Mal and Jo are joined by ‘Andor’ showrunner Tony Gilroy! They dive into everything from the world-building and ideology of ‘Andor’ to the fate of the Maya Pei Brigade, what’s in Syril’s box, and much more!

(00:00) Intro(05:08) Speeches and Quotes in ‘Andor’(07:16) World-Building in ‘Andor’(10:24) The Sense of Place and Ideology in ‘Andor’(15:30) Balance of Characters(21:15) Power Dynamics and How They Shift(23:32) If You Made ‘Rogue One’ After ‘Andor,’ How Would it Be Different?(25:41) Jyn and Cassian’s Relationship(26:52) Figuring Out Character Retributions(29:42) Luthen and Saw(34:35) Staying in His Five-Year Period(36:40) Taking the Ideas of ‘Andor’ and Moving Beyond It(43:39) Which Characters Will You Miss Writing For?(46:11) Cinta Kaz and Tay Kolma’s Demise(48:00) B2EMO and a Farewell Scene with Cassian(51:57) Budget Restrictions Where They Had to Get Creative(56:56) Lessons to Take from ‘Andor’(01:00:35) Syril’s Private Box and Enza(01:03:04) Did Anyone from the Maya Pei Brigade Survive?

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonGuest: Tony GilroyProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices