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The Ringer

Welcome to ‘House of R,’ where Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson explore your favorite fictional universes with their signature Deep Dives into everything from ‘Game of Thrones’ to ‘Star Wars,’ ‘The Lord of the Rings’ to Marvel, and beyond. Whether they’re parsing mythology, story themes, and character arcs or tracing influences across decades of fantasy and sci-fi stories, Jo and Mal will be here weekly with Deep Dives into new nerd culture releases, nostalgic revisitations of their favorite tales in fandom, Tropes Course examinations, Hall of Fame inductions, Hype Meters, drafts, mailbags, watch lists, top moments countdowns, recommendations, and more.

House of R

Mal is joined by many of your favorite Ringer hosts to talk about what stocks they’re buying, selling, or holding in the world of fandom. From the MCU and DCU to video game adaptations and ‘KPop Demon Hunters,’ they talk about it all!

(00:00) Intro(01:57) Sean: Video game adaptations(15:57) Van: The MCU(01:00:01) Charles: Tom Holland(01:14:16) Daniel: The DCU(01:22:08) Ben: Warner Bros. Pictures(01:32:29) Meg: ‘Brimstone’(01:41:57) Jomi: ‘The Mandalorian and Grogu’(01:52:27) Steve: ‘Battle Beast’(02:00:41) Kate: Cute animal merch(02:10:28) Jodi: Survival stories(02:23:05) Andy: Whimsy

Host: Mallory RubinGuests: Sean Fennessey, Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Daniel Chin, Ben Lindbergh, Meg Schuster, Jomi Adeniran, Steve Ahlman, Kate Halliwell, Jodi Walker, and Andy Greenwald

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterAdditional Production Support: Arjuna RamgopowellSocial: Jomi Adeniran
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2025 Stock Watch: DCU, MCU, and More Buys, Sells, and Holds

Mal is joined by Rob Mahoney to dive deep into the first two episodes of ‘Alien: Earth’! They talk about everything from the Xenomorph to the tech overlords to some unexpected ‘Peter Pan’ references. Later, you can listen to an interview with Noah Hawley and Alex Lawther that Mal and Jo did at Comic-Con!

(00:00) Intro(14:23) Opening snapshot(30:42) The Maginot(01:02:02) Tech overlords(01:33:29) The Lost Boys(01:47:35) Hermit and Wendy(02:13:09) Odds and ends(02:17:33) Noah Hawley and Alex Lawther

Hosts: Mallory Rubin, Rob Mahoney, and Joanna RobinsonGuests: Noah Hawley and Alex LawtherProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Alien: Earth’ Episodes 1-2 Deep Dive, Plus Noah Hawley and Alex Lawther!

Mal and Jo travel across the multiverse to Earth-828 to break down the latest entry in the MCU, ‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’! They dive deep into each character, discuss the visuals and the story, and break down what it all means going forward.

(00:00) Intro(08:18) Opening Snapshot(18:05) Box Office(23:58) State of the MCU(28:21) How We Got Here(48:49) Reed Richards(01:22:02) Sue Storm(01:31:43) Ben Grimm(01:39:06) Johnny Storm(01:41:15) Silver Surfer(01:49:57) Galactus(01:53:24) Franklin Richards(01:55:21) Stinger

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and Jonathan FriasSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Deep Dive

Mal and Jo are coming to you from San Diego Comic-Con to give you their favorite moments from the convention! From the ‘Alien Earth’ panel that Jo hosted to taking pictures with cosplayers, they talk about it all!

(00:00) Intro(03:02) Jo’s panel reactions(05:06) Meeting the listeners(09:00) ‘Peacemaker’ panel(11:58) Mal’s panel reactions(16:25) ‘Percy Jackson’ panel(20:02) Hanging with the Ringer-Verse crew(22:54) ‘Interview with the Vampire’ panel(29:06) ‘Project Hail Mary’ panel(33:37) ‘Alien: Earth’ panel

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducer: Carlos ChiribogaSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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Our Top 5 Moments from San Diego Comic-Con 2025

Hot Nolan Summer continues! Mal and Jo are back to revisit Christopher Nolan’s 2010 movie, ‘Inception.’ They discuss how the movie holds up 15 years after its release, and give out some superlatives. They break down everything from the most baffling accent to the sickest set piece, and more!

(00:00) Intro

(10:38) Opening Snapshot

(18:04) Hot Nolan Summer: 'Inception'

(01:12:54) Funniest Moment

(01:17:36) Sickest Set Piece

(01:22:51) Who Is the REAL Villain of This Movie?

(01:30:47) Most Exquisitely Gorgeous Shot

(01:37:58) The Scene You Think About the Most

(01:48:34) Where Would You Put the One F-bomb?

(01:50:28) Most Baffling Accent

(01:54:50) Best Use of a Nolan-verse Regular

(01:59:22) Best Stunt(02:04:54) Stealth MVP

(02:09:32) Best Dead Wife Moment

(02:11:31) Clearest “Great Man” Moment

(02:14:16) Regrettable Miscasting

(02:17:32) Most Satisfying Twist

(02:22:54) The Horniest Moment of This Film

(02:25:28) The Line that Hits the Hardest

(02:27:57) Most Devastating Moment

(02:31:28) Most Unforgettable Zimmerism

(02:32:54) Never Returned to the Nolan-verse But Should Have

(02:34:28) The Most Nolan Thing About This Movie

(02:35:25) What About ‘The Odyssey’ Are You Most Hyped For?

