Rudy Giuliani Keeps Making Things Worse for Trump: A Closer Look | Rukmini Callimachi | Sarah Kendzior

Seth takes a closer look at the aftermath of Rudy Giuliani saying the president lied about paying hush money to Stormy Daniels, and how Trump's legal team still doesn't have their story straight.

Then, The New York Times' Rukmini Callimachi talks about going through ISIS' trash, chatting with its members in chat rooms and being the target of a threat from ISIS itself. She also takes a few more questions backstage with Late Night's Henry Melcher.

After that, writer Sarah Kendzior talks about studying dictators for her PhD, why she loves complaining and the systemic problems that will still exist once Trump is out of office. Then she speaks with Henry backstage just for this podcast.

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