Not everyone was radicalized as a Swiftie by Taylor’s groundbreaking 2012 album Red, but a young Bowen Yang — stressed, depressed and sipping pumpkin spice lattes while walking fast through the traffic lights of Midtown Manhattan — was forever altered. He joins Fran and Rose to answer key questions about the famously emotionally maximalist album like: Why is it called Red? Was it the first album where Taylor had bangs? How do you survive being doxxed by radical Swiftites?

Plus, Fran and Rose opine their favorite lyrics (and merch) from the release of Red (Taylor’s Version), debate celebrity-assisted surprise proposals, and explain the cataclysmic events clinching Salt Lake City’s place in the canon of most memorable Real Housewives moments.

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