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The Ringer

Welcome to ‘House of R,’ where Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson explore your favorite fictional universes with their signature Deep Dives into everything from ‘Game of Thrones’ to ‘Star Wars,’ ‘The Lord of the Rings’ to Marvel, and beyond. Whether they’re parsing mythology, story themes, and character arcs or tracing influences across decades of fantasy and sci-fi stories, Jo and Mal will be here weekly with Deep Dives into new nerd culture releases, nostalgic revisitations of their favorite tales in fandom, Hype Meters, drafts, mailbags, watch lists, top moments countdowns, recommendations, and more.

House of R

Mal and Jo jump right into another deep dive on Episode 4 of 'Lanterns,' and somehow we’re already halfway through Season 1! 

They break down some major theories surrounding the Manhunters, the growing mystery and increasingly strange events unfolding in Rushville, and the complicated dynamic between Hal Jordan and John Stewart as their relationship continues to spiral downwards—or perhaps evolve!(00:00) Intro(03:52) Opening snapshot(20:30) Hal’s Sinestro visit continues(51:16) John shops with the townies(58:31) Water tower recon(01:04:09) Bringing Kerry up to speed(01:10:25) Lianna pays John a visit(01:18:28) Drill-time bonding(01:24:54) Inside Macon’s weenie(01:31:21) Macon’s other weenie(01:38:43) Zoe’s visit takes a turn(01:42:46) Slaughterhouse sleuthing(01:54:40) Hector’s gambit meets Hal’s gambit(02:04:56) A frosty car ride homeHosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Lanterns' Episode 4 Deep Dive

Mal and Jo are finally back in Sunnydale to continue their ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ rewatch! This time, they’re breaking down the first half of Season 5 (through Episode 10, “Into the Woods”). They talk about an incredible Spike episode, say goodbye to Riley, discuss the introduction of Dawn, and more! Plus, they give out some superlatives!

(00:00) Intro(02:55) Opening Snapshot(45:12) Our favorite: S5E7, “Fool for Love”(01:13:26) Superlatives

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducer: Carlos ChiribogaProduction Assistant: Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ Season 5 Rewatch (Part 1)

Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into "OutKast," the third episode of ‘Lanterns.’ They talk about the reveal of John’s origin story, his parents’ deal with the Guardians, John’s interview, and more!

(00:00) Intro(03:49) Opening snapshot(38:10) John’s interview begins(01:00:16) The Ring chooses John Sr.(01:11:59) Bernadette makes a bargain with the Guardians(01:21:13) John’s Gray Wolf mission(01:27:50) Bernadette and John Sr. form a plan(01:40:16) Lianna inserts the Hal wedge(01:45:12) John learns his path(01:48:11) Shooting lessons(01:50:01) John’s long walk home(01:53:59) John learns the truth(01:58:28) John’s discharge(02:05:27) John’s test arrives(02:10:00) Junior(02:11:31) Rapid-fire theory and comics spoilers corner

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducer: Carlos ChiribogaProduction Assistant: Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Lanterns’ Episode 3 Deep Dive

Mal and Jo sit down with Ringer guest Sean Fennessey! They discuss the special Orioles moment for Mal and Jo this past weekend, go into a general discussion about 'Oppenheimer' to prime up the conversation, and then proceed to dive into each of their 15 superlative picks for the film.(00:00) Intro(13:29) Oppenheimer revisited(1:00:10) SuperlativesHosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Oppenheimer' With Sean Fennessey | Nolan Revisited

Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the second episode of ‘Lanterns,’ “Trust Fall.” They talk about everything from Hal’s detective work to our first look at Sinestro!

(00:00) Intro(08:15) Opening Snapshot(22:58) 2016(32:06) Cold open(46:30) Hal works the case(53:14) A very harried Sheriff Kerry(01:01:57) Of corpses and mansions and super suits(01:17:58) Hello, Earl!(01:20:05) John (and his bird) get Lantern-napped(01:23:29) Kerry and Hal team up(01:32:41) Of Manhunters and Red Lanterns???(01:40:33) Sheriff Kerry’s very wary(01:48:24) Trust is running very thin in Rushville, Nebraska(01:57:28) Enter Sinestro(02:02:08) Rapid-fire Theory and Comic Spoilers Corner

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducer: Carlos ChiribogaProduction Assistant: Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Lanterns’ Episode 2 Deep Dive

Mal and Jo are live from Oriole Park at Camden Yards to get you hyped for the things they are most looking forward to this fall season! Plus, the Voice of the Orioles, Kevin Brown joins the show! 

(00:00)(01:15) Fall Hype Meter(06:06) ‘Resident Evil’ and ‘Whalefall’(08:47) ‘Godzilla Minus Zero’(10:54) ‘Threshing Day’ and ‘A Court of Splintered Harmony’(12:58) ‘Practical Magic 2’(14:05) ‘Percy Jackson and the Olympians’ Season 3(15:52) ‘The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping’(17:26) ‘Avatar: Seven Havens’(19:26) ‘Blade Runner 2099’(21:54) ‘Hope’(23:26) ‘Wicker’(27:08) ‘Dead Beat’(28:38) ‘Clayface’(30:42) ‘Wildwood’(33:07) ‘Lanterns’(35:18) ‘VisionQuest’(38:31) ‘The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power’ Season 3(42:17) Kevin Brown joins the show!

