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The DSR Network

This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.

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In a speech to military officials, President Trump went full fascist: He said America is under “invasion from within,” declared that the generals in the room will be enlisted in a “war” against that enemy, and bizarrely insisted that U.S. cities should be used as military training grounds. We think this is Trump’s most explicit declaration yet that he sees large swaths of America as themselves constituting a kind of enemy nation within our borders. The display prompted Senator Ruben Gallego to scorch Trump at length as an “idiot,” suggesting that mockery and contempt is a good approach in situations like these. We talked to Ian Reifowitz, a history professor at SUNY Empire State University and co-author of Riling up the Base. He explains how Trump is relying on longtime right-wing political tropes that trade on grievance and hate, how Trump-MAGA are supercharging this in a newly emboldened way, and why it’s all heading to a very dark place.

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The Daily Blast: Trump’s Rants to Generals Spiral into Madness as Dem Unloads: “Idiot!”

On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we break down the imminent government shutdown, Trump and Hegseth’s unusual Quantico meeting, Israel and the US’s ceasefire proposal for Gaza, and more. 
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DSR Daily September 30: Government Shutdown Imminent

Investigators are still examining the motives driving Thomas Jacob Sanford, who opened fire on a Mormon church in Michigan, killing four people. Yet White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt quickly link the killing to an alleged rash of anti-Christian violence. “This appears to be yet another targeted attack on Christians,” Leavitt insisted, amplifying a similar claim by President Trump. Yet this is backfiring: Evidence quickly emerged that the shooter may well be a Trump supporter motivated by anti-Mormon bigotry in particular. While it’s of course possible for someone to be a Trump supporter and also target Christians, Leavitt was plainly trying to turn this to the political advantage of Trump and the MAGA movement, and that’s gone awry. We talked to Sarah Posner, author of good books about the religious right, who explains how this all sheds light on a bigger story that we saw at play after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, too. It’s that Trump-MAGA relentlessly inculcate a sense of persecution among their armies of Evangelical supporters, to rally them for religious war against the Democratic, liberal, secular enemy within. Thus far, in this case, the facts aren’t cooperating. 

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The Daily Blast: Trump Press Sec’s Vile New Effort to Exploit Mormon Shooting Backfires

On the DSR Daily for Monday, we discuss Eric Adams ending his campaign in NY, the Democrat/Republican showdown over a funding bill, Trump ordering the deployment of troops in Portland, and more. 
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DSR Daily September 29: Eric Adams Exits Mayor Race

What if we told you that Donald Trump is a really unpopular president? Would that surprise you? It’s not something you hear much in the media. Yet in recent days new polls from the Associated Press, Gallup, Quinnipiac, Reuters, and the Economist all show Trump’s approval rating in terrible shape. He’s in the toilet on specific issues, too: On the economy and trade he’s polling in the 30s, and he’s deeply underwater on immigration, his “best” issue. Many of his most dramatic recent moments, from the failed Jimmy Kimmel ouster to the buffoonish indictment of James Comey, have flopped. We talked to Lakshya Jain, co-founder of the data firm Split Ticket and head of political data at The Argument, who’s been explaining that Trump is in a weak position. We talked about what the new data really shows, why the media—and Democrats!—still reflexively assume Trump is “strong,” and what it all means for the 2026 midterms.

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The Daily Blast: Trump Is a Weak, Failing President. 5 Brutal New Polls Tell the Story.

On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for September 26, we discuss the charges against former FBI Director James Comey, Trump’s executive order facilitating a TikTok deal, a new slate of tariffs on pharmaceuticals, and more. 
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DSR Weekly Wrap-Up: James Comey Charged

Original air date: August 14, 2024

All eyes have been on Iran as the world waits a potential retaliatory strike on Israel. But what form will the strike take, and will it even happen? Regional experts Aaron David Miller and Barbara Slavin join Kori Schake and David Rothkopf to analyze the potential fallout of an Israeli/Iranian conflict and what the future holds for the region.

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FTA: Watching and Waiting: Israel, Iran, War and Ceasefire

Everybody and their mother is talking about AI, but how much of what people are saying is true? Powerful tech CEO’s surround the administration and Washington is abuzz with AI hype and everyday Americans range from excited to terrified of artificial intelligence. TechCrunch AI Editor Russell Brandom joins David Rothkopf to cut through the misinformation haze to explain why so many people are getting AI so wrong. 

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Siliconsciousness: What Washington (and Plenty of Other Folks) are Getting Wrong About AI

Free speech is under assault in America. The suspension of Jimmy Kimmel is just the latest in a series of measures taken by the Trump administration to crack down on speech, and it certainly won’t be the last. But now that more Americans are waking up to this crisis, what can we do to save free speech in America? Former CEO of PEN America Suzanne Nossel joins David Rothkopf to discuss all this and more. 
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NTK: How Do We Save Free Speech in America?

President Trump’s Justice Department is widely expected to indict former FBI director James Comey, someone the president has hated for years. Yet this push was just undermined when The New York Times reported a surprising turn of events: Career prosecutors reportedly informed DOJ political appointees that they have not been able to find evidence that would sustain a conviction. As the Times notes, a prosecutor handpicked by Trump is “racing” to secure an indictment anyway. And in a twisted rant about Comey, Trump exposed his animus and politicization of DOJ once again. All this may not stop the indictment. But it reveals just how sordid this has truly become, provides grounds to contest the prosecution later, and exposes Trump’s corruption of the justice system in a broader sense. We talked to Talking Points Memo editor-at-large David Kurtz, author of a great piece on this travesty. He explains the deeper states at play, the recourse we have, and why we need a whole new language to capture what’s really happening here.

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NTK: How Do We Save Free Speech in America?

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