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This season on CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones explores some of the challenges of leading through uncertainty. We explore the complexity of the changing nature of regulation and working with the federal government, the evolution of privacy and fraud, and how emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing are changing cyber. When you don’t know what questions to ask, you’re afraid to ask, or don’t know who to ask, CISO Perspectives provides the foundation for learning in this brave new world.

CSO Perspectives (public)

In the season finale of CSO Perspectives, Ethan Cook and Kim Jones reflect on a season of conversations exploring what it means to lead security in a rapidly evolving “brave new world.” From the realities behind AI hype and the slow-burn impact of quantum computing to the business forces shaping cybersecurity innovation, they revisit key lessons and lingering challenges facing today’s CISOs. The episode closes with an optimistic—but candid—look at why fundamentals, critical thinking, and leadership still matter as the industry moves forward.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠s by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements episodes throughout the season.

Season finale: Leading security in a brave new world.

In this CISOP episode of CSO Perspectives, Host Kim Jones sits down with John Funge, venture capitalist at DataTribe, to explore how investors view the cybersecurity landscape. Kim reflects on the tension between innovation, profit motives, and the real needs of security practitioners—raising questions about whether the industry prioritizes mitigation over true solutions. John offers a candid look inside the VC decision-making process, breaking down how teams, market fit, and long-term defensibility shape investment choices. Together, they examine how founders, investors, and CISOs can better align to drive meaningful, effective security innovation.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

Tech Investment Strategies and Overview

In this episode, host Kim Jones tacks a topic that is rapidly moving from theoretical to operational reality: quantum computing. While classical computing will remain the backbone of our systems for years to come, quantum technologies are advancing fast enough that CISOs must begin preparing today. Kim explores what quantum computing really means, why it matters for cybersecurity, and how leaders should begin planning for its inevitable impact. To help demystify the subject, Kim is joined by longtime colleague and cybersecurity practitioner Michael Sottile—now the CSO of a quantum computing firm—who brings decades of hands-on experience across industries and a front-row seat to quantum's evolution.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

Quantum

In this episode, host Kim Jones examines the rapid rise of enterprise AI and the tension between innovation and protection, sharing an RSA anecdote that highlights both excitement and concern. He outlines the benefits organizations hope to gain from AI while calling out often-overlooked risks like data quality, governance, and accountability. Kim is joined by technologist Tony Gauda to discuss why AI represents a fundamental shift in how systems and decisions are designed. Together, they explore AI-driven operations, cultural barriers to experimentation, and how CISOs can adopt AI responsibly without compromising security.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

AI and cyber practicum

In this episode, Kim Jones sits down with Eric Nagel, a former CISO with a rare blend of engineering, legal, and patent expertise, to unpack what responsible AI really looks like inside a modern enterprise. Eric breaks down the difference between traditional machine learning and generative AI, why nondeterministic outputs can be both powerful and risky, and how issues like bias, hallucinations, and data leakage demand new safeguards—including AI firewalls. 

He also discusses what smaller organizations can do to manage AI risk, how tools like code-generation models change expectations for developers, and the evolving regulatory landscape shaping how companies must deploy AI responsibly.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

AI's impact on business

In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the conversations he has had so far. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, diving into how new technologies are impacting longstanding challenges, both from a security standpoint and from an attacker's view. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come.

A midseason takeaway.

Managing identity has been an evolving challenge as networks have only continued to grow and become more sophisticated. In this current landscape, these challenges have only become further exacerbated with new emerging technologies. 

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Richard Bird from Singular AI to discuss this evolving paradigm. Throughout this conversation, Kim and Richard tackle how managing identity has evolved and how security leaders can get ahead of AI to better secure their systems and networks.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

Fraud and Identity

Fraud has always been a consistent challenge. As the world has continued to become increasingly interconnected and as new technologies have become widely available, threat actors have continued to evolve their tactics. 

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Mel Lanning from the Better Business Bureau to discuss fraud and how it has been evolving in recent years. From exploiting cryptocurrencies to utilizing emerging technologies, Kim and Mel look into how threat actors are changing and refining tactics in the current threat landscape.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

The changing face of fraud.

When discussing privacy risks, many often look to implementing strong encryption, secure data storage practices, and data sanitization processes to help ensure sensitive information remains protected. Though these practices are good and should be prioritized, many often miss other key areas that need just as much focus. As the internet of things has only continued to grow larger and larger, so has the risk these devices inherently create as they collect and store more information than many would instinctively assume.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Merry Marwig, the Vice President of Global Communications & Advocacy at Privacy4Cars, to explore how privacy risks are in places many do not think to look. Together, Merry and Kim discuss why security leaders need to rethink how they approach privacy and consider how the devices we use every day could inadvertently expose our sensitive information.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

Privacy needs where you least expect it

Privacy is one of the most universally valued rights. Yet, despite its importance, data breaches exposing millions of people's sensitive information have become routine. Many have come to assume that their personal data has already been, or inevitably will be, compromised. Despite this reality, prioritizing privacy is more important than ever. 

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Kristy Westphal, the Global Security Director of Spirent Communications, to explore data privacy's impacts on cybersecurity efforts. Together, Kristy and Kim discuss why privacy cannot be an afterthought but rather must be something actively addressed through proactive security efforts, shifting security culture mindsets, and staying ahead of rapidly changing technologies.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

The impact of data privacy on cyber.

Rick explains the network defender evolution from defense-in-depth in the 1990s, to intrusion kill chains in 2010, to too many security tools and SOAR in 2015, and finally to devsecops somewhere in our future. 
Resources:

“Cybersecurity First Principles: DevSecOps.” by Rick Howard, CSO Perspectives, The CyberWire, 8 June 2020.

“FAQ,” RSA Conference, 2020.

"Intelligence-Driven Computer Network Defense Informed by Analysis of Adversary Campaigns and Intrusion Kill Chains,” by Eric Hutchins, Michael Cloppert, Rohan Amin, Lockheed Martin Corporation, 2010, last visited 30 April 2020. 

“Malware? Cyber-crime? Call the ICOPs!” by Jon Oltsik, CSO, Cybersecurity Snippets, 22 June 2015.

“Market Guide for Security Orchestration, Automation and Response Solutions,” by Gartner, ID G00727304, 21 September 2020. 

“MITRE ATT&CK,” by Mitre.

“The Cybersecurity Canon: The Phoenix Project: A Novel About IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business Win,” book review by Rick Howard, Palo Alto Networks, 21 October 2016.

“The Cyber Kill Chain is making us dumber: A Rebuttal,” by Rick Howard, LinkedIn, 29 July 2017.

“The Evolution of SOAR Platforms,” by Stan Engelbrecht, SecurityWeek, 27 July 2018.

“What is SOAR (Security Orchestration, Automation, and Response)?” by Kevin Casey, The Enterprisers Project, 30 October 2020.

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