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Deena Kastor & Martin Yelling

Marathon Talk has returned in 2022 as part of the Abbott World Marathon Majors family. Hosted by Martin Yelling and the great Deena Kastor, every two weeks we'll bring you news, views and some amazing guest interviews from across the world of marathons and running.

Marathon Talk

Ahead of the 2025 TCS New York City Marathon, Deena catches up with race director Ted Metellus to hear more about how they prepare for the final Major of the year.
 
We have an update from Cape Town after their race was cancelled on Sunday, and what that means for their bid to become an Abbott World Marathon Major.
 
Also, we hear the marathon story of a Team Abbott member, and finally, Dave is here with a round-up of everything happening in New York during race week.
 
In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
3:46 - Martin and Deena are joined by Abbott World Marathon Majors COO Danny Coyle for an update on the events surrounding last weekend's Sanlam Cape Town Marathon.
 
25:20 - Welcome to Marathon Talk, race director for the TCS New York City Marathon, Ted Metellus.
 
57:15 - Community Notes: We meet Treena Mitchell, from Team Abbott and hear about her run story.
 
1:04:51 - AbbottWMM Social Media Manager, David Macnamara is here to give us the lowdown on all the events that are taking place over the course of the next week in New York.
 ‍Links & references C‍ape Town Marathon Timeline of Events 
Tickets for our Six Star Finisher Medal Monday Event
 
 First Timers: A Night Of Storytelling In Celebration Of The New York City Marathon
 
Strava/Runna Race Hub, 1865 Broadway, New York, NY 10023
 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 
Website | Facebook | Instagram | TikTok
 
Marathon Talk
 
Facebook | Instagram | TikTok
 
Martin Yelling | Instagram
 
Deena Kastor | Instagram
 
Ted Metellus | Instagram

EP78: Welcome To New York! | Marathon Talk Meets Ted Metellus

Welcome to the first episode of Marathon Talk Extra, your regular post-ride guide to every Abbott World Marathon Major weekend, and much more.
 

 On this show, we'll be covering Sunday's Bank of America Chicago Marathon, where the biggest names in marathon running will come face to face as they prepare to see who will emerge as our series champion at the end of the year.

Marathon Talk Extra | Is Kiplimo Marathon Running’s New Star? : Bank of America Chicago Marathon Special

On this week's bumper episode of Marathon Talk, we look back on a punishing day in Berlin as Sabastion Sawe and Rosemary Wanjiru won the BMW BERLIN-MARATHON. We also have news of a PB time for Sted Sarandos, your new favourite celebrity marathon runner.
 
Our first guest on the show is Team GB athlete Phily Bowden, who is preparing for next week's Bank of America Chicago Marathon, and offered us real insight into her training plan and how she prepares for a Major event.
 
And to close the show, we are so pleased to be joined by Abbott Senior Vice President of Global Marketing and External Affairs Melissa Brotz to talk to us about Team Abbott, 10 years of the Abbott and World Marathon Majors partnership, and much more.
 
 
 
In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
5:32 - Martin and Deena talk about the BMW BERLIN-MARATHON.
 
10:22 - Sted Sarandos is the man everyone wanted to see in Berlin. But just who is this mysterious sub-3:00 marathoner?
 
12:37 - We preview the Bank of America Chicago Marathon
 
15:23 - We meet Phily Bowden and hear about her preparation for next week's Bank of America Chicago Marathon
 
39:50 - Melissa Brotz, Senior Vice President of Global Marketing and External Affairs at Abbott, joins us to talk all about a partnership that is now about to enter its 11th year.
 ‍Links & references‍ 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 
https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/‍
 
https://www.tiktok.com/@marathontalk
 
Martin Yelling
 
https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
Deena Kastor
 
https://www.instagram.com/deena8050/
 
Phily Bowden
 
https://www.instagram.com/philybowden/
 
https://www.youtube.com/@philybowden

EP77: Phily Heads To The Windy City | Marathon Talk Meets Phily Bowden

As we catch our breath after a phenomenal weekend of marathon running at the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo, Deena has all the news from the National Stadium.
 
Then, ahead of this weekend's BMW Berlin Marathon, Martin catches up with a Berlin-based running influencer, coach, and community builder who has become a familiar face in the city’s thriving fitness scene, Aaron McCammon joins us to tell us all about the running scene in Berlin, how to make the most of your time in Germany if you are there for the race and much more.
 ‍Links & references‍
 ‍ Abbott World Marathon Majors
 https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/ 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/‍
 
https://www.tiktok.com/@marathontalk
 
Martin Yelling
 https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
Deena Kastor
 https://www.instagram.com/deena8050/
 
Aaron McCammon
 
https://www.instagram.com/callme.air.ron/

EP76: The Closest Finish We've Ever Seen! | Tokyo World Championships Report

The TCS Sydney Marathon took place this past weekend, and we have all the news from a momentous day in marathon running as Sydney arrived as an Abbott World Marathon Major!
 
