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The Ringer

Welcome to ‘House of R,’ where Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson explore your favorite fictional universes with their signature Deep Dives into everything from ‘Game of Thrones’ to ‘Star Wars,’ ‘The Lord of the Rings’ to Marvel, and beyond. Whether they’re parsing mythology, story themes, and character arcs or tracing influences across decades of fantasy and sci-fi stories, Jo and Mal will be here weekly with Deep Dives into new nerd culture releases, nostalgic revisitations of their favorite tales in fandom, Tropes Course examinations, Hall of Fame inductions, Hype Meters, drafts, mailbags, watch lists, top moments countdowns, recommendations, and more.

House of R

Mal, Jo, and Rob come together to dive deep into Episode 5 of ‘Alien: Earth’! First, they catch up on how Jo is liking the season so far. Then, they talk about the decision to put a mini ‘Alien’ movie inside the show, the revelations about Morrow’s history, and more. Later, Mal and Jo are joined by showrunner Noah Hawley and the actor who plays Morrow, Babou Ceesay, to talk all about this intense episode!

(00:00) Intro(09:07) Jo’s Episode 1-4 Takes(34:10) A Mini ‘Alien’ Movie in our TV Show!(59:23) Morrow’s History(01:06:48) The Boy/Petrovich Reveal(01:08:20) Please Pick the Worst Way to Die(01:29:07) Humans: We Have Some Notes(01:33:43) Aliens: We Stand in Awe(01:41:24) Noah Hawley and Babou Ceesay

Hosts: Mallory Rubin, Joanna Robinson, and Rob MahoneyGuests: Noah Hawley and Babou CeesayProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Alien: Earth' Episode 5 Deep Dive. Plus, Noah Hawley and Babou Ceesay

Mal and Jo are back together and in Hawkins to continue their rewatch of ‘Stranger Things’ in the run-up to the fifth and final season. Next up: revisiting Season 2! They talk about their original experience with this season and hand out some superlatives!

(00:00) Intro

(08:46) Opening snapshot

(22:08) Best New Addition

(31:03) Most Important Relationship

(38:39) Funniest Moment

(42:46) Most Emotional Moment

(45:45) Scariest Moment

(54:12) Goopiest Moment

(57:51) Best Coming-of-Age Moment

(01:03:16) Award for Honoring the Nerds

(01:10:05) Ship Wars

(01:15:38) Best Quote

(01:18:03) Most Memorable Visual

(01:22:01) Favorite Pop Culture Influence

(01:24:49) Most Potent Use of ’80s Nostalgia

(01:27:59) ’80s parenting: We have some notes

(01:31:14) Sophomore slump miscalculation

(01:33:47) The Fit (or Hair) Lord of S2

(01:36:17) Best Needle Drop

(01:39:01) The Most Netflix-y Subtitle

(01:41:27) Season MVP

(01:46:33) The Most Enticing Endgame Setup

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Jon Jones

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Stranger Things’ Season 2 Revisited

Mal and Rob are back to dive deep into the fourth episode of ‘Alien: Earth.’ They talk about Wendy’s new skill, Morrow and Slightly’s chats, the xenolung, and more!

(00:00) Intro(03:29) Opening Snapshot(09:34) The Opening Montage(13:09) Diagnosing Wendy(51:06) The Xenolung(57:54) Nibs’s Session With Dame Sylvia(01:04:45) Wendy Shows Hermit Her Room(01:08:02) Peter Pan Corner(01:11:52) Morrow and Slightly Have a Chat(01:18:17) Arthur Implores Dame Sylvia(01:27:35) ​​Morrow Levels Up His Control(01:31:13) Atom Reminds Hermit Who’s in Charge(01:37:04) Boy and Wendy Have a Chat(01:45:12) Tootles Requests a New Name(01:48:25) This Poor Sheep!

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Rob MahoneyProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and Jon JonesSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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'Alien: Earth' Episode 4 Deep Dive

Mal is joined by Mike Golic Jr. to dive deep(ish) into the ‘Peacemaker’ season 2 premiere! They talk about the continuity retcon, where we find all of our characters, and, of course, the orgy. Later, Mal talks to James Gunn about the show!

(00:00) Intro(07:58) Opening Snapshot(18:24) The New Opening Credits Song and Dance(25:24) The Continuity Retcon(31:15) A.R.G.U.S(41:10) The 11th Street Kids(01:05:53) Peacemaker(01:45:30) James Gunn Interview

Host: Mallory RubinGuests: Mike Golic Jr. and James GunnProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Peacemaker’ Season 2 Premiere Deep Dive. Plus: James Gunn!

Mal is once again joined by Rob Mahoney to dive deep(ish) into the third episode of ‘Alien: Earth.’ They talk about Wendy and Hermit’s relationship, Boy Kavalier’s motivations, the lost boys starting to turn on each other, and more!

