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Goalhanger

The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. 

From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.

The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.

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Leading

What is the difference between class distinctions in Scotland and the rest of the UK? How did Nicola Sturgeon's childhood in Scotland inform her politics? What was Margaret Thatcher's influence on Nicola's career?

Rory and Alastair are joined by former Leader of the SNP and First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, to answer all these questions and more. 

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Social Producer: Harry Balden

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Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell

Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

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149. Nicola Sturgeon: On Margaret Thatcher, Alex Salmond, and the Push for Independence (Part 1)

How does Guyana balance its unprecedented economic growth, largely due to oil discoveries, with environmental sustainability? How does Guyana perceive and address the historical scar left by slavery? What has happened to West Indies cricket, and how does the future look?

Alastair is joined by President of Guyana, Ifraan Ali, to answer all these questions and more.

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Social Producer: Harry Balden

Video Editor: Josh Smith

Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

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148. The President of Guyana: The Fastest Growing Economy in the World (Irfaan Ali)

What was it like to be handed the reins to the economy following the Liz Truss mini-budget collapse? How did Jeremy Hunt feel fighting an election that he knew the Conservatives would lose? How would Thatcher have dealt with Trump? 

Alastair and Rory are joined by former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt to answer all this and more. 

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Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

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147. I Thought It Was a Prank - Then I Was Chancellor: Jeremy Hunt (Part 2)

How did Jeremy Hunt lose the Conservative leadership race to Boris Johnson? What does the longest serving Health Minister think will fix the NHS? What does Jeremy Hunt really think of Kemi Badenoch’s leadership? 

Alastair and Rory are joined by former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt to answer all this and more. 

Visit HP.com/politics to find out more.

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Social Producer: Celine Charles 

Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

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146. The Rise and Fall of The Conservative Party: Jeremy Hunt (Part 1)

How did Gary become a multimillionaire by the age of 25? How big a difference can a wealth tax make on regular people's lives? Have centrist politics failed on the economy?

Rory and Alastair are joined by author of The Trading Game, Gary Stevenson, to answer all these questions and more.

Visit HP.com/politics to find out more.

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Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes.

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Social Producer: Celine Charles 

Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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145. Gary Stevenson: Masculinity, Money, and the Myth of Meritocracy (Part 2)

How did Gary Stevenson go from being expelled for drug dealing, to one of the most successful traders in London? How does class and privilege play into the world of finance in the UK? What could men do differently to deal with their mental health at work?

Rory and Alastair are joined by author of The Trading Game, Gary Stevenson, to discuss all this and more.

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Social Producer: Harry Balden

Video Editor: Josh Smith

Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

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144. Gary Stevenson: From Teenage Drug Dealer to Millionaire Trader (Part 1)

How did Congressman Moulton keep fighting the Iraq war when he thought it was a mistake? Is there anyone who can stop Trump, or is he an absolute monarch? Have substandard politicians used military service as a get-out-of-jail-free card?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Congressman Seth Moulton to discuss all this and more.

Visit HP.com/politics to find out more.

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Social Producer: Celine Charles 

Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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143. Iraq, Trump, and America’s Slide to Authoritarianism (Congressman Seth Moulton)

Why are the British paying more for energy than anywhere else in Europe? How does society navigate the anxiety of having children during the climate crisis? What does the UK government need to do in order to speed up our transition to green energy?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the Chief Executive of the Climate Change Committee and former CEO of Energy UK, Emma Pinchbeck, to answer all these questions and more.

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Social Producer: Harry Balden

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Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

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142. The Truth About Net Zero's Credibility (Emma Pinchbeck)

What role does Cyprus play in the Middle East conflicts? How can Europe and the United Kingdom strengthen their relations during this tumultuous time? How can governments fight corruption? 

Rory and Alastair are joined by Nikos Christodoulides, the President of Cyprus, to discuss all this and more.

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Social Producer: Harry Balden

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141. The President of Cyprus: Iran, Israel, and the Cyprus Issue (Nikos Christodoulides)

Why has Macron become so unpopular? Where is the discussion of international law when it comes to the conflict between Israel and Iran? Why can’t the French and the English coordinate to stop the small boats crisis? 

Alastair and Rory are joined by former French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal to discuss all this and more. 

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Social Producer: Celine Charles 

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Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

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140. The Next President of France? Gabriel Attal on Macron, Le Pen, and Israel-Iran

What was the worst political mistake in modern history? How do religious Republicans bring themselves to support Trump? Was it wrong to describe the fall of the Soviet Union as ‘The End of History’?

On today’s episode of Leading, Alastair and Rory sit down with political scientist and writer Francis Fukuyama to answer all these questions, discuss why he coined the phrase ‘The End of History’, and argue whether authoritarian regimes are ‘destined’ to fail.

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26: Francis Fukuyama: Trump, Modi, and ‘The End of History’

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