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The DSR Network

This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.

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Deep State Radio

On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss Trump’s expansive new travel ban, the return of a wrongfully deported Guatemalan man, the administration’s new investigation into Joe Biden, and more. 
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The DSR Daily for June 5: Trump’s New Travel Ban

As you’ve surely heard, the feud between Donald Trump and Elon Musk has erupted, with the two men trading attacks on each other for hours. As of this recording, the last big things to happen are that Trump threatened to cut off all government contracts to Musk’s companies, and Musk then dropped what he called a “big bomb”—that Trump is in the "Epstein files." Former GOP strategist and Never Trumper Rick Wilson grasps the inner pathologies of MAGA like no one else, so we talked to Wilson about the latest Trump-Musk madness. He offers a counterintuitive take on why Musk’s attacks on Trump will trigger MAGA’s paranoid obsessions in an unexpectedly explosive way, why he thinks Musk has more weapons in this battle than Trump does, and why the White House has almost certainly entered into a “full panic” about where this is all going.

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The Daily Blast: Why Trump-Musk Feud Is Suddenly Driving White House into “Full Panic”

The New York Times reports that Donald Trump is telling advisers that his biggest regret from his first term was that he appointed “traitors.” As a result, his transition team is grilling prospective nominees to gauge their loyalty to Trump. Is there some way for Democrats to drive home how dangerous all this is? We chatted with Brian Beutler, author of the excellent Substack Off Message. He argues that even as Trump’s second-term plans are getting more overtly dangerous to the rule of law, Democrats need to do a lot more to alert the public to what’s coming—not just because it’s good politics, but because the country needs it.
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The Daily Blast: Trump’s Angry New Attacks on “Traitors” Show 2025 Plans Getting Darker

On the DSR Daily for Monday, we break down the shocking news out of Syria, the latest news from South Korea, Trump’s worrying interview on NBC, and more. 
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The DSR Daily for December 9: Assad Flees Syria

Marc sits down with former Green Beret Jack Murphy, author of the brand-new book, "We Defy: The Lost Chapters of Special Forces History," to talk about the book and why telling these stories not only honors the greats who served our nation, but also allows the American people to have transparency on how our tax dollars are very wisely spent. Plus, a chat on the evolution of Jack’s “Teamhouse” podcast, his time at Columbia University and his subsequent writing career, and his pending deep on Havana Syndrome. 

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AAI: "We Defy:” A Chat with Former Green Beret Jack Murphy on his New Book Honoring the Heroes of the Special Forces Community

These are heady times for MAGA. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Elon Musk are teaming up to slash the government to ribbons as part of Musk’s new Department of Government Efficiency. What could give MAGA a bigger thrill than that high-wattage duo? But Politico reports that some Republicans quietly fear that Greene’s involvement could become a major distraction from the Trump/GOP agenda. We talked to tech writer Gil Duran, a close observer of Musk’s machinations, who explains why the right-wing “techbro” worldview is so dangerous—and how Greene could make it even more combustible.
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The Daily Blast: GOPers Suddenly Admit MAGA Nitwit MTG Is Creating New Mess for Trump

On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover the numerous strikes on Syria, the charging of Luigi Mangione, Netanyahu taking the stand in his corruption trial, and more. 
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The DSR Daily for December 10: Bombing Raids in Syria

In recent days, Donald Trump and his advisers have left no doubt: He will deport as many of the 11 million undocumented people in this country as possible. But on Fox News, Alina Habba, who’s set to be a top White House lawyer, offered some new spin on the coming plan that revealed a lot about how Trump’s propagandists will try to defend the indefensible. We talked to Vanessa Cardenas, the executive director of America’s Voice, who grapples with the hardships that immigrants will soon face, why Latinos moved toward Trump, and how pro-immigration forces should rally in response to what's coming.
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The Daily Blast: Trumpy Alina Habba’s Revealing Fox News Hit Gives Away His Border Scam

On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we break down the Syrian government’s plans to rebuild, Senator Cotton blocking a bill to protect journalists, a federal judge blocking the sale of Infowars to the Onion, and more. 

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The DSR Daily for December 11: Judge Blocks Infowars Sale

With Bashar Al Assad’s regime at an end, Syria’s future is bright but uncertain. What comes next for the war-ravaged country, and how will the rest of the world respond? Regional expert Steven Heydemann joins Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, and David Rothkopf to break down this pivotal moment. 
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Reimagining Syria's Future and What It Means for the World

Corporate security consultant Jeremy Hurewitz (@Selllikeaspy) joins Marc Polymeropoulos (@mpolymer) to discuss his new book "Sell Like a Spy: the Art of Persuasion from the World of Espionage.” Jeremy discusses the power of relationships, his journey in writing the book, how active listening is a key skill - plus some very important predictions on where Juan Soto ends up (his beloved Yankees or Marc’s Red Sox?). A wonderful and positive chat that listeners will enjoy. 
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AAI: Can the Corporate World - and the Rest of Us - Learn a Thing or Two from Spies? with Author and Consultant Jeremy Hurewitz

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