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Join Myf Warhurst and Zan Rowe as they debrief on the biggest conversations of the week about music, art, life and stuff.

Bang On brings together two of Australia’s most respected and most loved music journalists and presenters – who are also great friends, with your one stop shop for all the conversations you need to be across this week (but just don’t have the time to read a think-piece about).

Bang On

It's our last episode for a while, and we're sliving with unhinged energy. We'll wrap the big events of the week and year - yep, we're winding up with our big "Year in Review". Get ready to be reminded of all the cooked and wonderful things that happened in 2024. From the Willy Wonka Experience to Baz Lurhmann's unfiltered street chat, the powerful spectacle of the MONA Ladies Lounge case to Troye Sivan's bottomless bowl. Relive it all with us.

As we step back from hot takes and embrace a bit of "me time", we asked you what you're making time for in 2025, and we'll share some of our favourite messages. And we wouldn't leave you without some juicy bang ons! A couple of wonderful watches, and a book that might just help you switch off as well.

Bang On wouldn't be possible without an array of Bang Babes, Bang Boys, and one Bang Man; some brilliant producer brains. Many thanks to Kyran Nicholson, James Findlay, Cassie Walker, Corynne Tait, Caitlin Nienaber, Gabrielle Burke, Liza Perkovic, and Ryan Egan.

Bang Fam, we wouldn't exist without your support, feedback, love, and community. Thank you for listening to Bang On over the past (almost) 8 years. Thank you for your emails, DMs, and crop dusting of "Bang Fam" out in the wild. We are so grateful, and so emo about you. We love you heaps! Thank you for everything. x

Warning: This episode contains strong language.

The Comedian for sale: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-18/how-a-viral-duct-taped-banana-came-to-be-worth-1-million/104614148

Beyoncé halftime show: https://variety.com/2024/music/news/beyonce-nfl-halftime-show-netflix-christmas-game-1236212814/

The Last Showgirl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZDs_lLGrTU

The viral "age gap" article: https://www.thecut.com/article/age-gap-relationships-marriage-younger-women-older-man.html#comments

Ideal film running time: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/apr/29/ideal-movie-running-time-is-92-minutes-poll-claims

Willy Wonka Experience: https://www.thecut.com/article/willy-wonka-experience-glasgow-fyre-fest.html

MONA Ladies Lounge: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-27/mona-ladies-lounge-decision-tascat-supreme-court-decision/104403720

Baz on the streets: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-31/baz-luhrmann-tiktok-god-worthy/103920448

Troye's bottomless bowl: https://www.buzzfeed.com/mychalthompson/troye-sivan-bottomless-bowl-reactions

Moo Deng: https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/moo-deng-livestream/

Pesto: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3w4nld5e3o

Ballarat homework: https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81764579

Trace podcast on Greg Lynn: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/abc-news-daily/the-trial-of-campsite-murderer-greg-lynn/104026272

Martha: https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81479059

How to Do Nothing: https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/how-do-nothing

Somebody Somewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ompmd8tGRh0

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://comedy.com.au/tour/bang-on-live-with-myf-warhurst-zan-rowe/

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri and Awabakal peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Myf and Zan go out with a bang

Fill your cup with our annual reccos from the Bang Fam. Yep, the answering machine is choccas and we're ready to dive into some of the best stuff you've been reading, looking at, and listening to.

Plus we check in with some beloved members of the Bang Fam for a catch up. You'll hear from the saltiest Bang Fammer Jennine, as well as James who banged back in a van the last time we spoke (and went on to find true love). And we'll check in with wonderful Suzie in London, seizing life for everything it's got.

We'll wrap the week that was too, and maybe get a bit emo from some of the messages you've sent. One more episode to go after this one, before we Bang Off for a bit. Join us for a fun one in your feed next week, and one last Bang On Live in Ballarat that Saturday. It's gonna be one for the ages.

Beyonce dominates Grammys: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-09/grammy-awards-nominees-beyonce-taylor-swift-2025/104580528

Megan Fox: https://www.elle.com.au/culture/celebrity/megan-fox-pregnant-machine-gun-kelly/

Bridget Jones 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAcAgULwYY&ab_channel=Peacock

The Traitors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3rqVPKOKfQ&ab_channel=Peacock

Big Boys: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/big-boys

‘Black Witness’ by Amy McQuire: https://www.uqp.com.au/books/black-witness

‘Before the Coffee Gets Cold’ by Toshikazu Kawaguchi: https://www.panmacmillan.com/blogs/literary/before-the-coffee-gets-cold-guide