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinGuest: Kevin BrownProducer: Carlos ChiribogaSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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The 2026 Fall Hype Meter Live from Oriole Park at Camden Yards

Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the premiere of the newest DC show, ‘Lanterns.’ They talk about everything from the dynamic between Hal and John to that shocking ending! But first, they discuss all of the news that came out of D23 from the ‘X-Men’ casting announcement to a ‘Star Wars: Starfighter’ trailer!

(00:00) Intro

(04:49) Opening Snapshot

(29:27) D23 check-in

(47:14) 1996: Young John and the red apple

(59:20) 2016: Hal and John go for a drive

(01:10:47) There’s hail in Rushville

(01:14:11) Tacos, selfies, and urgent warnings

(01:20:28) High school (football) is hell

(01:29:04) Hal gets arrested, John gets laid

(01:34:42) Hal meets the Macons

(01:42:40) Hal interrogates Waylon the Alien

(01:53:57) 2026: Back to the bleachers

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Production Assistant: Scott Lee

Studio Production: Jacob Cornett and Jeff Jeff Shearin

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Lanterns’ Episode 1 Deep Dive. Plus, X-Men Casting and More D23 News

Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3 finale, "The Treasons at Tumbleton." They discuss everything that happened at the Battle of Tumbleton, Rhaenyra’s many mistakes, Alys’s new backstory, and more! (00:00) Intro(09:57) Opening Snapshot(25:18) Opening credits(30:22) Rhaenyra learns about Aegon and Sunfyre(48:17) Baela calls out Rhaenyra(52:07) Alyn takes command of the Velaryon men(59:44) Ormund knights Daeron(01:03:16) Ulf the White goes full Ulf the Sot(01:06:39) Rhaenyra dismisses Mysaria(01:12:58) Mysaria warns Helaena(01:21:51) Alys reveals her backstory(01:31:23) Rhaenyra force-feeds Helaena(01:35:52) Rhaenyra debuts a new look(01:44:17) Gwayne hatches a plan …(01:50:41) … Which Daemon immediately rejects(01:54:56) Aegon pays a surprise visit to Harrenhal(02:00:27) Rhaenyra orders the High Septon’s death(02:05:39) Rhaenyra shares the prophecy with the masses(02:11:47) The Battle of Tumbleton begins(02:20:42) Ormund is bowled over by betrayal and bowel movements(02:27:41) The human battles before the flame(02:31:28) Ulf chooses … Team Ulf(02:33:40) The fog of dragon war(02:37:52) Rhaenyra discovers Helaena’s tapestry(02:42:07) Dragon math update(02:44:33) Book spoilers!Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducer: Carlos ChiribogaProduction Assistant: Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 8 Deep Dive

Mal and Jo sit down with 'House of The Dragon' showrunner and Co-Creator, Ryan Condal! They discuss some of the adaptive changes made on the show, if they were tempted to keep Ormund around, the reveal of Alys's backstory, and more!(00:00) Intro(02:13) Morally Gray Characters in ‘House of the Dragon’(05:53) Aegon and Rhaenyra’s Dynamic(07:31) Rhaenyra’s Reign and Viserys’s Legacy(11:53) What’s Next for Mysaria?(14:28) Ormund’s Fate(17:55) Aegon and Aemond’s Relationship(20:02) The Targaryens and Their Crazy Shit(25:57) Alys Rivers’s Backstory Revealed(29:25) Dragon Bonds(37:14) Halaena’s Destiny and the Tapestry(42:32) Daeron’s CharacteristicsHosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory RubinProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and Scott LeeStudio Production: Jacob CornettSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell 
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‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3 Breakdown With Showrunner and Co-Creator Ryan Condal

Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson are excited to give you all of their thoughts on the final episode of ‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3! They discuss Rhaenyra’s speech, Ormund’s fate, Ulf’s betrayal, and more!

(00:00) Intro

(01:25) CR’s recap

(03:14) Overall thoughts

(06:53) What’s next for Rhaenyra?

(19:30) Helaena’s fate

(26:19) Daemon and Corlys

(31:35) Ormund’s death and his arc

(35:16) Hugh and Ulf’s allegiance

(40:48) Aegon and Aemond’s reunion

(46:52) Alys’s backstory

(50:00) Alyn’s loyalty

(54:04) Addam and Baela buckling under Rhaenyra’s rule

Hosts: Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin, and Joanna Robinson

Producers: Aleya Zenieris, Carlos Chiriboga, Scott Lee, and Jacob Cornett

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Set Production: Jonathan Ratliff and Gitu Mehra

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘House of the Dragon’ Season 3, Episode 8 Reactions | Talk the Thrones

We have made our pod a sunless place! But it is full of great discussion on the latest episode of 'Andor,' including some of the best 'Star Wars' content to ever exist! (09:55). Later, Ben Lindbergh joins to discuss some of the best speeches in 'Star Wars' history, and what makes a great speech (90:26). All before an illuminating chat with episode director Toby Haynes about this magnificent episode of television (02:07:31).
If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin
Guest: Ben Lindbergh
Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman
Social: Jomi Adeniran
Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal
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'Andor' Episode 10 Deep Dive, Plus Toby Haynes

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