy head of ECFR’s Middle East and North Africa programme, and Hugh Lovatt, senior policy fellow with ECFR’s MENA programme and chairman of the Brussels-based European Middle East Project (EuMEP). 

 

Together, they discuss Ellie’s and Hugh’s experiences at the Doha Forum: from Gaza’s fragile future and Iran’s nuclear conundrum, to America’s role as a security guarantor in the Middle East—especially for Iran’s nuclear deal. 

 

Will America still be considered as the security guarantor in the Arab world, or is Trump still interested in the Iran nuclear compromise? Will the outcome of a future Israeli election fundamentally change the country's foreign policy? And who holds the real power in Gaza’s future governance—the international community, or Palestinians themselves? 

This episode was recorded on December 10th 2025 

 

Bookshelf:

The Caravan: Abdallah Azzam and the Rise of Global Jihad by Thomas Hegghammer 

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After Doha: What’s next for the Arab world?

America has published its new National Security Strategy (NSS)—and it contains worrying rhetoric about the EU, European values and the transatlantic relationship. Russia, however, is never described as a threat or competitor. In fact, Moscow has welcomed the document as being “largely consistent with Russia’s vision”.

In this week’s episode, Mark Leonard welcomes Gladden Pappin, president of the Hungarian Institute of International Affairs, co-founder and deputy editor of American Affairs journal, and co-founder of the online magazine Postliberal Order, and Majda Ruge, senior policy fellow in ECFR’s US programme and long-time observer of the American right’s foreign policy. Together, they break down what’s behind the NSS and what its real impact on Europe might be.

What are the NSS’s ideological roots? How seriously should Europeans take the strategy and possible threats coming from the US? And what does the NSS mean for the future of the transatlantic relationship?

 

Bookshelf:

Reading Trump’s National Security Strategy: Europe through a distorted lens by Carl Bildt

It’s time Europe got to grips with the MAGA challenge, writes Mark Leonard by Mark Leonard

Europeans can’t let Trump define what it means to be European by Pawel Zerka

This episode was recorded on December 11th 2025

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Trump’s new National Security Strategy

China’s rise has long fascinated policymakers, economists and technologists. But few observers have studied the country’s technological ambitions as closely as Dan Wang, research fellow at the Hoover History Lab at Stanford University and author of Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future.

This week, Mark welcomes Dan to discuss the ideas behind his book, including the dichotomy between China’s “engineering state" and the West’s “lawyerly” societies. Together, they unpack what China is getting right—and where its model is lagging.

What is the Chinese government getting wrong? Is the Chinese model now coming under strain? What would it take for Europe to remain competitive in the 21st century? And how is China projecting its model across Africa and South-East Asia?

Bookshelf: 

Breakneck: China's Quest to Engineer the Future by Dan Wang 

Allies at War: How the Struggles Between the Allied Powers Shaped the War and the World by Tim Bouverie 

This episode was recorded on November 21st 2025 

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China's technological dominance

The European Council on Foreign Relations turned 18 in November 2025. This milestone offers a unique moment to reflect on the world in which ECFR was founded—and how dramatically it has changed. In 2007, Europe had the world’s confidence: democracy seemed secure, globalisation was a force for opportunity, EU enlargement was reshaping the continent, and peace felt almost guaranteed. So how did Europe move from the hopeful 2000s to a world of power blocs and war?

This week, Mark Leonard is joined by ECFR co-chairs Carl Bildt, former prime and foreign minister of Sweden, Lykke Friis, former Danish minister of climate, energy and gender equality, and Norbert Röttgen, member of the German parliament, to take stock, 18 years after ECFR began. They assess what Europe misunderstood then; what it must confront now; and what the next two decades might look like.

Why did Europe need a pan-European foreign policy think-tank like ECFR in 2007? Why does it still need one today? And how has ECFR has helped shape debates and policies over the past 18 years?

Bookshelf:

Waves of ambition: Russia’s military build-up in Crimea and the Black Sea

Why Crimea matters 

European Security 

This podcast was recorded on November 24th 2025.

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ECFR at 18: Has European foreign policy come of age?

In this emergency podcast episode, Mark Leonard welcomes Jana Kobzova, co-director of ECFR’s European Security Programme, and Jim O’Brien, former US assistant secretary of state for Europe and ECFR distinguished policy fellow, to dissect the leaked 28-point US-Russia framework for ending the Ukraine war. 

 

Kyiv has rejected the proposal as a capitulation and Europeans are insisting on a seat at the table. Together, Mark, Jana and Jim examine the feasibility of the plan’s core demands, given Ukraine’s battlefield resilience and Europe’s pushback. What does the plan reveal about the Trump administration’s approach? Can Europe shape a settlement that safeguards Ukraine’s sovereignty? Or will Ukraine be coerced into a deal on Russia’s terms?

 

This podcast was recorded on November 21st, 2025.

 

Bookshelf: 

Drunk: How We Sipped, Danced, and Stumbled Our Way to Civilization by Edward Slingerland

Algorithms for the People by Josh Simons

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Trump's 28-point plan for Ukraine

Europe’s most ambitious defence project is in deep trouble. Europe’s Future Combat Air System (FCAS), presented as the crown jewel of Franco-German cooperation, was meant to deliver a next-generation defence system ready to meet the demands of an increasingly dangerous world. Instead, the FCAS showcases diverging visions of European air power and raises questions about the continent’s strategic autonomy.

This week, Mark is joined by Ulrike Franke, ECFR senior policy fellow and expert on defence, security and drones. Together, they explore why FCAS keeps running into dead ends—from persistent rifts between Dassault and Airbus to political disagreements between Paris and Berlin.

What do the developments around the FCAS reveal about the strength of the Franco-German motor in the EU? What happens if the project collapses? And what would it mean for Europe’s quest for strategic autonomy?

Bookshelf:

Char de combat: obsolescence ou renaissance? by Léo Péria-Peigné

The ideas letter curated by Leonard Benardo

This episode was recorded on November 19th 2025

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The future of European air defence

Mark Leonard speaks with Asli Aydintasbas, Jeremy Shapiro and Julien Barnes-Dacey about what effect the incident might have on relations between Saudi Arabia, the US and Turkey. The podcast was recorded on the 16 October 2018. Bookshelf:The Jungle Grows Back by Robert Kagan https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/576193/the-jungle-grows-back-by-robert-kagan/9780525521655/The River of Doubt by Candice Millard http://www.candicemillard.com/river-of-doubt.htmlLords of the Desert by James Barr http://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Lords-of-the-Desert/James-Barr/9781471139796Khashoggi disappearance: Time for an independent investigation by Julien Barnes-Dacey https://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_khashoggi_disappearance_time_for_an_independent_investigationPicture credit: Mohammed bin Salman's Saudi Arabia: A Deeper Look by April Brady/Project on Middle East Democracy via Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/pomed/26087328517, CC-BY-2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/
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The disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi

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