Doc: https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/tv-series/doc

Josh Neille on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshneille11/

‘West With Giraffes’ by Lynda Rutledge: https://www.lyndarutledge.com/disc.htm

‘Straight Up’ by Ruby Tui: https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Ruby-Tui-Straight-Up-9781991006141/

Tough Guy Book Club: https://www.toughguybookclub.com/

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://comedy.com.au/tour/bang-on-live-with-myf-warhurst-zan-rowe/

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

It's time to Bang Back with our beloved Bang Fam

Breaking bang, we've got a little life update for our beloved Bang Fam. The only thing certain in life is change, and there are some changes happening with Bang On. But we've got some fun planned too. We'll explain it all here. Bang Fam 4 Eva. x

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://comedy.com.au/tour/bang-on-live-with-myf-warhurst-zan-rowe/

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Myf and Zan have big news for the Bang Fam

We're a US election free zone in this week's episode, so if you want a brain bath and a some silly duffa chat we are - as always - here if you need.

And it's a huge week cos we think Beyoncé is Bang Fam?! Is she sending us messages via her Beylloween posts? Closer to home, an obituary has nailed it, and a questionable survey has us chatting interior design. Live, Laugh, Love.

Moschino have backed up their baguette bag with a celery clutch and all we can say is TAKE OUR MONEY. And we're celebrating the life and legacy of the late great Quincy Jones.

Vegemite museum: https://cyrilcallisterfoundation.org/museum/

Beywatch: https://www.instagram.com/beyonce/p/DB-14k-RTqu/?img_index=8

Jennifer Ann Kelly obit: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/son-mother-obituary-death-tribute-b2642225.html

Outdated home decor: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14038839/home-decor-icks-gen-z.html

Letting the Gen Z colleague write the marketing script: https://www.tiktok.com/@ayrshireblinds/video/7415270054863932705?lang=en

Red flags in dating: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/05/date-space-astronauts-toilet-paper-olivia-rodrigo-elon-musk-jeff-bezos

Celery clutch: https://www.delicious.com.au/entertaining/style-trends/article/moschino-fashion-label-introduces-bread-celery-shaped-handbags/y8kea5yi?r=entertaining

Rivals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSQhpZX6PBk

Quincy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT7gn6nhsAc

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://comedy.com.au/tour/bang-on-live-with-myf-warhurst-zan-rowe/

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal, Turrbal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Beyoncé is Bang Fam and we have proof

It's Halloween and we're ghoulishly making our way through the week that was. Myf's been in the presence of The Mescal, while Zan has been singing Khe Sanh with her dad. Janelle Monae is ET and we're patiently awaiting what Heidi Klum will unveil.

One of the most viral videos of the week has us chatting too; Saoirse Ronan is all of us in that moment on Graham Norton's couch, trying to explain the realities women face to a bunch of nice guys. Mama Tina has a memoir, The Bear is The Boss, and Lily Allen is making more coin from her feet than her music. We'll unpack it all.

Myf's brought in some truly heinous farshun for the holiday, and we're banging on about a great Aussie film and an excellent longread on Netflix.

Janelle Monae as ET: https://ew.com/janelle-monae-halloween-costume-et-jennifer-hudson-show-8737177

Saoirse Ronan: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/29/chatshow-saoirse-ronan-graham-norton-women

Tina Knowles book: https://tinaknowlesbook.com/

Lily Allen: https://x.com/lilyallen/status/1849803776753893639

Jeremy Allen White as Springsteen: https://pitchfork.com/news/jeremy-allen-white-is-bruce-springsteen-in-first-look-at-new-deliver-me-from-nowhere-biopic/

Reptile sneaker: https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/balenciaga-reptile-sneaker/

Ballarat homework - Hot Frosty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmi794YO-0w

Audrey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMNlAC6Gjw

How Everyone Got Lost in Netflix's Endless Library: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/magazine/netflix-library-viewer-numbers.html

Podcast version: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/podcasts/the-daily/netflix-library.html?smid=url-share

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://comedy.com.au/tour/bang-on-live-with-myf-warhurst-zan-rowe/

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

When Saoirse Ronan piped up we all heard it

It's a real "because the internet" kinda week, and we're unpacking North West's $20k lol gift for her mum, Meryl and Martin's possible hard launch (thanks Steve), and the plight of Mickey the Cockatoo.

A band called Lawrence are drawing attention on TikTok for their singer's huge wail, some people love it some people hate it, everyone is posting their reacs to it. Because the internet.

Bieber's love of slippers as outdoors wear has infiltrated high farshun and we are here for cosy o'clock. And we're banging on about new series Rivals and Dan Levy's directorial debut Good Grief.

