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Goalhanger

Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell, hosts of Britain's biggest podcast (The Rest Is Politics), have joined forces once again for their new interview podcast, ‘Leading’.

Every Monday, Rory and Alastair interrogate, converse with, and interview some of the world's biggest names - from both inside and outside of politics - about life, leadership, or leading the way in their chosen field.

Whether they're sports stars, thought-leaders, presidents or internationally-recognised religious figures, Alastair and Rory lift the lid on the motivation, philosophy and secrets behind their career.

Tune in to 'Leading' now to hear essential conversation from some of the world's most enthralling individuals. 

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Leading

What lessons on leadership does Angela Merkel have after 16 years served as Chancellor of Germany? Does she have any regrets from her tenure? What was it like being in East Germany when the Berlin wall fell? And what should Europe do to ensure the future security of Ukraine?

Rory and Alastair are joined by ex-Chancellor of Germany, Angela Merkel, to discuss all this and more.

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Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.

Instagram:
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Twitter:
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Email:
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Translator: Dorothee Kaltenbach
Assistant Producer: India Dunkley
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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111. Angela Merkel: Putin, Trump, and Europe's future

Does Bill Clinton feel that the current Israel-Hamas war could have been avoided if former Palestinian President Yasser Arafat had accepted the peace deal in 2001? Does he regret allowing China to join the World Trade Organisation? Was Hillary Clinton unfairly attacked during her presidential campaign? And what is Putin going to do next?

Rory and Alastair are joined by 42nd US President, Bill Clinton, to discuss all this and more.

TRIP Plus:
Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes.
Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.

Instagram:
@restispolitics
Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics
Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

Assistant Producer + Editor: Becki Hills
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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112. Bill Clinton: Putin, Palestine, and Trump

What does Musk’s de-facto role as ‘co president’ say about the impact of Big Tech on the disintegration of the international order? How can we approach solving some of the world's biggest conflicts? Is there room for hope in an increasingly tense and fragmented world?

Rory and Alastair are joined by American political scientist, Ian Bremmer, to answer all these questions and more.

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Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes.
Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.

Instagram:
@restispolitics
Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics
Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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113. How likely is World War 3? (Ian Bremmer)

How did Morgan’s upbringing as the daughter of a priest set her off on a path to become Welsh First Minister? What does a former member of the European Parliament think happened with Brexit? How has the devolved parliament tackled the NHS? 

Rory and Alastair are joined by the first minister of Wales, Eluned Morgan, to discuss all this and more.

TRIP Plus:
Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes.
Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.

Instagram:
@restispolitics
Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics
Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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114. The future of Wales (Eluned Morgan)

Why do some soldiers make bad politicians? What's the West doing wrong in terms of its policy towards the Ukraine War? How can Keir Starmer turn around the public perception of his Labour government?

On today's episode of Leading Rory and Alastair are joined by Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence from 2019 to 2023. Tune in to hear the former Tory minister answers all these questions and more.

TRIP Plus:
Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes.
Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.

Instagram:
@restispolitics
Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics
Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

Video Editor: Kieron Leslie
Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
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115. Ben Wallace: Britain's mistake in Ukraine, Trump vs. NATO, and visiting Iran with Jeremy Corbyn

Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell, hosts of Britain's biggest podcast (The Rest Is Politics), have joined forces once again for their new interview podcast, ‘Leading’.
Every Monday, Rory and Alastair interrogate, converse with, and interview some of the world's biggest names - from both inside and outside of politics - about life, leadership, or leading the way in their chosen field.
Whether they're sports stars, thought-leaders, presidents or internationally-recognised religious figures, Alastair and Rory lift the lid on the motivation, philosophy and secrets behind their career.
Tune in to 'Leading' now to hear essential conversation from some of the world's most enthralling individuals. 
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In the first ever episode of ‘Leading’, Alastair and Rory are joined by former Deputy Prime Minister, Michael Heseltine. One of the biggest names in the last half-century of British politics, Lord Heseltine discusses everything from his crucial role in the rise and fall of Margaret Thatcher to his current position in the House of Lords. 

Tune in to hear Michael talk about how politics has changed, why he lost the Conservative whip, Europe, Brexit, and the Miners’ Strike.

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Instagram:
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Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics

Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

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1: Michael Heseltine: From Thatcher to Sunak

Alexander Litvinenko: the man who solved his own murder after being poisoned by the Russian State in London.

Marina, his widow, battled for justice successfully in both a UK public enquiry and a case at the European Court of Human Rights.

As a leading critic of Vladimir Putin's regime, 'mafia state' and invasion of Ukraine - Marina sat down with Alastair to discuss Alexander's murder, her fight for justice, being in Ukraine when Russia invaded last February, and how the Kremlin tried to conscript her son for the war in Ukraine.

TRIP Plus:
Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, enjoy ad-free listening, receive a weekly TRIP newsletter, join the TRIP Plus Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up.

Instagram:
@restispolitics

Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics

Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

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2: Marina Litvinenko: Fighting Putin's poison

Is the NHS beyond saving? Could a Labour government fix it? How should Rishi Sunak deal with strikes?

This week on Leading, Alastair and Rory are joined by former Secretary of State for Health, Alan Milburn. Alan is credited for delivering modernisation to the NHS in the New Labour years, introducing foundation trusts, and is Rory’s hero for his work on reform.

Tune in to hear his thoughts on the struggles of being an MP, the biggest challenges facing the NHS, and Labour’s lack of clarity in opposition.

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Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, enjoy ad-free listening, receive a weekly TRIP newsletter, join the TRIP Plus Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up.

Instagram:
@restispolitics

Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics

Email:
restispolitics@gmail.com

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3: Alan Milburn: Can the NHS be saved?

Who is the EU's man behind Brexit? How did he combat Britain's negotiating tactics? What is life like at the top of European politics?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Michel Barnier, the EU's chief Brexit negotiator, three years on from Britain's exit from the European Union.

Instagram:
@restispolitics

Twitter:
@RestIsPolitics

TRIP Plus:
Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive a weekly newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up.

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www.theneweuropean.co.uk/leading

Email:
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Producers: Dom Johnson + Nicole Maslen

Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport

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4: Michel Barnier: The Truth Behind Brexit

How does militant socialism compare to Corbynism? How did Labour’s ‘remain’ campaign go so wrong? And what should Labour be doing about immigration? 

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by long-serving Labour minister, Alan Johnson, to discuss all this and more

Instagram: @restispolitics 
Twitter: @RestIsPolitics 
Email: restispolitics@gmail.com 

Assistant Producer: India Dunkley 
Video Editor: Teo Ayodeji-Ansell 
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Producer: Nicole Maslen and Fiona Douglas 
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson 
Head of Content: Tom Whiter 
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport 
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102. Alan Johnson: From Blair to Starmer - What can Labour learn? (Part 2)

102. Alan Johnson: From Blair to Starmer - What can Labour learn? (Part 2)

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