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Hannah Fry

Join mathematician and broadcaster Professor Hannah Fry as she goes behind the scenes of the world-leading research lab to uncover the extraordinary ways AI is transforming our world. No hype. No spin, just compelling discussions and grand scientific ambition.

DeepMind: The Podcast

Can artificial intelligence solve one of science’s most chaotic physics puzzles? In this episode, Professor Hannah Fry sits down with Peter Battaglia, Senior Director of Research at Google DeepMind, to explore how machine learning is transforming global weather forecasting. From providing critical early warnings for Category 5 storms like Hurricane Melissa to predicting renewable energy supply and agricultural impacts, see how models like GraphCast and WeatherNext 3 are building upon decades of numerical physics to reshape our understanding of the atmosphere.

Learn more about WeatherNext 3, our most advanced global weather AI model yet: https://deepmind.google/science/weathernext/

Timestamps: 

00:00 Introduction

00:38 Hurricane Melissa

11:50 Why weather forecasting is hard

14:13 Traditional models vs AI models 

21:55 Probabilistic forecasting 

26:00 WeatherNext 3 

33:00 Future outlook 

43:44 Hannah's reflections 
 

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Can AI help us better predict the weather?

Now, if you ask an AI a question, it will usually give you an absolute answer with unwavering authority, even if that answer turns out to be wrong. In fact, today's AI seems to be missing a fundamental human trait: self-doubt. Long before the current wave of large language models, one academic researcher was trying to give machines a sense of their own limitations. Zoubin Ghahramani has spent the last 30 years pioneering a type of intelligence built on the mathematics of uncertainty. Today, as a professor at Cambridge and VP of Research at Google DeepMind, Zoubin finds himself at the heart of another interesting debate: will improving machine uncertainty be one of the missing pieces to ever improving AI?

Timecodes:

 • 00:00 Introduction

 • 01:06 The role of uncertainty

 • 07:45 Correctness vs confidence

 • 09:40 Historical perspectives

 • 16:10 Bayesian thinking in AI

 • 26:30 Uncertainty in the real world

 • 36:42 Future research and AGI

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The mathematics of AI uncertainty

Neel and his team are trying to do something phenomenally difficult: understand an intelligence that didn't come with a manual. Together, they explore the cutting-edge "neuroscience" of artificial intelligence—revealing the surprising, elegant structures being discovered inside these networks (like spare autoencoders), the inherent limits of looking under the hood, and why interpretability is absolutely essential if we are to build safe, aligned and trustworthy AI as we move towards AGI. Learn more about this area of research via https://deepmind.google/

Timecodes

 • 00:00 Introduction

 • 02:41 Motivation for interpretability research

 • 04:01 Mechanistic interpretability

 • 08:14 Chain of thought monitoring

 • 18:14 Interpretability techniques

 • 35:00 Auditing models for safety

 • 48:53 What comes next for interpretability

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Understanding the inner thoughts of AI

Timecodes:

 • 00:00 Intro

 • 1:07 Defining AI agents

 • 4:44 Agentic exploration in science and research

 • 15:46 Delegation between agents

 • 22:46 Agentic security and traps

 • 29:31 Building an agentic economy

 • 33:22 Cognitive monoculture

 • 36:29 Distributed intelligence 

To read the research, search for: Distributional AGI Safety, May 2026 Intelligent AI Delegation, February 2026 Virtual Agent Economies, September 2025 

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When millions of AI agents meet

Seoul, March 2016. Two players sit hunched over a 19x19 grid covered in a sea of black and white stones. They are playing the ancient game of Go - a game of unimaginable complexity long thought impossible for a machine to master. On one side is Lee Sedol (Sae Dol), a legendary 18-time Go world champion. On the other, AlphaGo, a neural network based AI system built on a powerful technique called reinforcement learning. In the blink of an eye, the world changed. Exactly one decade later, we look back at the match that sparked the modern AI revolution. From algorithmic discovery to the solving of scientific grand challenges like protein folding, the foundation was laid right there on that wooden board. 

Join Hannah Fry, Pushmeet Kohli (VP, Science) and Thore Graepel (AlphaGo team & Distinguished Research Scientist) as they unpick the legacy of AlphaGo. 

🎥 AlphaGo https://youtu.be/WXuK6gekU1Y 

🎥 The Thinking Game: https://youtu.be/d95J8yzvjbQ

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10 Years of AlphaGo: The Turning Point for AI | Thore Graepel & Pushmeet Kohli

Thanks for joining us this year. 

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The Future of Intelligence with Demis Hassabis (Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind)

Further reading

Levels of AGI paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.02462

The road to AGI (Google DeepMind Podcast, S2): https://youtu.be/Uy4OYU7PQYA

Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar 
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice

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The Arrival of AGI with Shane Legg (co-founder of DeepMind)

Learn more about AlphaFold: https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/

Watch the story behind AlphaFold in The Thinking Game, now available for free: https://youtu.be/d95J8yzvjbQ

Thank you to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
 • Video editor: Anthony Le
 • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin
 • Visual identity: Rob Ashley
 • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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AlphaFold: Grand Challenge to Nobel Prize with John Jumper

Learn more about Waymo: https://waymo.com/

Thank you to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

 • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
 • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
 • Editor: Rami Tzabar
 • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
 • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
 • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
 • Video editor: Anthony Le
 • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin
 • Visual identity: Rob Ashley
 • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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Waymo: The future of autonomous driving with Vincent Vanhoucke

In part two, Hannah and Four tackle the human element at the heart of cybersecurity: Who are the bad actors, and what motivates them? They dissect the evolving strategies designed to stop social engineering attacks - like passkeys and risk-based authentication - and confront the complex security and privacy challenges that may be introduced by autonomous agents. Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed
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Pt.2 Beyond Phishing: Cyber Threats in the Age of AI with Four Flynn

In this episode, Professor Hannah Fry speaks with Jack Parker-Holder and Shlomi Fruchter about Genie 3, a general-purpose world model that can generate an unprecedented diversity of interactive environments. The conversation covers how this model's auto-regressive nature allows for the creation of consistent, explorable worlds from text or image prompts, and how its capabilities differ from video generation models like Veo. 

Further reading

Genie 3SIMA, A generalist AI agent for 3D virtual environmentsSIMA, Google DeepMind: The PodcastxLand

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Genie 3: An Infinite World Model with Shlomi Fruchter and Jack Parker-Holder

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