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The Ringer

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Van and Rachel discuss the NBA dunk contest before reacting to leaks from an alleged burner account, and LeBron’s message to his Israeli fans. Then, Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove joins to discuss the Pam Bondi hearings, before Ed Zitron returns to shed light on the world of AI.

(0:00) Intro

(8:39) NBA dunk contest

(19:32) The very alleged Kevin Durant files

(39:42) LeBron James and Israel

(1:05:58) Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove interview

(1:42:07) Ed Zitron interview

(2:12:55) Hillary Clinton on migration

(2:22:36) Barack Obama confirms aliens are real?

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guests: Rep. Sydney Kamlager-Dove and Ed Zitron

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

For more from Ed Zitron: wheresyoured.at and betteroffline.com
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LeBron and Israel, the “Kevin Durant Files,” and the Beautiful Hellscape of Culver City

Van and Rachel welcome The Ringer’s Logan Murdock to react to Ja Rule’s confrontation with Uncle Murda and Tony Yayo on a flight, before they discuss more revelations from the Epstein files, hip-hop in the Trump era, and an HGTV show’s cancellation for the host's use of the N-word.

(0:00) Intro

(3:19) Ja Rule vs. G-Unit in 2026

(19:15) Latest Epstein updates

(1:02:15) Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels join the show

(1:39:33) James Talarico vs. Jasmine Crockett

(1:50:53) Hip-hop serves only itself?

(2:01:36) The N-word and HGTV’s ‘Rehab Addict’

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Logan Murdock, Symone Sanders Townsend, and Eugene Daniels

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

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Epstein Revelations, Ja Rule vs. G-Unit, and Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels

Van and Rachel talk about Bad Bunny’s halftime performance and the TPUSA “patriotic” alternative, before reacting to Donald Trump’s racist post of the Obamas and an odd detail in the Epstein files. Then, journalist and podcaster Jemele Hill joins to talk activism and gambling in sports.

(0:00) Intro

(5:24) Bad Bunny’s halftime show

(19:09) Jake Paul and Puerto Rico

(26:39) TPUSA’s halftime show

(33:30) Trump’s racist post

(49:26) Epstein typo or clue?

(59:49) Jemele Hill joins the show

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Jemele Hill

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

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Bad Bunny’s Halftime, Trump’s Racist Post, and Activism in Sports With Jemele Hill

Van and Rachel kick off the pod with a Shaboozey conversation before reacting to the latest ‘Michael’ trailer. Then they have a discussion on the latest Epstein release, the funding of ICE, and the Texas Senate race, which is turning ugly. And finally, Rachel reacts to the return of Chris Harrison.

(0:00) Intro

(10:06) Shaboozey apology

(20:27) ‘Michael’ trailer reaction

(26:27) Epstein files update

(43:45 ) ICE reform

(58:59) Race and the Texas Senate race

(1:18:57) Chris Harrison’s new dating series

(1:43:32) Tetairoa McMillan and the N-word

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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Chris Harrison: The Return of Traditional Love, Epstein Update, and ICE at the Polls

Van and Rachel react to the Grammys before discussing the arrests of journalists who were covering the protests in Minnesota and former Trump supporters Harvey Levin and Andrew Schulz speaking against the president. Then, the host of The Town, Matt Belloni, sheds light on the box office performance of ‘Melania’ before author Howard Bryant joins to discuss his latest book, 'Kings and Pawns: Jackie Robinson and Paul Robeson in America.'

(0:00) Intro

(3:49) 2026 Grammys

(16:14) Journalists arrested

(37:56) Harvey Levin and Andrew Schulz on Trump

(59:26) Matthew Belloni joins to talk ‘Melania’

(1:29:23) Howard Bryant joins to talk Jackie Robinson and Paul Robeson

(1:59:42) Sha’Carri Richardson jailed for speeding

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guests: Matthew Belloni and Howard Bryant

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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Don Lemon’s Arrest and ‘Melania’ a Box Office Hit? Plus, Howard Bryant on the Erasure of Paul Robeson

Van and Rachel discuss the documentary ‘Melania’ before reacting to Nicki Minaj’s appearance at a Trump event and the congressional fight over DHS. Plus, Ashley Allison, owner of The Root, joins to discuss the importance of Black media.

(0:00) Black Panther Party

(14:53) The ‘Melania’ movie

(27:47) Nicki Minaj and Trump

(52:26) Congress's fight over DHS

(1:18:27) Ashley Allison joins the show

(2:10:16) Ray J’s health

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Ashley Allison

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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Melania the "Trophy Wife," Nicki’s MAGA Turn, and Black Prestige Media With Ashley Allison

Van and Rachel react to Kanye’s apology in The Wall Street Journal, before discussing the violence in Minnesota. Plus, actor Aldis Hodge and showrunner Ben Watkins join to get us set for Season 2 of Amazon Prime Video’s ‘Cross.’

(0:00) Intro

(0:24) Kanye’s apology

(29:16) Another shooting in Minneapolis

(59:09) Texas Senate debate

(1:02:51) Chris Broussard’s bad tweet

(1:05:23) Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on Season 2 of ‘Cross’

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Ye’s Apology, Latest Death in Minneapolis, and Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on ‘Cross’

Van and Rachel react to the Oscar nominations before discussing Rachel’s newfound freedom and Michelle Obama’s appearance on Call Her Daddy. Then, there’s drama between LeBron and the Lakers, and media personality Keith Edwards joins to break down his coverage of the Texas Senate race.

(0:00) Intro

(2:18) Oscar nominations

(14:14) Rachel’s IG post

(20:41) Michelle Obama on Call Her Daddy

(39:05) Lakers drama

(49:34) Taylor Swift calls Justin Baldoni a “bitch”

(59:35) Keith Edwards on Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Keith Edwards

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Michelle Appears on Call Her Daddy, Rachel’s Freedom, and Keith Edwards on Critiquing Crockett

Van and Rachel react to a weekend of sports before discussing Stephen A. Smith and frat life, the Black Panther Party in 2026, and military aid in Israel. Plus, Gavin Newsom caves to Ben Shapiro, and Candace Owens has a theory … a conspiracy theory.

(0:00) Intro

(0:58) Sisqo or Ne-Yo

(9:01) Feeling for Josh Allen

(24:21) Stephen A. Smith misspeaks

(44:20) A Divine 9 discussion

(57:50) The Black Panther Party in 2026

(1:11:20) AIPAC and congressional funding

(1:36:07) Gavin Newsom sits with Ben Shapiro

(1:53:33) The Charlie Kirk conspiracy

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Feeling for Josh Allen, Stephen A. and the Bruhs, Plus Charlie Kirk the Time Traveler

Van and Rachel discuss Teyana Taylor’s comments on Ye, Kai Cenat’s career shift, and Druski’s megachurch skit. Then an update on the conflicts with ICE agents before associate professor Hussein Banai joins to help shed light on the conflict in Iran.

(0:00) Intro

(15:44) Teyana Taylor and Kanye West

(31:17) Kai Cenat’s new path

(42:39) Druski’s megachurch skit

(1:00:14) J. Cole’s upcoming album

(1:02:17) The war with ICE

(1:19:00) Hussein “Huss” Banai on the Iranian conflict

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Hussein “Huss” Banai

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas

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Epstein Revelations, Ja Rule vs. G-Unit, and Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels

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