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The Ringer

Emmy Award—winning producer, actor, and comedian Larry Wilmore is back on the air, hosting a podcast where he weighs in on the issues of the week and interviews guests in the worlds of politics, entertainment, culture, sports, and beyond.

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

Larry is joined by technology journalist Emily Chang to talk about her Bloomberg Originals limited series ‘Posthuman’, and her podcast ‘The Circuit’, which features interviews with influential figures in the tech industry. They begin their conversation by discussing the inspiration for ‘Posthuman’, which delves into humanity’s connection to artificial intelligence, and shine light on some of AI's latest innovations. Larry and Emily then touch on many hot-button topics regarding AI, including its uses for medicine, warfare, and mental health (15:57). They end the pod by sharing their predictions, hopes, and fears about the future of AI (37:33).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Emily Chang

Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante
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Emily Chang on ‘Posthuman’ and ‘The Circuit’

Larry is joined by Emmy Award-winning writer and producer Alan Zweibel to discuss his experiences working on ‘Saturday Night Live’ during its first few years on the air. Alan begins the conversation by sharing his feelings about the 50th anniversary of ‘SNL’ and detailing the anatomy of a good joke. Larry and Alan then talk about Lorne Michaels’s original concepts for the show and detail the inspiration for some of Zweibel’s favorite sketches (15:34). Next, they examine some of the iconic performers and hosts who made those first shows so special, including Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, and Andy Kaufman (24:36). After the break, they talk about the lasting influence of ‘SNL’s early commercial parodies and pay tribute to the great Gilda Radner (38:11). Alan ends the show by remembering some of the lessons he learned as one of the original writers at ‘SNL’ and some of the projects he has lined up for the future (49:17).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Alan Zweibel

Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante
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Alan Zweibel on the Early Days of ‘Saturday Night Live’

Larry weighs in on the L.A. fires. He’s then joined by writer and Academy Award-winning filmmaker RaMell Ross to discuss his newest movie ‘Nickel Boys ’(8:33). They begin their conversation by talking about how the project came together, RaMell's experimental inspirations, and the screenwriting process with co-writer Joslyn Barnes. Next, they dive into RaMell’s personal connection with the Colson Whitehead novel that provides the movie's base and break down the "epic banal" philosophy behind the images in his storytelling (24:10). After the break, Larry and RaMell shine a light on the exquisite casting for ‘Nickel Boys’ and discuss what Ross took away personally from making the film (36:14). RaMell ends the pod by discussing why he loves teaching so much and his thoughts on the state of the movie industry (55L43).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: RaMell Ross

Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton
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RaMell Ross on ‘Nickel Boys’

Larry is joined by CNN Anchor and Chief Legal Analyst Laura Coates, and they begin their conversation by talking about Laura’s stylistic approach to the interviews she conducts on her show ‘Laura Coates Live’. They then break down the defamation case between ABC News and Donald Trump and discuss the reasons why there is currently a general mistrust in the mainstream media (11:30). This leads to a conversation about how to avoid bias in journalism and the role social media plays in people’s perception of the news (18:08). After the break, Larry and Laura look ahead to Trump’s upcoming inauguration and examine the legalities behind some of the executive orders he wants to enact on his first day in office (26:37). They end the pod by examining the definitions between the right and left political factions, shining a light on how the rest of the world may be preparing for the new presidential administration, and speculating on how long the Trump/Musk love affair will last (44:30).

﻿Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Laura Coates

Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante
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Laura Coates on ‘Laura Coates Live’

Larry is joined by journalist and MSNBC political analyst Juanita Tolliver to discuss her new book, ‘A More Perfect Party: The Night Shirley Chisholm and Diahann Carroll Reshaped Politics’. They begin their conversation by talking about what inspired Tolliver to write about the legendary political fundraiser and shining a light on the many influential luminaries that were in attendance, including Huey Newton, Flip Wilson, and Berry Gordy. After the break, Larry and Juanita talk about the converging ideologies that aligned themselves with Chisholm’s groundbreaking campaign and draw comparisons between her and Kamala Harris’s recent bid for the presidency (30:19). Juanita ends the pod by contemplating on who could fill Shirley Chisholm’s revolutionary shoes in today’s politics, and sharing some of the favorite things she learned while researching the book (46:03).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Juanita Tolliver

Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton
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Juanita Tolliver on ‘A More Perfect Party: The Night Shirley Chisholm and Diahann Carroll Reshaped Politics’

Larry is joined by actor and comedian Roy Wood Jr. and they begin their conversation by acknowledging Black History Month. Roy then breaks down his new CNN show ‘Have I Got News for You’ and opines on whether or not comedic "bubbles" will last under the new Trump administration (5:41). They then pivot to his recently released stand-up special on Hulu, ‘Lonely Flowers’, and examine the different ways some of their favorite comedians navigate performing darker or more emotional comedic material (20:51). Roy ends the pod sharing his love for Alabama and shining a light on the importance of community (52:37).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Roy Wood Jr.

Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante
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Roy Wood Jr. on ‘Lonely Flowers’ and ‘Have I Got News for You’

Larry is joined by writer and cultural critic Thomas Chatterton Williams to discuss his latest essay for The Atlantic, "How the Woke Right Replaced the Woke Left". They begin by shining a light on the political left’s weak hold on the cultural landscape, and breaking down the definition, history, and downfall of "woke" ideology. Next, they take a look at the rise of right-wing counterculture and its strength within the government and popular media (13:13). After the break, Larry and Thomas examine the growing acceptance of racist rhetoric both domestically and abroad before talking about the serious regime changes they are seeing within the current Donald Trump administration (36:09). They end the pod by debating the political allure of Trump and the next moves for the Democratic Party (48:37).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Thomas Chatterton Williams

Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante
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Thomas Chatterton Williams on "How the Woke Right Replaced the Woke Left"

Larry is joined by filmmakers George and Teddy Kunhardt to discuss their newest documentary ‘Becoming Katharine Graham’, currently streaming on Amazon Prime Video. They begin their conversation by talking about what inspired them to start the project and shining a light on the male-dominated world Katharine lived in when she was running the Washington Post. They then debate the accuracy of famous cinematic portrayals of Graham and take a hard look at her relationship to the feminist movement in the late '60s and early '70s (28:49). After the break, George, Teddy, and Larry break down how Graham’s famous family is intrinsic to her legacy and share the biggest lessons they learned from making the film (37:57). They end the pod by examining the state of print media in society today and the factors that motivate the Kunhardts to create their patented brand of documentaries (45:54).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guests: George Kunhardt and Teddy Kunhardt

Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton
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George & Teddy Kunhardt on ‘Becoming Katharine Graham’

Larry is joined by actress Krys Marshall to talk about the Season 2 release of her Hulu show ‘Paradise’. They begin their conversation by examining Marshall’s upbringing and the many factors that inspired her to become an actor. This leads to a conversation about the mental, interpersonal, and familial hurdles Krys overcame to reach her personal goals within the industry (9:03). Next, Krys details the synopsis of ‘Paradise’ and describes how the cast, crew, and writers created an ideal and enriching acting environment (22:47). After the break, they shine a light on the importance of representation in modern television and how Marshall’s Apple TV show ‘For All Mankind’ has provided a safe space for Black nerds (39:28). Larry and Krys end the pod by discussing the projects they hope to work on in the future and sharing stories of manifesting their own success (54:54).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Krys Marshall

Producers: Chris Sutton and Brandy LaPlante
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Krys Marshall on ‘Paradise’

Larry is joined by Axios Senior Political Reporter Alex Isenstadt to talk about his new book ‘Revenge: The Inside Story of Trump’s Return to Power’. They begin their conversation by discussing Alex’s approach to writing the book and the environment surrounding Trump when he decided to run for president a second time. They then analyze the personality differences between Trump’s first and second administration, particularly the bevy of influential allies currently in his cabinet, like White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles (10:25). This leads to an examination of Trump as an indomitable political athlete, whose mystique has kept a solid base of followers even through his most politically devastating moments (15:40). After the break, Larry and Alex shine a light on Trump’s mercurial relationship with Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, and Tucker Carlson, while highlighting the behind-the-scenes machinations that led to JD Vance’s ascendancy to vice president (28:13). Finally, Larry and Alex analyze the viability of Elon Musk’s partnership with Team Trump and talk about the future of both the Democratic and Republican Parties (45:36).

Host: Larry Wilmore

Guest: Alex Isenstadt

Producers: Brandy LaPlante and Chris Sutton
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Alex Isenstadt on ‘Revenge: The Inside Story of Trump's Return to Power’

Larry Wilmore kicks off this week’s show with a few responses from Twitter and his thoughts on Michael Vick’s recent advice for Colin Kaepernick and the ongoing attempts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (1:00). Later Larry chats with Malcolm Gladwell about the concept of pioneers and tokens within the world of sports and debates Malcolm’s stances on Satire and Golf (14:00).

 
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Malcolm Gladwell on Pioneers, Tokens, and ‘The Satire Paradox’ (Ep. 9)

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