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Goalhanger

The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart interview politicians, leaders, intellectuals, and more. 

From inside and outside of politics, guests join Rory and Alastair to discuss life, leadership, and the philosophy that’s led them to success in their chosen field. Their conversations cover key political events, global affairs, and the big ideas shaping the world today, offering listeners in-depth perspectives from those at the heart of change.

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Leading

What lessons on leadership does Angela Merkel have after 16 years served as Chancellor of Germany? Does she have any regrets from her tenure? What was it like being in East Germany when the Berlin wall fell? And what should Europe do to ensure the future security of Ukraine?

Rory and Alastair are joined by ex-Chancellor of Germany, Angela Merkel, to discuss all this and more.

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Translator: Dorothee Kaltenbach
Assistant Producer: India Dunkley
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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111. Angela Merkel: Putin, Trump, and Europe's future

Does Bill Clinton feel that the current Israel-Hamas war could have been avoided if former Palestinian President Yasser Arafat had accepted the peace deal in 2001? Does he regret allowing China to join the World Trade Organisation? Was Hillary Clinton unfairly attacked during her presidential campaign? And what is Putin going to do next?

Rory and Alastair are joined by 42nd US President, Bill Clinton, to discuss all this and more.

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Assistant Producer + Editor: Becki Hills
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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112. Bill Clinton: Putin, Palestine, and Trump

What does Musk’s de-facto role as ‘co president’ say about the impact of Big Tech on the disintegration of the international order? How can we approach solving some of the world's biggest conflicts? Is there room for hope in an increasingly tense and fragmented world?

Rory and Alastair are joined by American political scientist, Ian Bremmer, to answer all these questions and more.

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Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
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113. How likely is World War 3? (Ian Bremmer)

How did Morgan’s upbringing as the daughter of a priest set her off on a path to become Welsh First Minister? What does a former member of the European Parliament think happened with Brexit? How has the devolved parliament tackled the NHS? 

Rory and Alastair are joined by the first minister of Wales, Eluned Morgan, to discuss all this and more.

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Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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114. The future of Wales (Eluned Morgan)

Why do some soldiers make bad politicians? What's the West doing wrong in terms of its policy towards the Ukraine War? How can Keir Starmer turn around the public perception of his Labour government?

On today's episode of Leading Rory and Alastair are joined by Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence from 2019 to 2023. Tune in to hear the former Tory minister answers all these questions and more.

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Video Editor: Kieron Leslie
Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
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115. Ben Wallace: Britain's mistake in Ukraine, Trump vs. NATO, and visiting Iran with Jeremy Corbyn

How can AI help solve global problems such as poverty, hunger, and disease? Is there a hidden dark side to this new technology? What is in store for the future of artificial intelligence?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Senior Vice President of Google, James Manyika, to answer all these questions and more. 

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Video Editor: Kieron Leslie

Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell

Social Producer: Jess Kidson

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport

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116. Is AI the answer to human suffering? (James Manyika)

As the US retreats from the international stage, who is going to fill the gap? What will the ‘peace processes of the future’ look like? Who has more power, the tech giants or political leaders?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator at the UN, Tom Fletcher, to answer all these questions and more.

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Video Editor: Kieron Leslie

Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell

Social Producer: Jess Kidson

Producer: Nicole Maslen

Senior Producer: Dom Johnson

Head of Content: Tom Whiter

Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport

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117. Is the UN fit for purpose? (Tom Fletcher)

What’s the relationship between intelligence agencies and the politicians they serve? How does Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu react in a crisis? How confident should we be that the ceasefire will last?

Alastair and Rory are joined by former Head of Mossad Intelligence and National Security Advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu, Uzi Arad, to discuss all this and more.

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Video Editor: Josh Smith
Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
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118. Ex-Head of Mossad: Hamas, Ceasefire, and Netanyahu (Uzi Arad)

How did Barack Obama become President? What was Hillary Clinton's huge mistake in 2016? How corrupt really is American politics today?

Pod Save America host and former Barack Obama speechwriter, Tommy Veitor, joins Rory and Alastair to answer all these questions and more.

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Assistant Producers: Alice Horrell
Video Editor: Josh Smith
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producers: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport
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119. Tommy Vietor: How Democrats can fight Trump

How did Ahmed al-Sharaa go from an imprisoned al-Qaeda fighter to the leader of Syria? What is the psychological impact of living a secret life for over twenty years? What is the future of Syria?

Ahmed al-Sharaa joins Rory and Alastair to discuss all this and more.

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Translators - Ibrahim Kadouni & Gerard Russell
Hani Tayfour - Director (RealStudio Production)
Siham Alobede Technical supervisor (RealStudio Production)
Ahmad Jalal Alkilani - Cameraman (RealStudio Production)
Hasan Ajlany - DOP
Hassan Jabri - Sound Engineer
Mohamad Hamami - Sound Technician Assistant
Bilal Altabakh - Lighting Technician
Chahine Jebara - Lighting Technician
Hadi Alali - Local Producer
Video editor: Josh Smith
Assistant producer: Alice Horrell
Producers: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport
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120. The New President of Syria: Trump, Palestine, and having a $10 million bounty on your head (Ahmed al-Sharaa)

What is the logic behind Trump’s “chaotic” political strategy? Are Europe and America heading for a divorce? What did it feel like to get ousted as the Speaker of the House on a global stage? 

Rory and Alastair are joined by former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy to discuss all this and more. 

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139. Speaker Kevin McCarthy: In Defence of Donald J. Trump

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