Standing in for James O'Brien, Iain Dale challenges David Gauke, the Chair of the Ministry of Justice Independent Sentencing Review, over his comments that inmates should be put in a low-security jails to ease the prison crisis. Also, he asks whether you will partake in dry January as one-third of male adults will go sober next month. In the final hour, Iain speaks to former Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party and MP for Stoke-on-Trent North Jonathan Gullis about what the defeated tories are doing for work as he asks listeners how hard it is to change jobs. All of that and more on this episode of the Iain Dale whole show podcast.