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and John Richter

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Inception' Turns 15 | Hot Nolan Summer

We’ve called in the Justice Gang! Mal is joined by Van Lathan and Sean Fennessey to dive deep into James Gunn’s 'Superman.' They delve into their thoughts on the movie, James Gunn’s vision for the character, David Corenswet as Superman/Clark Kent, the heavy amount of themes in the film, the world-building of the new DCU, and more!

Also, The Ringer-Verse is going to Comic-Con! We'll be hosting our very own panel at 6 p.m. PT on Thursday, July 24, at Grand 10 & 11, Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina for all badge holders.

Intro (00:00)Opening Snapshot (09:53)Initial Thoughts (21:23)David Corenswet as Superman/Clark Kent (48:34)Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane (57:27)The Themes of 'Superman' (01:01:51)Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor (01:16:29)Clark’s Parents (01:29:37)Krypto! (01:44:25)Mr. Terrific and the Justice Gang (01:49:14)Jimmy Olsen and Friends (02:01:17)Post-Credit Scenes (02:06:32)

Hosts: Mallory RubinGuests: Van Lathan and Sean FennesseyProducers: John Richter and Eduardo OcampoSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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The ‘Superman’ Deep Dive

Destiny has brought you here, this podcast is your density. Mal and Jo are back as they celebrate the 40th anniversary of ‘Back to the Future'! They discuss the cultural impact the franchise has made, Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly, timeline theories, and of course the incestuous horndog legend that is Lorraine McFly. Next, they come up with 12.1 questions about film and share their top five time-travel moments of the quarter century.

(00:00) Intro

(00:56) ‘Back to the Future’ turns 40!

(07:36) Opening snapshot

(01:09:30) 1.21 Gigawhats (12.1 questions about ‘Back to the Future’)

(01:10:05) Most quotable line

(01:14:25) What’s the most 1985 thing about this movie?

(01:19:43) Best Biff-ism

(01:24:58) Most ironic statement from either Marty McFly pre-time travel, or other people post-time travel?

(01:27:48) Crispiest Glover moment?

(01:33:47) Most iconic costume? (Non-Orange Puffy Vest Edition)

(01:37:00) Most concerning Einstein moment

(01:41:20) Favorite example of the BTTF franchise’s cultural impact

(01:51:06) Favorite needle drop?

(01:53:47) Chrispiest Lloyd moment?

(02:01:07) What’s your biggest time-travel quibble?

(02:06:19) What’s the horniest moment not involving incest?

(02:08:03) The most astonishing incest moment?

(02:13:01) Top five time-travel moments of the quarter century

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Producers: Jessie Lopez and John Richter

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Back to the Future' Turns 40, and Our Top Time-Travel Moments

Mal and Jo are back to wrap up ‘Squid Game’ Season 3! They break down the final three episodes by discussing the final game, a CGI baby, a surprising cameo, and more! Later, they discuss what games should be in the American version.

(00:00) Intro(09:07) ‘Fourth Wing’ and ‘The Last of Us’ News(22:04) Opening Snapshot(36:04) Was the Final Game Captivating Enough?(51:55) Which Death Hit You the Hardest?(01:12:54) Too Much Baby-in-Peril Action?(01:16:43) Thoughts on Myung-gi(01:26:24) No-eul and 246(01:30:28) Jun-ho(01:32:29) Favorite or Least Favorite Payoff(01:36:18) Cate Blanchett Cameo(01:39:39) What Games Should Be in the American Season?

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Squid Game' Season 3, Episodes 4-6 Reactions

Mal and Jo are back for some more life-or-death games in ‘Squid Game’ Season 3! They break down the first three episodes by discussing the characters and relationships they were most invested in, as well as the emotional moments, surprising twists, and meaningful deaths.

(00:00) Intro(00:53) ‘Project Hail Mary’ trailer reaction(12:55) ‘Squid Game’(41:12) Characters we’re invested in(49:48) Relationships we’re invested in(01:01:24) Most meaningful death(01:13:07) Most intriguing commentary(01:24:20) What’s the deal with the VIPs?(01:29:36) Most emotional moment(01:37:07) Most surprising twist(01:38:42) Most harrowing game

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Squid Game' Season 3, Episodes 1-3 Reactions

Mal and Jo are back in Hawkins and the Upside Down for a rewatch of ‘Stranger Things’ in the run-up to the fifth and final season. First up: Revisiting Season 1! They talk about their original experience with the show and hand out some superlatives!

(00:00) Intro(06:21) Opening Snapshot(29:48) Favorite Episode(36:43) Most Important Friendship(48:19) Funniest Moment(51:34) Most Emotional Moment(01:01:24) Scariest Moment(01:08:41) Most Electric Moment(01:14:22) Best Coming-of-Age Moment(01:19:00) Honoring the Nerds(01:25:32) Best Quote(01:27:31) Most Memorable Visual(01:33:35) Goopiest Goop(01:35:50) The Internet Was Wrong About This(01:41:29) Favorite Pop Culture Reference(01:45:02) Most Potent Use of '80s Nostalgia(01:46:55) Fit Lord(01:49:46) Best Needle Drop(01:51:33) Most Netflix-y Subtitle(01:52:32) Most Enticing Endgame Setup(02:01:57) Biggest Season 5 Question(02:10:24) Season 1 MVP

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Stranger Things’ Season 1 Revisited

Mal and Joanna return once again to a galaxy far, far away to discuss the latest episode of ‘Andor.’ But first, they are joined by Ben Lindbergh to take a deeper look into Saw Gerrera, his character history, and how he interacts with the rest of the rebels (7:33). Then, they go for a deep dive into the episode, breaking down each character and storyline, while answering your questions (42:10).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin
Guest: Ben Lindbergh
Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal
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'Andor' Episode 8 Deep Dive

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