Joining Martin on this week's show, we have Abbott World Marathon Majors Chief Operating Officer Danny Coyle, who was on the ground, in the shadow of the Opera House, to give us his thoughts on both the race day, the city, and also the performances of Sifan Hassan, Eliud Kiphcoge, and the winner of the men's elite race, Hailemaryam Kiros.
 
We're also joined by Simon Bolton, who is now a Seven Star athlete, who will give us his participants perspective of the race and we're also very pleased to welcome Michelle Weltman MBE, head of disability at London Marathon Events, who also joins us from Sydney, to talk to us about wheelchair racing, her thoughts on Sydney, the current series championship and some wider commentary on where wheelchair racing can go in the future.
 
We've got a jam-packed show for you, and we hope you enjoy it.
 
‍In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
0:00 - Martin and Danny discuss the 2025 TCS Sydney Marathon.
 
15:48 - Simon Bolton joins us to give the runners' perspective of the race, fresh from collecting his Seventh Abbott World Marathon Majors star.
 
22:44 - Michelle Weltman MBE is our guest as we get an update on the current state of play in the wheelchair championship, along with much more insight about the sport as it looks to grow alongside the new Major races.
 
41:06 - A small preview of what we have lined up for our next show, where Deena will hopefully join us from Tokyo at the World Athletics Championships.
 ‍Links & references‍
 
 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/‍
 
https://www.tiktok.com/@marathontalk
 
Martin Yelling
 https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
Michelle Weltman
 https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-weltman-mbe-964911b0/

EP75: Sydney Shines On Its Majors Debut

Our first episode back after our summer break, and we have a TCS Sydney Marathon Special!
 
On this show, we’ll have a preview of the elite field for the race and hear from Deena as she prepares for her first run in Australia in 20 years. We have a quick check-in with race director Wayne Larden, as Sydney prepares to welcome the Majors, and we’re joined by UK based runner Simon Bolton who is heading to Sydney to collect his seventh AbbbottWMM finish. 
 
Our main guest is James Constantine, who is here to talk to us about all things running in Sydney, how the city and its runners are looking forward to the race, things to experience in the city, and for Deena, as she stays on a little longer in Australia, a few suggestions for things to do while she’s Down Under.
 
 ‍In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
 0:00 - We're back after our break with a TCS Sydney Marathon Special Preview
 
 10:20 - TCS Sydney Marathon Race Director Wayne Larden joins us to give a quick update on how Sydney is prepared for the big race on August 31st
 
 20:40 - As runners from around the world head to Sydney, we speak to local runner James Constantine to give us a background on running culture in the city, what the race means to the local community and he shares a few tips on the things to do in Sydney that visitors don't want to miss.
 
 37:21 - In our Community Notes section, we hear from Simon Bolton as one of more than 3,000 Six Star finishers who are heading to Sydney to collect his seventh Abbott World Marathon Majors star.
 
 41:35 - We have an update on our Global Run Club challenge as we head into the last few weeks of the competition.
 Episode highlights 
"When I think of the names and quality of the fields put together for this race, it's really going to be interesting to see how the hills become part of the racers' strategies; have they studied the course, have they figured out which hill do they make their move on? I'm fascinated to see how the course itself plays into those moves." - 08:19 - Deena Kastor
 
 “I'd be pretty confident right now that Eliud would be really enthusiastically telling the world how beautiful Sydney is, how friendly Australians are, what a great time he has had in Sydney, and what a great race and beautiful course it is." - 16:50 - Wayne Larden
 
 “The culture has certainly changed over the last few years, running has become this cool thing, and it's absolutely been exacerbated by social media, but also the communities and the run club culture has really developed over the last few years in Sydney. It's just a great place to be in Australia if you're a runner.” - 22:32 - James Constantine
 
 “I'm more excited than you can imagine! I'm really looking forward to it. Getting on a plane to head to the other side of the world, I can't wait!” - 38:10 - Simon Bolton

EP74: TCS Sydney Marathon Special Preview

Who’s the host with the most, the quiz whiz, the mastermind with the mic? There’s only one way to find out…
 
This week’s very special Marathon Talk pits Martin and Deena against each other, with a trivial roundup of the running season’s greatest times!
 
We also cover all the latest from Sydney’s elite field announcements, the packed ballot for the London Marathon, and Tokyo’s international ambitions.
 
In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
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0:00 - We kick off with tales of Deena’s gigging adventures and Martin’s negotiation with injury
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5:30 - The latest from the running world includes Sydney’s elite women’s field announcements, Faith Kipyegon’s Breaking4 attempt, and ballot news from London and Tokyo
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18:00 - The main event: Martin and Deena face off in a battle of brains across 4 rounds of quizzing - play along at home and see if you can beat our hosts with the most
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42:30 - Before we sign off for July, we look to our community for runners to join the Global Run Club challenge, and share your plans for getting the steps in this summer
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Marathon Talk is proudly powered by Abbott World Marathon Majors, who create, build and support opportunities for all to discover the power of the marathon community. Learn more at https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
 
 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 
https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/
 
 
 
Martin Yelling
 
https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
 
 
Deena Kastor
 
https://www.instagram.com/deena8050/

E73: Deena Kastor vs Martin Yelling: Marathon Talk’s Inaugural End of the Season Quiz

Nobody squeezed more life out of 24 years than Steve Prefontaine, one of running’s greatest icons.
 
 
 
Fresh from penning a biography of Prefontaine, Brendan O’Meara joins us to share the impact of his legacy, and what we all stand to learn from Steve’s unparalleled mindset.
 
 
 
Tune into Marathon Talk this week as we also get the inside track on Boston’s new qualifying stipulations, and the great Martin vs Deena showdown, the outcome of which is in YOUR hands…
 
 
 
In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
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0:00 - We kick off this week with a roundup of father’s day fox-spotting and Martin’s gradual mileage increase
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8:10 - Boston Marathon have made changes to their qualification criteria, making things an uphill struggle for downhill runners…
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16:15 - Martin & Deena debunk the ‘no pain, no gain’ approach to training, and laud the benefits of implementing real discipline in your running
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25:30 - Brendan O’Meara gives us a glimpse into the short-yet-stellar life of Steve Prefontaine, and how his presence changed running forever in his 24 years
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56:45 - Martin & Deena make their appeal to the community to join the battle raging on between Deena’s Dominators and Martin’s Mile Crushers on the Global Run Club app
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 Marathon Talk is proudly powered by Abbott World Marathon Majors, who create, build and support opportunities for all to discover the power of the marathon community. Learn more at https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 
https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/
 
Martin Yelling
 
https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
Deena Kastor
 
https://www.instagram.com/deena8050/
 
Brendan O’Meara
 
https://brendanomeara.com/
 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendan-o-meara-40295333/

E72: The Life of Steve Prefontaine with Biographer, Brendan O’Meara

There’s nobody on earth quite like Dean Karnazes, a man with more human-powered mileage than perhaps anyone else…
 
 
 
He’s proof of the extreme lengths to which you can push the human body, so if you’re looking at your next running challenge, his interview on Marathon Talk this week is pure gold.
 
 
 
Join us as we also share Deena’s tips for taking on an unknown marathon course, and unveil the three lucky winners of Jamie Ramsay’s book!
 
 
 
In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
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0:00 - We catch up with Martin’s tips for tackling an injury he’s currently nursing, and Deena looks ahead at her race in Sydney, sharing her advice for conquering a course you’ve never seen before
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16:10 - Dean Karnazes, THE quintessential ultramarathon man, talks about his running career, staying in shape as you get older, the power of Ultramarathon running, and much more
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48:00 - In the community notes this week we share the three lucky winners of Jamie’s new book, and set the stage for an EPIC Martin vs Deena showdown, in which you determine the victor…
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 Marathon Talk is proudly powered by Abbott World Marathon Majors, who create, build and support opportunities for all to discover the power of the marathon community. Learn more at https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 
https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/
 
Martin Yelling
 
https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
Deena Kastor
 
https://www.instagram.com/deena8050/
 
Dean Karnazes
 
http://ultramarathonman.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/ultramarathon/

E71: What Drives the Quintessential Endurance Athlete: Marathon Talk Meets Dean Karnazes

It’s 17,000 kilometres from Vancouver to Buenos Aires - anyone fancy running it…?
 
 
 
Jamie Ramsay covered the two continents in 367 gruelling days, and joins us on Marathon Talk this week to detail his masterclass in resilience, pushing boundaries, and what he learned about himself!
 
 
 
Tune in this week as we also pore through the finalised stats from THAT brutally blistering London Marathon, and talk about how you can best prepare for the heat on your next summer run… 
 
 
 
In this episode of Marathon Talk:
 
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0:00 - Martin and Deena catch up on Deena’s trip to the Museum of Tolerance, parse through London Marathon’s finalised statistics, and dive into the ins and outs of training for heat
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20:35 - Jamie Ramsay talks us through his 17,000km, 367 day trek across The Americas
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51:00 - Our listeners talk us through their ambitious training plans for the summer head
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 Marathon Talk is proudly powered by Abbott World Marathon Majors, who create, build and support opportunities for all to discover the power of the marathon community. Learn more at https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
Abbott World Marathon Majors
 
https://www.worldmarathonmajors.com/
 
https://www.instagram.com/wmmajors/
 
Martin Yelling
 
https://www.instagram.com/martinyelling/
 
Deena Kastor
 
https://www.instagram.com/deena8050/
 
Jamie Ramsay
 
https://www.jamieramsay.net/

E70: 1 Man. 2 Continents. 17,000km… Behind Jamie Ramsay’s Adventure Across The Americas

Sir Mo runs a new European marathon record and wins the 2018 Chicago Marathon! Martin's joined by Eliud Kipchoge’s team photographer, Dan Vernon to talk about ‘that world record’ in Berlin. Dan was with Eliud in the training build up and on race day. Tony is here with his trials, you rate your runs, wear your kit around the world and stand on the podium.

Episode 457 - Dan Vernon

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