North West necklace for KK: https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/north-west-kim-kardashian-birthday-necklace/

Viral Lawrence song: https://thetab.com/uk/2024/10/16/this-chaotic-viral-song-is-dividing-tiktok-and-people-are-beefing-over-if-its-great-or-terrible-392636

Meryl and Martin: https://www.vulture.com/article/did-steve-martin-confirm-martin-short-meryl-streep-relationship.html

Beef S02: https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/beef-season-2-cast-oscar-isaac-carey-mulligan-charles-melton-cailee-spaeny-1236186757/

Mickey the Cockie: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/23/mickey-the-cockatoo-macarthur-square-coles-birds-indoors

FARSHUN slippers: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/15/t-magazine/slippers-the-row-justin-bieber.html

RIVALS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSQhpZX6PBk

Good Grief: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR_MPXTaEZw

Andrew Garfield on grief: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVlXbiP4x2E

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://comedy.com.au/tour/bang-on-live-with-myf-warhurst-zan-rowe/

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Why does everyone hate Lawrence?

Myf and Zan are back to bring some light into your week, and Polly Jean Harvey is gonna help. Did you hear that Myf has the Prime Minister on her Spicks and Specks team this weekend too? She'll give you all the goss.

Meanwhile Zan is punishing anyone who'll listen to watch The English Teacher - while also realising it's creator is also TJ Mack. It's a classic Gen X discovery of TikTok virality, a year too late.

And a piece on "treat culture" and why giving yourself a fancy smoothie or mani/pedi is the new vacation, has us intrigued. If internet chat is too much this week, look up. It's Aussie Bird Count week and a reminder to get your head outta your phone.

We're banging on about the Menendez Brothers series on Netflix 'Monsters', and a fascinating exploration into groupthink with the podcast Hysterical.

Liam Payne: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-17/liam-payne-death-one-direction/104483622

PJ Harvey tour: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/doublej/music-reads/music-news/pj-harvey-announces-2025-australian-tour-dates-tickets/104473330

Spicks and Specks: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/spicks-and-specks

Countdown 50: https://www.abc.net.au/about/media-centre/press-releases/celebrating-countdown-50-years-on-abc/104483236

Brian Jordan Alvarez: https://www.instagram.com/brianjordanalvarez/?hl=en

TJ Mack: https://www.tiktok.com/@brianjordanalvarez/video/7277315001944247594?lang=en

The English Teacher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfvKrsaZrEA

Disclaimer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so6XoqZgbVM

Treat culture: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/16/we-live-in-a-treat-culture-and-gen-z-is-splurging-on-snacks

Bird Count: https://aussiebirdcount.org.au/

Monsters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcXg28iAiLM

Hysterical podcast: https://wondery.com/shows/hysterical/

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Zan just realised The English Teacher is TJ Mack

Breaking FARSHUN news; the Costume Institute has announced its 2025 exhibition which means we have our Met Gala theme and ooh boy are we pumped. In adjacent gallery news, the long held question "is this art?" has not been asked by a Dutch gallery worker. Whoopsies.

Fat Bear Week has crowned its incumbent champion (we luv u Grazer), and a Qantas in-flight entertainment fail has us remembering the olden days of forced viewing.

It's shaping up to be a big summer of music movies too, with Paul Kelly, Robbie Williams, Bob Dylan, and Pharrell all having their stories told in different ways. And we're banging on about a heartbreaking film you shouldn't watch on a plane, and the latest season of Slow Horses.

Oh, and if you see this in time, you can still vote for Bang On in the listeners' choice at the Australian Podcast Awards: https://www.australianpodcastawards.com/voting

Met Gala theme announced: https://www.vogue.com/article/superfine-tailoring-black-style-costume-institute-spring-2025-exhibition

Gallery worker bins art: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/08/beer-can-artwork-lam-museum-thrown-out-all-the-good-times-we-spent-together

Fat Bear Week: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-09/fat-bear-week-2024-winner-128-grazer/104448686

Qantas in flight fail: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/business/qantas-airlines-australia-r-rated-movie.html

How to Make Gravy movie: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-09/how-to-make-gravy-movie-trailer-paul-kelly-hugo-weaving-binge/104448648

A Complete Unknown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73rHRm5uTQ0&ab_channel=IGN

Better Man: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-03/robbie-williams-biopic-better-man-cgi-monkey-teaser-trailer/104427364

Piece by Piece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDlnwQCkiSA&ab_channel=UniversalPicturesAustralia

Oasis tour dates: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-08/oasis-australia-tour-2025-reunion-dates-tickets/104440066

LDR married: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/sep/27/lana-del-rey-married-jeremy-dufrene

All Of Us Strangers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O97iSjvqBlY&ab_channel=SearchlightPictures

Slow Horses S04: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo27sE2fdvs&ab_channel=AppleTV

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

The Met Gala theme is here and we're counting down to May 2025

Ok how many people googled "The Joker" song after seeing Gaga sing it this week? Myf and Zan are here to unpack the week that was, and investigate whether Lady Gaga is a hornbag for Kath & Kim's theme song.

