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Hannah Fry

Join mathematician and broadcaster Professor Hannah Fry as she goes behind the scenes of the world-leading research lab to uncover the extraordinary ways AI is transforming our world. No hype. No spin, just compelling discussions and grand scientific ambition.

DeepMind: The Podcast

Timecodes:

 • 00:00 Intro

 • 1:07 Defining AI agents

 • 4:44 Agentic exploration in science and research

 • 15:46 Delegation between agents

 • 22:46 Agentic security and traps

 • 29:31 Building an agentic economy

 • 33:22 Cognitive monoculture

 • 36:29 Distributed intelligence 

To read the research, search for: Distributional AGI Safety, May 2026 Intelligent AI Delegation, February 2026 Virtual Agent Economies, September 2025 

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When millions of AI agents meet

Seoul, March 2016. Two players sit hunched over a 19x19 grid covered in a sea of black and white stones. They are playing the ancient game of Go - a game of unimaginable complexity long thought impossible for a machine to master. On one side is Lee Sedol (Sae Dol), a legendary 18-time Go world champion. On the other, AlphaGo, a neural network based AI system built on a powerful technique called reinforcement learning. In the blink of an eye, the world changed. Exactly one decade later, we look back at the match that sparked the modern AI revolution. From algorithmic discovery to the solving of scientific grand challenges like protein folding, the foundation was laid right there on that wooden board. 

Join Hannah Fry, Pushmeet Kohli (VP, Science) and Thore Graepel (AlphaGo team & Distinguished Research Scientist) as they unpick the legacy of AlphaGo. 

🎥 AlphaGo https://youtu.be/WXuK6gekU1Y 

🎥 The Thinking Game: https://youtu.be/d95J8yzvjbQ

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10 Years of AlphaGo: The Turning Point for AI | Thore Graepel & Pushmeet Kohli

Thanks for joining us this year. 

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Further reading

Levels of AGI paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.02462

The road to AGI (Google DeepMind Podcast, S2): https://youtu.be/Uy4OYU7PQYA

Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar 
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice

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The Arrival of AGI with Shane Legg (co-founder of DeepMind)

Learn more about AlphaFold: https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/

Watch the story behind AlphaFold in The Thinking Game, now available for free: https://youtu.be/d95J8yzvjbQ

Thank you to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
 • Video editor: Anthony Le
 • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin
 • Visual identity: Rob Ashley
 • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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AlphaFold: Grand Challenge to Nobel Prize with John Jumper

Learn more about Waymo: https://waymo.com/

Thank you to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
 • Video editor: Anthony Le
 • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin
 • Visual identity: Rob Ashley
 • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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Waymo: The future of autonomous driving with Vincent Vanhoucke

In part two, Hannah and Four tackle the human element at the heart of cybersecurity: Who are the bad actors, and what motivates them? They dissect the evolving strategies designed to stop social engineering attacks - like passkeys and risk-based authentication - and confront the complex security and privacy challenges that may be introduced by autonomous agents. Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed
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Pt.2 Beyond Phishing: Cyber Threats in the Age of AI with Four Flynn

Further reading:

 • CodeMender: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/introducing-codemender-an-ai-agent-for-code-security/
 • Cybersecurity at Google: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/ai-security-frontier-strategy-tools/
 • Threat intelligence report: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/adversarial-misuse-generative-ai

Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry 
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon 
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar 
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif 
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw 
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice 
 • Video editor: Bilal Merhi 
 • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin 
 • Visual identity: Rob Ashley 
 • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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Pt.1 Beyond Phishing: Cyber Threats in the Age of AI with Four Flynn

In this episode, Professor Hannah Fry speaks with Jack Parker-Holder and Shlomi Fruchter about Genie 3, a general-purpose world model that can generate an unprecedented diversity of interactive environments. The conversation covers how this model's auto-regressive nature allows for the creation of consistent, explorable worlds from text or image prompts, and how its capabilities differ from video generation models like Veo. 

Further reading

Genie 3SIMA, A generalist AI agent for 3D virtual environmentsSIMA, Google DeepMind: The PodcastxLand

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Genie 3: An Infinite World Model with Shlomi Fruchter and Jack Parker-Holder

This week's episode is a slight departure from our usual deep dives. Join Paige Bailey, DevRel lead, as she guides Hannah Fry though some of her favorite AI tools. Having spent years understanding the 'what' of these models, Hannah finally gets to experience the 'how’ – from generating prompts and 'vibe coding', to creating her own version of the infamous spaghetti meme.

Learn more and try the tools yourself:

 • Gemini: 
https://gemini.google.com/ • Google Labs: 
https://labs.google/ • AI Studio: 
https://aistudio.google.com/ • Veo 3: 
https://deepmind.google/models/veo/ • Flow: 
https://labs.google/flow/
Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
 • Production Manager: Dan Lazard
 • Studio Manager: Nicholas Duke
 • Video Director: Bernardo Resende
 • Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
 • Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
 • Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
 • Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
 • Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
 • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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