(00:00) Intro(09:31) Opening Snapshot(11:55) Wendy and Hermit(38:13) Creatures(48:32) The Lost Boys(01:26:58) The Prodigy Braintrust(01:48:50) Morrow

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Rob MahoneyProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Alien: Earth’ Episode 3 Deep Dive

Mal is joined by many of your favorite Ringer hosts to talk about what stocks they’re buying, selling, or holding in the world of fandom. From the MCU and DCU to video game adaptations and ‘KPop Demon Hunters,’ they talk about it all!

(00:00) Intro(01:57) Sean: Video game adaptations(15:57) Van: The MCU(01:00:01) Charles: Tom Holland(01:14:16) Daniel: The DCU(01:22:08) Ben: Warner Bros. Pictures(01:32:29) Meg: ‘Brimstone’(01:41:57) Jomi: ‘The Mandalorian and Grogu’(01:52:27) Steve: ‘Battle Beast’(02:00:41) Kate: Cute animal merch(02:10:28) Jodi: Survival stories(02:23:05) Andy: Whimsy

Host: Mallory RubinGuests: Sean Fennessey, Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Daniel Chin, Ben Lindbergh, Meg Schuster, Jomi Adeniran, Steve Ahlman, Kate Halliwell, Jodi Walker, and Andy Greenwald

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterAdditional Production Support: Arjuna RamgopowellSocial: Jomi Adeniran
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2025 Stock Watch: DCU, MCU, and More Buys, Sells, and Holds

Mal is joined by Rob Mahoney to dive deep into the first two episodes of ‘Alien: Earth’! They talk about everything from the Xenomorph to the tech overlords to some unexpected ‘Peter Pan’ references. Later, you can listen to an interview with Noah Hawley and Alex Lawther that Mal and Jo did at Comic-Con!

(00:00) Intro(14:23) Opening snapshot(30:42) The Maginot(01:02:02) Tech overlords(01:33:29) The Lost Boys(01:47:35) Hermit and Wendy(02:13:09) Odds and ends(02:17:33) Noah Hawley and Alex Lawther

Hosts: Mallory Rubin, Rob Mahoney, and Joanna RobinsonGuests: Noah Hawley and Alex LawtherProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and John RichterSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Alien: Earth’ Episodes 1-2 Deep Dive, Plus Noah Hawley and Alex Lawther!

Mal and Jo travel across the multiverse to Earth-828 to break down the latest entry in the MCU, ‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’! They dive deep into each character, discuss the visuals and the story, and break down what it all means going forward.

(00:00) Intro(08:18) Opening Snapshot(18:05) Box Office(23:58) State of the MCU(28:21) How We Got Here(48:49) Reed Richards(01:22:02) Sue Storm(01:31:43) Ben Grimm(01:39:06) Johnny Storm(01:41:15) Silver Surfer(01:49:57) Galactus(01:53:24) Franklin Richards(01:55:21) Stinger

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducers: Carlos Chiriboga and Jonathan FriasSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Deep Dive

Mal and Jo are coming to you from San Diego Comic-Con to give you their favorite moments from the convention! From the ‘Alien Earth’ panel that Jo hosted to taking pictures with cosplayers, they talk about it all!

(00:00) Intro(03:02) Jo’s panel reactions(05:06) Meeting the listeners(09:00) ‘Peacemaker’ panel(11:58) Mal’s panel reactions(16:25) ‘Percy Jackson’ panel(20:02) Hanging with the Ringer-Verse crew(22:54) ‘Interview with the Vampire’ panel(29:06) ‘Project Hail Mary’ panel(33:37) ‘Alien: Earth’ panel

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonProducer: Carlos ChiribogaSocial: Jomi AdeniranAdditional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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Our Top 5 Moments from San Diego Comic-Con 2025

Hot Nolan Summer continues! Mal and Jo are back to revisit Christopher Nolan’s 2010 movie, ‘Inception.’ They discuss how the movie holds up 15 years after its release, and give out some superlatives. They break down everything from the most baffling accent to the sickest set piece, and more!

(00:00) Intro

(10:38) Opening Snapshot

(18:04) Hot Nolan Summer: 'Inception'

(01:12:54) Funniest Moment

(01:17:36) Sickest Set Piece

(01:22:51) Who Is the REAL Villain of This Movie?

(01:30:47) Most Exquisitely Gorgeous Shot

(01:37:58) The Scene You Think About the Most

(01:48:34) Where Would You Put the One F-bomb?

(01:50:28) Most Baffling Accent

(01:54:50) Best Use of a Nolan-verse Regular

(01:59:22) Best Stunt(02:04:54) Stealth MVP

(02:09:32) Best Dead Wife Moment

(02:11:31) Clearest “Great Man” Moment

(02:14:16) Regrettable Miscasting

(02:17:32) Most Satisfying Twist

(02:22:54) The Horniest Moment of This Film

(02:25:28) The Line that Hits the Hardest

(02:27:57) Most Devastating Moment

(02:31:28) Most Unforgettable Zimmerism

(02:32:54) Never Returned to the Nolan-verse But Should Have

(02:34:28) The Most Nolan Thing About This Movie

(02:35:25) What About ‘The Odyssey’ Are You Most Hyped For?

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and John Richter

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell
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‘Alien: Earth’ Episode 3 Deep Dive

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