The courtroom saga of the MONA Ladies Lounge is the gift that keeps giving, and we debrief on the artist's win. And a great read in the New Yorker unpacks the trends, algorithms, and servitude we offer up to Instagram in our quest to be seen.

Bit of coin chat this week too, and we've been nominated for an award! Get behind us, Bang Fam! And we're banging on about the new 90's Vogue doco, and chef Ben Shewry's new memoir Uses for Obsession.

Take 5 on ABC iview: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/take-5-with-zan-rowe

Vote for Bang On in the Australian Podcast Awards: https://www.australianpodcastawards.com/voting

Bang On Live in Ballarat: https://hermaj.com/events/bang-on/

MONA Ladies Lounge appeal: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-27/mona-ladies-lounge-decision-tascat-supreme-court-decision/104403720

Lady Gaga singing The Joker: https://www.buzzfeed.com/angelinebarion/kath-and-kim-the-joker-theme-song

The Desperation of the Instagram Photo Dump: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/the-desperation-of-the-instagram-photo-dump

In Vogue: The 90s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PShARkr_uRU

Uses For Obsession: https://www.murdochbooks.com/browse/book/Ben-Shewry-Uses-for-Obsession-9781922616845

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Lady Gaga is a closet Kath & Kim fan

It's another big week but all good, Myf and Zan are here to make sense of it all for you. And oh boy, the internet has delivered.

In Detroit, a Bridgerton themed "experience" is drawing comparisons to the Wonka debacle early 2024 (and obvs we are all in). Speaking of period drama, Wuthering Heights is getting another remake, but fans aren't too happy about the casting of Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi.

Live streams are going off for a Thai zoo and we have Moo Deng to thank. The baby hippopotamus is still at her adorable, CBF best (ahead of her deadly, will kill anything that crosses her era), and we can't look away. But Pesto is coming in hot, a cuddly big boi of a penguin closer to home.

We're unzipping Double J's "Filthy Fifty" to see if the list of the best f**king songs correlates to our own soundtrack, and banging on about new TV comedy The English Teacher, and French TV show La Maison.

This episode contains strong language.

Kylie Minogue tour: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-19/kylie-minogue-2025-australian-tour-dates-new-album-tension-ii/104373652

Take 5: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/take-5-with-zan-rowe

Detroit Bridgerton Party: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-25/bridgerton-ball-detroit-disappointment/104393770

Wuthering Heights: https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/wuthering-heights-javob-elordi-margot-robbie-cast/

Moo Deng: https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/moo-deng-livestream/

Pesto: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3w4nld5e3o

Filthy Fifty: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/doublej/music-reads/features/filthy-fifty-50-great-sex-songs/104371738

La Maison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnJ_HEM1CB4

The English Teacher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfvKrsaZrEA&ab_channel=FXNetworks

Bang On Merch Store: https://sound-merch.com.au/collections/bang-on-live

Bang Back to us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is an ABC podcast, produced by Double J. It is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal and Wurundjeri peoples. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

Pesto and Moo Deng are blowing up the internet

Kanye’s long awaited new album is finally out, and launched with his most provocative live streaming event so far. 

What does DONDA say about him as an artist, and the art he’s communicating to the world? 

Meanwhile, a longread on pop producer Dr Luke is a thorough case study on how the music industry is broken, and what we need to do to fix it. But also a discussion on how we as fans make ethical choices about the music we enjoy. 

And while we’re sinking our teeth into some heavy stuff, never fear, we’ve got good news stories on pandemic dating and a great watch on beautiful ballet, too.

Show notes:

The Independent’s review of DONDA: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/kanye-west-review-donda-marilyn-manson-b1911087.html

How Do You Solve a Problem Like Dr Luke? https://junkee.com/longform/dr-luke-boycott-cancellation

Pandemic Dating: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/01/my-radical-love-experiment-shows-there-is-light-at-the-end-of-pandemic-dating-and-it-isnt-a-laptop-screen

Blak, Black, Blackfulla: https://www.smh.com.au/national/blak-black-blackfulla-language-is-important-but-it-can-be-tricky-20210826-p58lzg.html

Nureyev: https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81117554

Email us: bangon.podcast@abc.net.au

Bang On is recorded on the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders past and present. We acknowledge Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Australians and Traditional Custodians of the land where we live, work, and learn.

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